The Kukuuri in winter

Well, I spend a bit of time wandering through the Criminal Code provisions on-line a while back, to try and figure this out.

Some things are specifically prohibited: no double-edged knives, or push daggers, or brass knuckles, or shuriken, or nunchuks. But there's no length limit on a knife for daily carry, so long as it's not concealed. Technically, a pocketknife (hidden in your pocket) is illegal, while a 22" chitlangi (worn openly on your belt) is OK. It comes down to an officer's discretion.

And the officer's discretion usually has to do with the intended or imminent USE of the knife - what are you likely to be doing with it? No officer is going to trouble me if I'm limbing a tree in my yard, or splitting kindling, or clearing brush on a jobsite. I won't get troubled for having it with me as I walk out into the back 40 of a farm, or on a wilderness camping trip - places where the khuk would have a legitimate "tool" use. But carry a stout blade into a bar or subway, or have it on your belt while standing in dark doorways in a tough part of town ... and it becomes a "deadly weapon." Same is true of crowbars, axes, chains, baseball bats, or hunks of 2X4. You'd not be charged for carrying a too-long blade, but for carrying a deadly weapon.

Canada's laws are intended to discourage carrying weapons, while allowing carrying tools. So the more obviously tool-like the knife is - which means both the type of knife and the likelihood of tool-use wherever it is that you're carrying it - the less trouble you'll have.
 
Sir discretion is nice and I would like it if our peace officers used more . that having been said to enforce the law takes a certain kind of person . I would say that even handedness would be the best you could hope for from my local police force and indeed from most of the peace officers I,ve seen , talked with , overheard discussing in groups and seen training . In the many years since the no carry without legitimate, immediate use, law came out I have not seen a dozen knives being carried . Certainly some, myself included, have gone underground and carry a pocket knife .(lawbreaker that I am) For the most part Canada has chosen to interpet the law differently than you . In my case all it would take is one weapons charge and all my firearms permits could be taken away . Relying upon the discretion of a police officer is like relying upon a lottery for your paycheck .
 
Astrodada said:
How the hell do you slip a 22" GRS under your jacket without being noticable ??? :confused:

Or maybe you think it's not noticable. Did you notice anything different from the other people walking on the street ? Did they purposely walk around you ?

Yeah maybe they were thinking........That guy overthere has a large khuk under his jacket, dun mess with him.........

:D
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khuks are nice and flat, and under a bulky winter jacket, noone's going to notice it. Hell, I keep a small umbrella in my breast pocket without it getting in the way - keeps the freezing rain away.

edit: starting a new thread to demonstrate this.
 
Well, I hear you Kevin. And I think we're saying something close to the same thing. I don't wear a fixed blade knife, let alone a khuk, when I go to the mall or the grocery store. But in such situations, there's really no need - no "legitimate use." I doubt either of us would go in carrying a splitting maul either. :D

I wear a Sarge or a Mora without a second thought if I go for a hike, nor have I had any quizzical looks. And the farmer parents of an old girlfriend of mine each carry a fixed blade daily - and don't stop to take it off if they have to pick up something at the Co-op store or get a coffee at Tim's. It's just a tool ...

Maybe I've just been lucky - but I think really, I've simply stayed within the intent of the law. Where I live I feel no need to carry a knife as a weapon to deter feral humans (though arguably that's also a legitimate "tool" use!) - so I'll only carry what I need for a particular task. If a chopping task isn't on the afternoon's agenda, I don't strap on a khuk ... but then again, if I'm not clearing the driveway, I don't carry 'round a snow shovel either. ;)

If there is a "legitimate use," I feel no more (or less) worry about carrying a khuk than carrying a chainsaw.
 
I respect that you took what I said in the way it was meant . Individual freedoms can become a charged issue . I,m from Quebec and so might be in a unique situation as regards to Canadian law . It is a charged issue with me cause it is just one more nail in the coffin of individual freedom to assuage society as a whole . I am an electrician/alarm technician and a general fixer up kinda guy . Carrying a knife to me is a necessity . I agree with you in that your description of the situation is more accurate than mine . I have dealt with enough peace officers who have had a bad day or a bad year that would suggest that I lean towards the side of caution. Situations can be unique . It is hard for me to deal with it on a general basis .
Keep em sharp.
 
Well, sure there are lots of officers out there having bad days ... and in Quebec, could easily be that the police take a tougher line. The biker gang war of a few years back would have quite possibly brought that about.

I enjoy your posts Kevin - have a grand day.

t.
 
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