The loss of a favorite and disappointment in a friend...

You're too sensitive (Just like me, I guess).

I have a friend who just doesn't understand how people like us feel about keeping nice things in nice condition (Doesn't seem too hard to understand, does it?). He actually makes it a point to take his $1000+ rifles/shotguns out into the field and put scratches on them as soon as he can. He doesn't do this to get over the dismay of the first scratch - He does it to impress upon his buddies that his guns are "working tools" that are designed to be used and not "babied". I once saw him (He made sure I was watching) carelessly set his beautiful new engraved SKB over/under 12 ga down on some rocks during a quail hunt. I just shook my head. Later he was bragging about his nice new scratches and asking me why my cheapo Remington 870 still looked so nice after so many years. I told him that my daddy taught me to respect and take care of my guns. Needless to say, he never uses any of my nicer stuff when we go out together.

Your friend came clean and made it right, so he might be a good friend to keep. I'd forgive him for the lie - He might have initially just been scared of what your reaction might have been had he told you the truth...
 
Vee3 said:
I have a friend who just doesn't understand how people like us feel about keeping nice things in nice condition (Doesn't seem too hard to understand, does it?). He actually makes it a point to take his $1000+ rifles/shotguns out into the field and put scratches on them as soon as he can. He doesn't do this to get over the dismay of the first scratch - He does it to impress upon his buddies that his guns are "working tools" that are designed to be used and not "babied". I once saw him (He made sure I was watching) carelessly set his beautiful new engraved SKB over/under 12 ga down on some rocks during a quail hunt. I just shook my head. Later he was bragging about his nice new scratches and asking me why my cheapo Remington 870 still looked so nice after so many years. I told him that my daddy taught me to respect and take care of my guns. Needless to say, he never uses any of my nicer stuff when we go out together.
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I guess I'm somewhere in the middle. I don't understand owning a tool that you're afraid to use as hard as you need to, but I certainly don't go around intentionally damaging them! I can somewhat understand scratching something to "get over the dismay of the first scratch", but it's not something that I would do.

I guess that's why the Spec Bump interested me more than the Ti Bumps. It's just a more practical knife that I'm not afraid to scratch up... The Ti Bumps sure are purty, though! If I won the lottery, I'd have one and I'd use it, too!
 
Your friend came clean and made it right, so he might be a good friend to keep. I'd forgive him for the lie - He might have initially just been scared of what your reaction might have been had he told you the truth...
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...yah........I can understand you being upset that he lied..even angry. But as you begin to let it go I would consider giving him another shot at being worthy of your trust. After all, that's what friends do...give each other second chances. It will be up to him after that ! He did fess up to the "deed" and reimburse you for the knife...that shows character.

-Best regards
 
Gramps said:
...yah........I can understand you being upset that he lied..even angry. But as you begin to let it go I would consider giving him another shot at being worthy of your trust. After all, that's what friends do...give each other second chances. It will be up to him after that ! He did fess up to the "deed" and reimburse you for the knife...that shows character.

-Best regards
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He came clean and offered to get you a new one. 'Nuff said. Get over it.

Keno
 
DaTrueDave said:
I guess I'm somewhere in the middle. I don't understand owning a tool that you're afraid to use as hard as you need to, but I certainly don't go around intentionally damaging them! I can somewhat understand scratching something to "get over the dismay of the first scratch", but it's not something that I would do.

I guess that's why the Spec Bump interested me more than the Ti Bumps. It's just a more practical knife that I'm not afraid to scratch up... The Ti Bumps sure are purty, though! If I won the lottery, I'd have one and I'd use it, too!
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I can see that. Maybe my view is the product of being the son of parents who came up during the Great Depression - They felt the need to make things last (And carried that sentiment long past the bad times).

I suppose I shouldn't be so careful with some things that I own, but I do like to keep some of my favorites in the best condition possible even if I use them a lot. There's a big difference between "honest wear" and abuse.
 
Vee3 said:
I can see that. Maybe my view is the product of being the son of parents who came up during the Great Depression - They felt the need to make things last (And carried that sentiment long past the bad times).

I suppose I shouldn't be so careful with some things that I own, but I do like to keep some of my favorites in the best condition possible even if I use them a lot. There's a big difference between "honest wear" and abuse.
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Well said ! :thumbup:
 
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Nakamura, maybe?

Or the green, as already suggested...

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I also learned my lesson the hard way, when I should have known better. One time I had just finished up making a miniature two blade congress folder. It was less than 1 1/4" long closed, and had beautiful natural stag scales, and two identical damascus wharncliffe blades (as per customer request) that tapered down to needle like points. I was about to ship it off to the customer, and was at work cleaning some of the gunk/filings out of the joints as the final task before mailing it. A co worker asked to see it, and being so excited about finishing it & handed it to him. (it was the first mini folder I'd made with blades on each end, which really complicates the fitting) Of course you can guess the first thing he did was drop it on the floor, bending the very tip of one blade. I had to reshape both blades then so they'd match.

To his credit, my co worker offered to pay me for it, but I refused. (again, I felt I should have just known better. My mistake.) He kept on buggin me about it, and finally said something like "Really, what do you want for it? Twenty or thirty bucks?" He shut up when I told him the customer was sending me a check for several hundred dollars for it. And I knocked a little off the price for my customer since the blades were not perfectly shaped any more, but he was still very happy with it.
 
I have had the same thing happen with my CS Ti-Lite. I had just purchased it and a friend wanted to try out the quillon opening system. I let him and woosh there it went out of the pocket, out of his hand, tip first onto the ground.....Needless to say I was mad. He offered to pay for it(he knows how much my toys are, so that was indearing). I said no as the tip wasnt bad just a lil flattened, I reprofiled it. Friends do silly things to each others toys and its all in accident.

That your friend came clean should be enough. yes he lied at first, but I am sure you knew that beforehand. He was scared as any of my friends would have been. Give him another shot.

As for the new knife.....dont replace it as far as i am concerned with another bump. Go get a diff one like that sebbie you want or a custom.
 
My Blue Bump is still babied, but it has its fair share of bumps.

If you're looking for something flashy, you might want to check out the Tuxedo Protech Godson, or Godfather. Black blade, and handle, with white Ivory Micarta handle. Or look for one of the Ti mini Protechs, like the Stinger, or Runt 2 with anodizing. Hard to find, but very nice!

With around $200, you might be able to find an Anodized BM 42. Didn't you used to swing a Bali? Now that would be flashy!

I also like the Kershaw Nakamura, and the McCusta with the carved Cocobolo handles that A. G. Russell sells, with the damascus blade.

A. G. also sells the Spyderco Kopa with Apple Coral handles, and other natural materials.

Daniel
 
I was traumatized, just reading about all the scratched knives and guns in this thread. I don't lend my Sebbie out to anyone. Instead, they are handed the SAK, maybe.
 
Well, he's totally forgiven, although at some point something questionable might happen again and then I'll have some remaining doubt about what side he's on. He's a great guy and a friend to all, so I just had such high hopes for him. But even that very night we went out to the lake and had a little bon fire party and it wasn't brought up again (and probably never will be). It's in the past, definitely. In regards to him buying it from me, earlier that day he had actually asked how much it'd take for me to sell it. He was a bit disappointed in the price (I wanted new for it--I didn't want to lose it, it was my favorite knife. Besides, it was flawless and had the original box and paperwork). In any case, it wasn't as big a jump for him to buy it as it might seem initially.

Again, not so much about the knife. Another close friend lost the cherished M16 that has survived so much testing here about four hours after I let him borrow it and I didn't so much as frown at him when he told me the next day.

But, all in the past, again. Now I get 150+ to blow on a new one.
My top choices thus far are
The Spyker (very close spirit to the Bump line)
Gravitator (pretty exotic and long been on the list)
Mcusta w/t Take (If I recall the name exactly, the one from the last page)
Green Bump (obvious choice, but I do hate to buy the same knife twice)

Thanks for the advice thus far, from everyone.
 
richardallen said:
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He came clean and offered to get you a new one. 'Nuff said. Get over it.

Keno
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I don't think so. I mean, I think it's awfully decent of Artfully Martial not to say a word to either of his friends. For me, it's just plain decency if a friend of yours lends you something of his/hers, for you to take care of it as best as you can and to keep an extra eye out for it ... which doesn't translate to losing it or dropping something you already know is expensive on the floor.

If a friend lends something to me, he/she can expect to get it back as good as it came and with much thanks from me. On the few times that hasn't happened (CD case cracked in my backpack, other people in the household messed it up) I have always told them about it upfront, apologized profusely and offered to buy a new one for them.

Not trying to say that everyone *must* do things this way, but " 'Nuff said, get over it" is a bit much.

P.S. The Mcusta Kasumi is very good looking as well.
 
Vee3 said:
Later he was bragging about his nice new scratches and asking me why my cheapo Remington 870 still looked so nice after so many years. I told him that my daddy taught me to respect and take care of my guns.
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Maybe you should bonk him on the head with it. That might scuff it up a bit. :)
 
DaTrueDave said:
I guess I'm somewhere in the middle. I don't understand owning a tool that you're afraid to use as hard as you need to, but I certainly don't go around intentionally damaging them! I can somewhat understand scratching something to "get over the dismay of the first scratch", but it's not something that I would do.

I guess that's why the Spec Bump interested me more than the Ti Bumps. It's just a more practical knife that I'm not afraid to scratch up... The Ti Bumps sure are purty, though! If I won the lottery, I'd have one and I'd use it, too!
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plus one to what dave said, i dont mess it up intentionally, but i have no hesitation to use it and use it hard i feel that a knife of that cost should be able to take abuse and cosmetics arent important to me anyway i like function
 
Your buddy choked on coming clean up front, but he came clean. That took some guts, not the same kind as being up front, but he had to admit to lying. That shows your friendship meant a lot to him. He didn't want that between you. I'd say he could still be a good friend. As far as knives go, that's up to you, I have different tastes. I'd get a Mooremaker Congress pattern or something.
 
Oh, we're still good friends. An hour later it was as if nothing had happened and we had a good time that night. Brought a big group and some pallets and had a bonfire at a local lake. It doesn't mean I'm not disappointed, but I'm over it. So time to rebuild the top end of my production knives again and forget it ever happened.
 
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