the one knife concept

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when I first got into this stuff I was looking for the one knife to do it all ...
as I gained some experience I switched to a combo of tools (which I still use, But there is a part of me that longs for the simple grab and go good for all purposes knife..
so here;s the question.. if you had to pick a do al knife for wilderness skills, and primitive survival what would it be.?
 
it wouldn't be too big, nor too small- just right :)

for me something in the 4"-ish range, 1/8-5/32"- not too thick, nor too thin; quality steel and a convex edge, good point- the F1 comes pretty close in my mind

if it's too big to dress game (small and large), then it's too big- might not be able to chop down a Redwood w/ it, but that's OK :)
 
6 inch blade minimum, 1.5" wide, 3/16" thick, w/ a 5" handle minimum. Full tang skeletonized for weight reduction. High carbon ie: 5160, or 1095, or tool steel ie O-1, A2. Full flat, or high scandi ground. Hrc 57-58 for good edge holding w/ ease of resharpening and "toughness". Short-clip point, spear point or steep drop point. .06-.08 Kydex sheath. Canvas Micarta, or Textured G10 for handle traction and durability, screw construction for maintaince and repair to handle. Well contoured and rounded(edge) handle. Flat spine with sharp 90* corners for firestriking. NO SERRATIONS, or finger choil.

That all being said, I am about systems and don't usually engage in "one tool" discussions as I would never find or put myself in one. But they can be fun discussions sometimes.
 
what Dave said!

I've been through the 1-knife does it all (from a big Buck "Buck Master" to a small/medium sized blade learned via US Army late-1980's Era SERE philosophy) to the specific-tool-for-the-job (chopper/bushcrafter/folding-saw/machete/multi-tool) approach. I'm sorta still of that mentality. Sort of.

I'm a big fan of a knife in the general dimensions as out-lined by Dave, though i'd opt for a wider blade (pers. preference), choil, and strictly a drop-point. A knife like this, i believe, could perform the majority of tasks very, very well. The 1-knife philosophy requires *innovation* and actual thinking through challenges (a particular problem for me). ;-)

However, i also like a smaller knife for food prep as well as a multi-tool and a folding saw. I EDC all those but the folding saw and i'm considering tossing it in the pack as well.
 
My original one knife concept looked like this~

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The Booshway is still very close to a perfect do-it-all knife for me but I've realised I do more cutting than chopping so came up with a slightly smaller, thinner design that looks like this, time will tell if this proves to be my perfect one knife design or not !

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I'd say something like a mora. Easy to sharpen, tough enough if you're not dumb.

That or an axe.....:D
 
For wilderness skills/primitive survival, a knife may or may not be the best choice.

If I have to survive through the night, especially in need of fire and shelter, something like this would rank far above a knife:

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For me, it's a tie. Becker BK2 or a RM Woodlore Knife. Either of those I would feel comfortable with as my one-and-only. I'll try to justify that later when I'm not browsing the forum on my iPhone.
 
The key to a 'one knife' is utilizing the one tool you have to make more tools that might be necessary to accomplish tasks. Obviously basic things like skinning, battoning, firecraft etc can be accomplished with a simple bushcraft knife, like a Mora, a machete, or anything in between. However felling trees, digging pits, carving detailed traps, etc may present a challange if you're limited to one tool.

It really comes down to your environment and your skill set-the materials you're presented with, the tasks at hand, etc. and your abilities to manipulate them. For some people it will be a Tramontina machete. Others will pick a scandi bushcraft knife, or a big thick E&E knife.

If not an axe, I'd take something in the 4.5-5 inch range, maybe .15 inches thick with a Scandi grind. L6 or 15N20 would be ideal, based on ease of sharpening and edge retention properties. In pine scratch, it wouldn't be hard to come up with a jo stick for producing dry dead low hanging branches for firewood. We're blessed with the world's best tooling obsidian, and all one needs is a core to produce a dozen prism blades, a good biface or even temporary-use flakes for taking care of detailed slicing tasks. We lack good hardwoods, so producing tools that require a strong haft or other tools that require consistant 'carvability' would be a challange. You might get lucky with cedar but otherwise you'd have to make do around here with the useless locust, cottonwood or softwoods. Where I grew up in Wisconsin, we had alot of flint-it was everywhere. Flint is more impact-resistant, longer lasting and harder to tool than obsidian, and you can manufacture chopping and splitting tools. With all the strong healthy hardwoods, you could fabricate a decent axe. In that case I'd take a thinner slicer.
 
I spend a fair amount of time in the Trad forum
They speak about you go to work in the morning
Of course you are wearing trousers
And of course you have a knife in your pocket
The one knife in your pocket for the working man is an older concept before we called it EDC

So having a single EDC is an easy possibility

Then right tool for the right job
You need more than the folder in your pocket?
You are going to to some heavier cutting then you need a sheath knife
You are going to do some chopping then you need an axe
And a saw?

So your one knife concept as a tool among tools is going to be radically different from one knife as the one tool

I think your comfort in carrying a Mora is indicative of your answer of different jobs need different tools
Where the Mora is a great sheath knife when you have an axe and a saw.


But if you want one knife as the one tool, then I will take my Enzo Trapper in O1
Scandi grind, 3.5mm thick, heavy enough so it will baton easily and yet with the grind still give me very fine cutting
(and pray that I am not in jungle where I should have taken a machete!)
 
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Here is the drawing for my 1-knife solution. It's hopefully going to come to fruition via Bryan Breeden (he has the drawings and details). It will be of 3/16" thickness 01 steel sporting a high-sabre grind and comprised of micarta slabs.

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Since I tend more toward slicing/cutting than chopping the length should provide some bit of ability for de-limbing and smaller challenges, though it should excel at slicing/carving/batoning type tasks.
 
One knife? I think I'd take something big, since shelter and fire building would be a higher priority than game or fine woodwork - particularly this time of year. Yesterday I was tromping around with a Condor Hudson Bay in my pack (but the BM Mini Grip in my pocket was the only one that saw actual use - the salami never stood a chance).


I can't imagine deliberately choosing one cutting tool though over a combo. Also, if I were thrust into the woods unexpectedly, I'd be much more likely to have a small edc on me, and I'd have to make that work.
 
Although I think Dave Behrens really hits the ideal design, materials and construction I just have a hard time choosing only one knife if I “have to”. I think most here would do just fine in those situations if they had just a simple Mora or even just a nice Granfors Bruks SFA.

The single, ideal knife often does several things, just not very many of them well. The wide, thinner blade does give you a lot more versatility, every time I grab that SBT, Halibus, Martin Knives BT; I always wish I had a more dedicated chopper or machete and even a smaller blade or SAK. I really like the late Ron Hood’s preference for the larger bladed knives (and have many of them), but I don’t always pack them along unless I’m specifically planning on working with them. I pack a 5” blade knife daily in uniform and it goes practically unnoticed; what I want is a fixed blade with a comfortable sheath/carry system that I can wear all day, when I’m sleeping and will remain secure, quick to access and easy to re-sheath. I still refuse to choose just one though…:p

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Here is the drawing for my 1-knife solution. It's hopefully going to come to fruition via Bryan Breeden (he has the drawings and details). It will be of 3/16" thickness 01 steel sporting a high-sabre grind and comprised of micarta slabs.

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Since I tend more toward slicing/cutting than chopping the length should provide some bit of ability for de-limbing and smaller challenges, though it should excel at slicing/carving/batoning type tasks.

I think that would work just fine although for me I'd like the handle contouring to be a little less aggressive. Nice design !
 
Thanks Pitdog! It was fun drawing it up.

A 1-knife 'kit-bag' can do a lot - alot more than we sometimes think. Check out less-technological societies than ours, live among them for a few years. It's *very* easy to see much more can be done with a simpler tool-set *if* we are willing to exercise our minds. In the more 'developed' world, everyone tells us we need to have the exact, perfect solution/tool for the job (marketing, etc), but it's not really true.

If we want the absolute 'best' (fastest? easiest?) results, than specialized tools are a must, but that doesn't mean we can't do a whole lot more with what we already have.
 
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A SAK or Multitool with a saw. For me - it's the Leatherman Juice KF4. I love having an awl when out and about. Plus, this may be cheating, but it is one knife that happens to have two blades (plain edge and serrated).
 
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