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Erik Fritz said:
actually Joe is kinda correct. Bill was the second man to recieve his stamp it was about 30 seconds after Bill Moran and just before don hastings. The first stamps where presented to the makers in the order of which they made damascus. If memory serves correctly they were presented at the New York show by Debra Harry of "blondie" fame.
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Thanks Eric :thumbup:

That is an interesting piece of history :)

I'm trying to picture Bill, Bill & Don receiving their presentations from Blondie. For some reason, that picture is a bit fuzzy ;)
But hey, if Ms. Harry is a fan of Custom and Handmade Knives, GREAT !! :thumbup:



:)
 
Erics right On the presentation on the stamps I was talking about the time frame on making Damascus I hope that is correct :)

Thanks eric.
 
Ahhhhh, history.

I was 19 years old, and attending my first custom knife show, the NYCKS at the Roosevelt Hotel....and there she was, simply the BEST looking woman I have EVER seen at a knife show, Ms. Deborah Harry......I didn't know crap about knives at the time, except that I loved them, but I knew music....and it was she.

As far as knives go, it was not the passion of Ms. Harry, it was her boyfriend and fellow bandmate, Chris Stein, not sure of the chronological order of that. He was stricken with pemphigus, a rare autoimmune skin condition, and looked horrible at the time, but has fully recovered.

Parallel Lines remains one of the greatest New Wave albums ever produced, imo.....check out David Cronenberg's Videodrome for an eyefull of the amazing Ms. Harry in her prime!

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson




David Wesner said:
Thanks Eric :thumbup:

That is an interesting piece of history :)

I'm trying to picture Bill, Bill & Don receiving their presentations from Blondie. For some reason, that picture is a bit fuzzy ;)
But hey, if Ms. Harry is a fan of Custom and Handmade Knives, GREAT !! :thumbup:



:)
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Why does he not want the measurements of his knives given out? This is in contrast to most other makers, some of whom give out their patterns.
 
Will York said:
Bill makes clear he is scornful of those who try to copy his blades without knowing why he does what he does, and after spending a lifetime developing his knowledge and techniques that’s not hard to understand.
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read up, yo!
 
Thanks Lorien. Doesn't seem rational, but that's probably my difficulty.
 
brownshoe said:
Thanks Lorien. Doesn't seem rational, but that's probably my difficulty.
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I think he wants to protect his techniques, his "intellectual property".

I would suggest that makers that are too free with details of their work might one day come to regret it.

And for what its worth, Mr. Bagwell had no problem with me giving the general dimensions of the knife he made for me. I did not want to delve into the subject and inadvertantly reveal details that he would deem proprietary. Being new to the forums, I was unaware that this was a breach of etiquette. Rest assured, I have been "straightened out" on the subject.

Finally, let me say that after getting to know this knife for a few days, I am very impressed. I think its the sharpest knife I have ever seen. It fits me like a glove and moves like a steel tornado. A very formidable weapon.
 
Flamethrower said:
I would suggest that makers that are too free with details of their work might one day come to regret it.
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I believe the flip side of that would be knifemakers who attribute much of their success to their sharing of ideas and helping other knifemakers over the years. I've aways been amazed at the generosity demonstrated by custom knifemakers in not just sharing their techniques but teaching them as well.
Many of the bigest names in knifemaking didn't gain their status just by making fine knives but by being respected, liked and being appriciated for their contributions. Jerry Fisk is just one example of MANY.

Hammer-ins for example, where one fine knifemaker after another bares all to anyone who wants to learn.

It's not just knifemakers either. Paul Long, for example, shares his techniques and it certainly hasn't put a damper on his success.
 
Kevin Jones said:
I believe the flip side of that would be knifemakers who attribute much of their success to their sharing of ideas and helping other knifemakers over the years. I've aways been amazed at the generosity demonstrated by custom knifemakers in not just sharing their techniques but teaching them as well.
Many of the bigest names in knifemaking didn't gain their status just by making fine knives but by being respected, liked and being appriciated for their contributions. Jerry Fisk is just one example of MANY.

Hammer-ins for example, where one fine knifemaker after another bares all to anyone who wants to learn.

It's not just knifemakers either. Paul Long, for example, shares his techniques and it certainly hasn't put a damper on his success.
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Mr. Jones:

Perhaps the line is between sharing with those of like mind and broadcasting to anyone with a computer. If I had spent a career developing a particular technique, I might not mind training others willing to learn and work hard to carve their own niche, (a la the Hammer-In) but I don't know that I would want bits of my work broadcast via the Internet. But that's me.

And I spent a fair bit of coin on the knife he made for me, not for it's collector value, its color, or its rarity, but for what it can do. I don't fully comprehend why it moves and works as it does, but I'd rather the recipe were not widely available.
 
Flamethrower said:
Mr. Jones:

Perhaps the line is between sharing with those of like mind and broadcasting to anyone with a computer. If I had spent a career developing a particular technique, I might not mind training others willing to learn and work hard to carve their own niche, (a la the Hammer-In) but I don't know that I would want bits of my work broadcast via the Internet. But that's me.

And I spent a fair bit of coin on the knife he made for me, not for it's collector value, its color, or its rarity, but for what it can do. I don't fully comprehend why it moves and works as it does, but I'd rather the recipe were not widely available.
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You certainly make a valid point. I'm just pointing out there's others who will see it differently.
 
Flamethrower said:
Mr. Jones:

Perhaps the line is between sharing with those of like mind and broadcasting to anyone with a computer. If I had spent a career developing a particular technique, I might not mind training others willing to learn and work hard to carve their own niche, (a la the Hammer-In) but I don't know that I would want bits of my work broadcast via the Internet. But that's me.

And I spent a fair bit of coin on the knife he made for me, not for it's collector value, its color, or its rarity, but for what it can do. I don't fully comprehend why it moves and works as it does, but I'd rather the recipe were not widely available.
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Bill has been nothing but open with his techniques with me. But on the other side we had developed a friendship before I even new he was a knifemaker.
 
Kevin Jones said:
I believe the flip side of that would be knifemakers who attribute much of their success to their sharing of ideas and helping other knifemakers over the years. I've aways been amazed at the generosity demonstrated by custom knifemakers in not just sharing their techniques but teaching them as well.
Many of the bigest names in knifemaking didn't gain their status just by making fine knives but by being respected, liked and being appriciated for their contributions. Jerry Fisk is just one example of MANY.

Hammer-ins for example, where one fine knifemaker after another bares all to anyone who wants to learn.

It's not just knifemakers either. Paul Long, for example, shares his techniques and it certainly hasn't put a damper on his success.
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After ruminating on this overnight, it dawned on me that Mr. Bagwell has been pretty forthcoming over the past several decades on what he likes to see in an edged weapon. He has authored a number of articles on the subject, compiled them into book form and appears in a dvd I have, forging a blade and discussing point geometry and carry methods. He has hardly been secretive regarding what he feels make a high-performance edged weapon. I think its really just an Internet thing.
 
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