The Latest Bagwell Masterpiece

Feel and balance being the key, hands on can make or break one's true feelings about a knife. We know Bill has feel and speed in hand down to a science, but we also know the difference a photo portrays. It is not the same 'feel'.

A simple photo doesn't tell us much in several aspects. This handle looks proportionally long to the blade, and maybe it is for a purpose. But, my bet is that a lot of that is the angle of the one photo presented.

Dimensions sure help to not muddle the medium.

BTW, I like the knife a lot.

- Joe
 
Kevin Jones said:
There's no posted rules or sense of entitlement around the sharing of general details along with a knife photo posted on a public forum, it's just a common courtesy to do so.
Obviously, those who have great interest and passion for custom knives are going to thirst for information when a photo is shared. If there's some secret or mysteriouss reason for not giving information then perhaps not posting the photo would be the prudent course of action.
Anyway, I was just curious, don't really care now.
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Kevin, I think that you did very well summing up
what most (actually almost) all of us think....

All the best,
David Darom (ddd)
 
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well, all I know is I got a pm informing me that Bill Bagwell does not appreciate the measurements for his knives to become common knowledge, from a forumite who is respected by all you guys and me as well. Thanks a lot for getting me in trouble buddy;):D

Personally, I really don't care one way or the other, but I didn't want to come off wrong with my post prodding for information because I didn't know better or was showing a sense of entitlement, which is why I changed it. I'm not advocating for anything here, just trying to explain where I'm coming from. I do agree with all those who state that providing measurements is not unreasonable if you're willing to post a picture of a knife that either you made or acquired. But, if there's a special case where that info is more or less proprietary, then I'd respect it.

For the record, it was MY sense of entitlement I was referring to, not anyone else'.

With all that being said, I would still like to know how close my guess is:)
 
I was the one who suggested privately to Lorien that Flamethrower may have been circumspect about posting dimensions in deference to Bill. At age 68, I’m sure Bill is thick skinned enough that he could care less about who posts what on dimensions, as Joe says. However, in private conversation Bill makes clear he is scornful of those who try to copy his blades without knowing why he does what he does, and after spending a lifetime developing his knowledge and techniques that’s not hard to understand. My presumption in PMing Lorien was that Flamethrower may have been sensitive to Bill’s aversion to those who use spec’s to try and copy his blades, and so may have been trying to avoid taking part in that—purely my speculation.

I think some good points have been made here, but I have a problem with the end result of Kevin’s assertion that people not post pictures without support information. Although clearly more information is always welcome, if we suggest to knife owners that they not post pictures unless they’re willing to disclose additional information, we may unwittingly limit what we get to see here. That would not be good, IMHO.
 
Well, my friends, back off an look at yourselves. This was about as big a case of making Mt. Everest out of a mole hill that I've seen lately. Lorien, you have no particular need to explain yourself. You asked a simple and natural question, and that's that. Flamethrower chose not to answer and that's that as well. He can take his dimensions and the knife and put them both where the sun don't shine for all I care, because i can get all that type information I want direct from Bill, as could each of you should the importance rise to that level. Be good to one another and play nice.

Paul
 
sheathmaker said:
Well, my friends, back off an look at yourselves. This was about as big a case of making Mt. Everest out of a mole hill that I've seen lately. Lorien, you have no particular need to explain yourself. You asked a simple and natural question, and that's that. Flamethrower chose not to answer and that's that as well. He can take his dimensions and the knife and put them both where the sun don't shine for all I care, because i can get all that type information I want direct from Bill, as could each of you should the importance rise to that level. Be good to one another and play nice.

Paul
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Paul, I took your advice as I usually do, stepped back and looked and I don't believe anyone has said or made any comments out of line here. And I see no Mt. Everest, just a few long term members asking for information that is normally customary and courteously provided when a knife photo is posted.
 
Hi guys sorry I was 40 ft in the air sweeping a chimney

Will and Lorien no worries

Folks don't make an issue out of nothing please

Bill makes his blades and handles according to his customers dimensions every blade and handle is made specifically to match his customers hand size etc.

Trust me when I say every one is different

Bill does not care about casual mention of blade length and handle length he just would prefer that exact measurements like exact distel taper and such are not thrown out there

He has worked very hard in a life long career to achieve his reputation for the feel of his blades and I can tell you he has achieved itnnothing feels quite like a Bagwell

I just hung up the phone with him and Flame thrower he does not care if you mention the length of the blade all I can say is that it's longer than any of u guessed

It is not my knife so I will not presume to answer the question that was posed to the op

The angle of the pic is making the handle look longer than it is Bill does not even remember how long the handle is

He tinkers with them till they feel right

Unlike most makers that say well the blade is this long so the handle should be this long Bill does not do it that way everything is about feel and what a customer has requested


Take it easy boys

Flame thrower enjoy your new knife and sorry to impose on your thread but Bill is a good friend and I don't want this to be a negative thread about him

Gotta go back to work everyone have a nice day

Flamethrower do me a favor and tell them how long it is I promise Bill won't get mad :)
 
Wow, sorry for all the drama. I just wanted to put up a picture of a new toy, for the enjoyment of those that follow Mr. Bagwell's work. I didn't realize that entailed revealing greater detail, on the Internet, to strangers. I had some misgivings in posting a picture at all, just for privacy reasons.
 
Flamethrower said:
I didn't realize that entailed revealing greater detail, on the Internet, to strangers. I had some misgivings in posting a picture at all, just for privacy reasons.
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I do not understand why you think posting a knife pic(or its dementions) has a anything to do with "privacy", or how it could affect your privacy. Its not like you just put your CC number up:p

But, it is your knife, and your thread, and I thank you for taking the time to post the pic. Its a great looking knife :thumbup:
 
Hey Joe. I was typing while you were putting up your post.

Blade is 11 inches, handle is six.

Again, sorry for getting everybody amped up.
 
Ken44 said:
I do not understand why you think posting a knife pic(or its dementions) has a anything to do with "privacy", or how it could affect your privacy. Its not like you just put your CC number up:p

But, it is your knife, and your thread, and I thank you for taking the time to post the pic. Its a great looking knife :thumbup:
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Well, maybe privacy isn't the right word. I have some Internet-phobia, that I am working to overcome. I'm sure the fine folks that inquired about the knife in this thread are totally trust worthy. But they aren't the only people reading this information. It's really not that big a deal and I was really surprised by all the negativity that has developed in the time I was away from the computer. I mean, master sheath-maker Paul Long, who I have never met or conversed with, told me to stick my knife where the sun doesn't shine. What's that all about?

Oh well.
 
Flamethrower

Please do not take pauls comment as a negative he did not mean it in the wayyou took it he was actually sticking up for u.

Great knife. Just be excited and I hope u will post more

Welcome to the custom forum and no worries
 
Flamethrower said:
Hey Joe. I was typing while you were putting up your post.

Blade is 11 inches, handle is six.

Again, sorry for getting everybody amped up.
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Those big handles is the reason I like Bill's work so much. It allows for you to grip well behind the guard. Most other bowies are running around 5"- 5 1/4" which really cramps my thumb in saber grip.
 
Could anyone enlighten me as to whether or not Mr. Bagwell is an ABS member, and if so, where he rates on the Master, Journeyman, Apprentice, "ABS Smith Rating Scale" ?

Mr. Flamethrower, Thanks for taking the time to share your new knife with us here on BladeForums Custom & Handmade Knives section :thumbup:




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Bill is a founding member of the ABS

He was the second man to hold a master smith stamp I believe about 6 months after Moran

He has chosen to not use his stamp and has no current ties with the ABS
 
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actually Joe is kinda correct. Bill was the second man to recieve his stamp it was about 30 seconds after Bill Moran and just before don hastings. The first stamps where presented to the makers in the order of which they made damascus. If memory serves correctly they were presented at the New York show by Debra Harry of "blondie" fame.
 
JParanee said:
Bill is a founding member of the ABS

He was the second man to hold a master smith stamp I believe about 6 months after Moran

He has chosen to not use his stamp and has no current ties with the ABS
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I thought he had MS status, but checking the ABS site, couldn't find reference to the fact :confused:

Thank you for clearing that up Mr. Paranee. In fact, thanks a lot :thumbup:



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