The Poop Pee Couch

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I think it was 1995 and in Idaho Falls when we got the little Schweiger sofa and loveseat combo on sale for a about a thousand bucks. I think we drove to Pocatello to get it.

There was a sofa in the store well above it, in heaven, that cost three times as much. I kinda wanted it, I mean, even the cushions had springs in them, and you could tell it was well built. The saleman and store owner was a grizzled old bird, an sofa man from way back, and he strongly reccomended the elite set, last a lifetime.

"Well, what's wrong with the Schweiger, isn't it pretty good?"
"It is," he agreed, "and that's a good price on it. But years after it no longer is satisfactory, the Fairborne will remain a peice to treasure."

Our Schweiger is 'no longer satisfactory'. For one thing, my wife is or at least used to be nostalgic for the 'old timey elegant look'. So picking out a light white paisley covering wasn't a problem to her eye, but rang some inner content of tea sets and domesticity only her God and her could communicate about. The rest of knew the thing would be stained in 3 hours flat.

And with babies running about, that is what happened. Our little Schweiger soon was the color of mud. Have a seat- really- it's a Schweiger. My wife had the idea that dirt fell off when it was specially treated at the factory. They tried to no avail to sell us the 'special coating' for about 500 bucks if I recall. No thanks. 3 days later we got a phone call from the store and they said the factory had already installed the coating- imagine that. Doesn't really matter, if few are willing to place moist towel and light soap against the surface of the material the mud and grime is not going to jump off out of self sacrafise for the well being of the Home. No, dirt sits. My wife complained frequently about what a gyp that coating was. I showed her several times with a wash rag what needed to be done but that took years to set in, and by the time the idea had come across, the two sofas were permanently mud stained.

I saw at the store the love seat was just perfect for a head on the arm rest at one end, and my feet up on the other. This didn't help, and somewhere along the way, we lost the seat covers. We could have left it in cellophane the way many do- and brush your trousers there boy, before you set on that chair. But we preferred a more relaxed livingroom. Ours was too. Babies peed, food spilled, noses were wiped when they knew Dad wasn't looking, and the two sofas just got worse.

Keithy finally killed the love seat. You could make love on it, I guess, a kind of raw trailer trash love, but really, the dipsy dumpster would only be a little dirtier. You could tell the Schweiger's were going down fast when fewer and fewer of our infrequent guests found it neccesary to sit on them. I know my lawyer and his wife would not. Me and the kids and Charlie Bear still would, but then, we were kind of all of us kids. My back has taken a bad bend to it in these last years- too much time pressed into the cushions and not enough out of doors.
A couch citizen. A real Schweiger man.

Keith fell asleep on it a couple weeks ago. That was OK, but he peed. That was OK, but he pooped too, and the pee mixed with the poop, and all that goodness sort of seeped into the cushion. I only found out two hours later, when he awoke and I realized I should change him. I'm not very quick. He looked so peacefull, too.

I tried scrubbing it, and have you noticed, by the way, that Simple Green cleaning fluid smells kind of like a poop pee couch? Oh, I don't mean it smells bad, but it smells about like what you'd come up with if you thought you could mask the reek of a poop pee couch, and let me tell you, you cannot.

Well, I could have had the Fairbane, Fairhorne, Fairmarket or whatever it was called. I remember I told Mom about it.

"It would last for years I said.
"I can't think of any seat covering I want to last for years," She said.
Very wise and true, my Mom.

"Let's take it outside and let the Coon's pee on it." I announced to the kids.
"Yeah," Carter laughed, 'the Coons and Porcupines and cats and dogs..."
Probably even the chipmunks...." I said. We all laughed pretty hard.

"We could put it downtown, in the town square."
"Or next to the Jail."

"Or, we could get it on top of the mountain behind our house." The boys looked at me. "The Cougars would piss on it then."

They would too. Be a natural landmark, and any carnivore is bound to resent the smell of our Schweiger- a kind of personal insult. Only Keithy sits tranquil on it now. What smell? He says.
Well, it's his now.


munk
 
Raising five kids on a cop's salary, that pretty much squares with my personal experience. Enoughh said about that. Look forward a few years...the kids are up and grown.....you and the wife pick a couch for you...and you know what...I don't miss the miasma for a minute :D
 
Pee/Poop. There is something about that mixture after it has time to reach fusion (fission?) within a diaper or pair of pants, that is pure olfactory evil.

We have a pink one piece baby suit (scratch that--we USED to have one) in which both of my daughters exploded a pee/poop extravaganza, and both of them did it in Wal Mart. You can make all kinds of polital inferences from this (and you'd be right), but the odd thing really is that the suit seemed to cause this. They did this other times in the same suit while not in wal mart too. Hardly ever outside of pink suits.

We are slow learners. The pink suit pattern took us some time to spot.
 
My wife and I splurged on a really nice couch and loveseat when we bought the house. Then we scrounged and scraped for three months to avoid the interest. Really nice top grain leather duo from a manufacturer here in Atlanta. I've never seen better. Four years later they look exactly as they did before. Poop and pee and vommit, and even milk have wiped right off. No stains from the dog, or cat. Muddy shoes don't affect it. And, this is the best part, top grain cowhide is warm to the touch and you don't sweat to it when you've sat on it through an entire movie. The set was 3K. Leather Creations. The frame is solid hardwood, no plywood. The panels on the rear are full width in case you damage a coushin and that dye is gone. These features are hard to find. I'm very happy with our choice although at the time I thought 3,000 was crazy. Our friends went to rooms to go and spent 1,200. They have already had to replace that set with another 1,200 dollar set. You get what you pay for. I was never a leather person, but this set has changed my outlook. You have to get really FINE leather though. Cheap leather sweats to you and isn't comfortable for naps.
 
Man, I would have thought this was a weird thread until my little nephew came along. He's a crazy little monkey, but he has yet to anoint my couch.
That is one good thing about leather, everything wipes off. However one cut and you will cry.
 
Its hard for me to relate to this as I am at the opposite end of the scale .
Futon . Frame ten dollars . New mattress? 50 bucks every year or so . Take the mattress out in springtime flop it over a rope and beat the crap out of it a la carpet beater .

I guess for more established families the traditional couch is more apropos and convenient . I hunt the streets for discarded leather couches and skin them for their useable parts . With a stiffening rod they make adequate plains Indian quivers .
When I walk through furniture stores I just see a thousand dollars that could go to my daughters college fund . (Oh yes , I see quivers as well . Hmmm sharp knife in pocket ,salesman not looking ? L:O:L)
 
If nothing else, once Keithy is done with it, you can take it out back and use it for target practice. Though I wouldn't really want to clean up after all that mess.

Side note, my fiance` lives up there in Idaho Falls. Well, Iona actually, right near there.
 
We too still have our 10+ year old living room seating, but they still look no more than a year old.

But,............... that's probably because we are a very careful bunch in my household. My wife and I had set certain rules in our home, rules the kids had to follow, but that we too followed for good example (never liked the double standard method).

If my wife and I are watching TV in our living room, we do so with no food or drink (so too do our kids follow this rule in the living room).

Up until the kids were about 9-10 years old, they were only allowed to eat in the kitchen or dining room. Once they got past that age, they were then allowed to take drink and food to their rooms, but we stressed them to take pride in how they kept their rooms (to keep their rooms somewhat presentable at all times, but more importantly,.......... for the rooms to be kept clean). My daughter is currently 16 years old, and is the only one in her group of friends that is actually allowed to have a refrigerator in her bedroom (a small 4 cubic foot specimen) :)

To this day, when my kids visit other friends homes, they draw praise from other parents for their manners and actions. They take their shoes off when entering their homes, they don't put their feet on other's furniture, they don't run or play ball inside their homes, they are not loud with their voices in other's homes, they say "ma'am" and "sir", they say "thank you" and "no thank you", and even openly converse with the other kid's parents. They simply stick out amongst a lot of today's other kids (something I take a lot of pride in) :)



Some may think that my kids may be strange for all this well mannered stuff,........... but no, my kids are not strange at all and are actually well known for being liked and outgoing.

Yup, we are a careful bunch, but this is the way we have always been, so it's not strange for us,............. it's the only way we know, and we think it's very normal :)

It's very true that people think of a "homie" environment in different ways. What is okay for one, may not be okay for another. What I may feel most comfortable with, the next guy may not. That's why there is no place like home,............... just like Dorothy said in the Wizard of Oz ;)
 
We have a green leather sofa that is off limits for bad behavior.
I'm not certain why, but my three sons also draw universal remarks of high praise wherever they go, for good behavior. I'm not certain if this is because the Deer Lodge State Pen behavior hasn't yet blosomed, or the Schweigers fullfilled some useful purpose afterall as sacraficial goats.
Home is indeed different for everyone. There are lethal weapons all over my house, and my sons are well behaved around them. They've made their mistakes with many items, and have protected and maintained others very well.

A bumper sticker I'd like to see in suburbia:

"My son shoots 2" Groups Offhand at 25 yards."

A family picks its battles. The younger two amaze me with how they bus their dishes after eating, for instance, but do other things less desirable.

I'm not sure what will happen when they are older. I've seen many fine homes with felons for residents. I've seen manicured lawns and serial killers- I believe Ted Bundy had very good manners. It would not have occured to me to imagine as went the love seat so will their moral character. I'm sure if that were true we'd all have emaculate Schweigers.


munk
 
No doubt, Munk, that training one's kids to take extra care of one's property does not make one a better parent ;)

For me, I just wanted to teach them to take pride in their own possessions, as well as respecting that of others, but this was just one aspect of my way of upbringing them.

I too have weapons of all sorts in my home, and I too exposed them to the pleasures of firearms use. This may be seen as a bad thing in some folks eyes, but I think it's fine, and they are very far from being Columbine type kids,.......... that's for sure :)

I used to laugh to myself when other parents would come over and say such things as........... "How can you have such delicate items in your home?! If it were at my house, my kids would be breaking that stuff left and right!"
They would say other things such as,......... "My kids are in those terrible 2's and 3's stage". Or even,......... "My kids are in those teenage years, you will see when your kids are at that age".

When mine were 2 and 3, we adjusted along with them, and had no major problems. When they were 6 through 10, we adjusted with them, and had no major problems. When they became 12 through 15, we adjusted with them, and had no major problem.

Here they are now, one almost 17, the other just turned 18 this month (which is graduating and going to college this year), and we have no major problems :)

As I mentioned in a prior thread and in part of this one here, both are well liked by their peers, both are involved in sports, both are involved in extra curricular activities (including the National Honor Society), both are on their high school's high honor roll, and so much more.

So yes, no doubt that it takes more than showing one's kids to be careful with one's belongings to raise them to be good people, but I have that covered as well ;)
 
I too have weapons of all sorts in my home, and I too exposed them to the pleasures of firearms use. This may be seen as a bad thing in some folks eyes, but I think it's fine, and they are very far from being Columbine type kids,.......... that's for sure >>>>>>>>> JJ

Oh, without a doubt- the anti Columbine measure is education of arms.




munk
 
I must agree that impeccable manners in children and a clean home can not help but present a good image to the world . There is something to be said for earthy pursuits which preclude the idea of a spotless regime . Can there be a more pleasant sight than the smudged faced smile of a child coming home from a days wanderings down by the creek ? While the reign of mayhem in a home would rarely suffice I think it would be sad to see discipline always in its place .
 
Disipline surely has it's place, and I expect it from my children,.......... for them to show disipline when it's most appropriate to do so.

They loved/love to play ball outside, my wife and I oftentimes joining them, but ball playing was never allowed "inside" our house.

They ran and played tag outside in the yard, but running was not allowed in the house.

They are/were allowed to go outside and get wet and soggy in the rain/snow, or very dirty on a rainy/sunny summer day. With that said, when the fun was over, we expected there to be enough disipline to not make a mess when they returned home from their activities. We respected them enough to let them have fun, so we expect them to respect us enough to not track mud or dirty snow all over the house.

They were loud and yelled outside while having their fun, but were taught that those actions were to be left outside, not brought inside the home.

They are/have always been allowed to speak to us or to each other freely, allowing for a good bond for us all, but were frowned upon if they did so while having food in their mouths.

They were/are allowed to wear clothes that are in current style, but I don't want people to see what god gave them to be private, and surely did and do not care for others to see their underwear when they are fully dressed.

This list could go on to infinity, but it does not need to go any further to get my way of thinking expressed.

It's not that my kids were/are not allowed to be kids, but that everything has it's appropriate time and place. While there are always some exceptions to the rule that can be made, for the most part, my kids learned to use just the right amount of disipline for whatever the situation was at hand :)

I do believe that freedom and disipline can go hand in hand, it's called self control. This is something, IMO, that parents have a big part in teaching their children :)
 
Certainly , with freedom comes responsibility . I respect and admire what you are saying . It is the question that I most always raise in relation to what I admire . It is a question of degree and perhaps personal preference .
My idea of a home is the lowest maintenance hardest living single level easily heated whatever comes in the front door can get swept out the back kind of place . A mud room is desireable and sadly lacking in most modern home designs . Having a Malamute means there is just about always some fur that has to be brushed up somewhere .Most of the hard core archers I know have a range that goes down the hallway . Archery target right beside the dartboard . I would do the same but the thumps wake up the neighbor .
Most of my neighbours are not too pleased with the backyard and seeing me scrape animal skins in it . sometimes life is messy . The fact that their shoes are made from leather doesn,t enter into their personal equation of what is right and wrong . A lot of people like to live in a :My meat comes from a cellophane wrapped package:kind of world . It kind of fits in with a : My couch is wrapped in cellophane: kind of world . Everything is just wrapped a little too tight . L:O:L
 
JimmyJimenez said:
Disipline surely has it's place, and I expect it from my children,.......... for them to show disipline when it's most appropriate to do so.

They loved/love to play ball outside, my wife and I oftentimes joining them, but ball playing was never allowed "inside" our house.

They ran and played tag outside in the yard, but running was not allowed in the house.

They are/were allowed to go outside and get wet and soggy in the rain/snow, or very dirty on a rainy/sunny summer day. With that said, when the fun was over, we expected there to be enough disipline to not make a mess when they returned home from their activities. We respected them enough to let them have fun, so we expect them to respect us enough to not track mud or dirty snow all over the house.

They were loud and yelled outside while having their fun, but were taught that those actions were to be left outside, not brought inside the home.

They are/have always been allowed to speak to us or to each other freely, allowing for a good bond for us all, but were frowned upon if they did so while having food in their mouths.

They were/are allowed to wear clothes that are in current style, but I don't want people to see what god gave them to be private, and surely did and do not care for others to see their underwear when they are fully dressed.

This list could go on to infinity, but it does not need to go any further to get my way of thinking expressed.

It's not that my kids were/are not allowed to be kids, but that everything has it's appropriate time and place. While there are always some exceptions to the rule that can be made, for the most part, my kids learned to use just the right amount of disipline for whatever the situation was at hand :)

I do believe that freedom and disipline can go hand in hand, it's called self control. This is something, IMO, that parents have a big part in teaching their children :)

Very well said Jimmy, very well said indeed!!!!
:thumbup:
Many, many years ago an old friend of mine was telling me one day about a friend of his that remarked how good his kid's were. Dean said he told his friend, "Hell, you think my kid's are good you should see Yvsa's!!!! Yvsa's kids make mine look like little hellions!!!"
My kid's addressed adults as Yes sir and Yes maam and No sir and No maam and I'm proud to say my son's kid's and their kid's do the same thing.:thumbup: :D
And I could take my kid's anywhere at anytime and even in the homes with the most elaborate what nots setting out and around they would never be touched. My kid's were taught to look but never touch when it didn't belong to them.
When my last wife became a grandmother she went around "baby proofing" our house. I asked her what in the hell she was doing and she told me, "Putting things up so my grandchild won't be getting into trouble all of the time."
I asked her just how in the hell was a kid supposed to learn if they weren't allowed the opportunity to get into trouble.
I've seen those kids since we divorced and I can guarantee that they *Would Be* in trouble the minute they hit my front door until they left, either that or I would either set their asses down and make them set still until they left or invite daddy and mommy to leave and come back when they could leave their kid's at home or elsewhere!!!!

And I absolutely marvel when I see W.A.S.P. kids out and about with their parents that are well behaved because it is so damned rare these days!!!!
And I always marvel and admire ethnic folks with their kid's out and about because 95% of the time or more their kids are behaving in a manner that reflects a really good impression of their parent's and the way they have disciplined and are raising their kid's!!!!
Kids like that are going to be a credit to the whole nation one day.:thumbup: :cool: :D
I love good kids and can't stand brats.
 
Yvsa said:
Very well said Jimmy, very well said indeed!!!!
:thumbup:
Many, many years ago an old friend of mine was telling me one day about a friend of his that remarked how good his kid's were. Dean said he told his friend, "Hell, you think my kid's are good you should see Yvsa's!!!! Yvsa's kids make mine look like little hellions!!!"
My kid's addressed adults as Yes sir and Yes maam and No sir and No maam and I'm proud to say my son's kid's and their kid's do the same thing.:thumbup: :D
And I could take my kid's anywhere at anytime and even in the homes with the most elaborate what nots setting out and around they would never be touched. My kid's were taught to look but never touch when it didn't belong to them.
When my last wife became a grandmother she went around "baby proofing" our house. I asked her what in the hell she was doing and she told me, "Putting things up so my grandchild won't be getting into trouble all of the time."
I asked her just how in the hell was a kid supposed to learn if they weren't allowed the opportunity to get into trouble.
I've seen those kids since we divorced and I can guarantee that they *Would Be* in trouble the minute they hit my front door until they left, either that or I would either set their asses down and make them set still until they left or invite daddy and mommy to leave and come back when they could leave their kid's at home or elsewhere!!!!

And I absolutely marvel when I see W.A.S.P. kids out and about with their parents that are well behaved because it is so damned rare these days!!!!
And I always marvel and admire ethnic folks with their kid's out and about because 95% of the time or more their kids are behaving in a manner that reflects a really good impression of their parent's and the way they have disciplined and are raising their kid's!!!!
Kids like that are going to be a credit to the whole nation one day.:thumbup: :cool: :D
I love good kids and can't stand brats.


Sounds familiar Yvsa! We were allowed 3 responses to my Dad: "Yes Sir", "No Sir", or "No excuse Sir!"

The last was a great get out of jail free card so to speak. No matter how bad the screw up, we would be allowed to go just about scot free when asked why something had happened if we gave the "no excuse" answer. But God help us if we tried to BS our way out of it.

We spoke to all adults that way; just how we were taught. When I started taking Kenpo classes when I was 12, I said "Yes Sir" and "No Sir" to my instructor for several lessons. He kept saying I didn't have to speak to him that way, and to just call him "Dave." My Dad heard this and went to the head of the school and asked for a new instructor. Said if the instructor did not want to be treated with deference and respect then he wanted someone who did teaching his son.

Just my luck, in place of Mr. Casual Dave, I ended up with an older by the book hard ass, who appreciated my manners, and ended up being a much better instructor I think.

I'm not saying that's necessary in all cases, but like Yvsa I am still favorably impressed on the rare occassions young people actually speak to me with some respect. Although I may have selective retention, I don't ever recall being spoken to as an adult with the same deference that I used when I was a child.

Norm
 
I,m going to invest in a cellophane factory . L:O:L When I worked in fire alarms I wired up so many Swiffer wet jet crisis clean Condos it just boggles the mind .More toxic chemicals are used to keep the place clean than to decontaminate a nuclear test site . . Sterile white walls offset by wussy white couches .
Kids ? What kids . Less than a one per family ratio . Much less .
That would require the pallid white condo dwellers to retire to the wonderfully white bedroom and pray for an immaculately white conception .
It just aint a gonna happen .
Personally I am glad they don,t have children . I betcha if they did they would be well behaved little automatons .

I think kids are supposed to be in trouble sometimes . Their spirits are supposed to overflow their bounds occasionally . Only the spiritless would not . Track a little mud in the house ? we would just get the redneck version of the swiffer wet jet out . Its called a wet dry vac and it screams like a banshee on steroids .
Since when did dirt get dirty ?
 
i have a three hole and a two hole couch, both in a velvety forest green. the dogs love 'em, and have not as yet poop/peed on them. they do lay on them & lick the arms for hours.

blue took the cushions off when he was a pup & carefully unzipped the covers and removed all the polyester fibre that surrounded the foam rubber in the core. did that to all 5 cushions in one day. left the fibre shredded in one neat circular pile. the covers and foam were untouched, as was the rest of the couch.

reassembled them as best as i could & here on three years later they're still OK. he didn't do that again.

millie just does the licking bit.

so far the velvety cloth seems indestructable, does not appear dirty & my dyson sucks all the muddy doggie prints, dust & doggie hair (and dried drool) off nicely.
 
Yvsa said:
Very well said Jimmy, very well said indeed!!!!
:thumbup:
Many, many years ago an old friend of mine was telling me one day about a friend of his that remarked how good his kid's were. Dean said he told his friend, "Hell, you think my kid's are good you should see Yvsa's!!!! Yvsa's kids make mine look like little hellions!!!"
My kid's addressed adults as Yes sir and Yes maam and No sir and No maam and I'm proud to say my son's kid's and their kid's do the same thing.:thumbup: :D
And I could take my kid's anywhere at anytime and even in the homes with the most elaborate what nots setting out and around they would never be touched. My kid's were taught to look but never touch when it didn't belong to them.
When my last wife became a grandmother she went around "baby proofing" our house. I asked her what in the hell she was doing and she told me, "Putting things up so my grandchild won't be getting into trouble all of the time."
I asked her just how in the hell was a kid supposed to learn if they weren't allowed the opportunity to get into trouble.
I've seen those kids since we divorced and I can guarantee that they *Would Be* in trouble the minute they hit my front door until they left, either that or I would either set their asses down and make them set still until they left or invite daddy and mommy to leave and come back when they could leave their kid's at home or elsewhere!!!!

And I absolutely marvel when I see W.A.S.P. kids out and about with their parents that are well behaved because it is so damned rare these days!!!!
And I always marvel and admire ethnic folks with their kid's out and about because 95% of the time or more their kids are behaving in a manner that reflects a really good impression of their parent's and the way they have disciplined and are raising their kid's!!!!
Kids like that are going to be a credit to the whole nation one day.:thumbup: :cool: :D
I love good kids and can't stand brats.

Thank you so much for your kind and understanding response.
Reading your words made me feel like I was reading my own thoughts. It's very obvious that you and I are on the same page :)


This other talk of wraping up furniture to keep them clean, I cannot relate to. I take the proper use, respect, and maintenance methods, to handle matters perfectly. Though I do keep a lot of my collectibles behind glass, the main reason is to be able to enjoy their beauty, without having to constantly worry about cleaning each and every one of them individually (which I have to do a lot of with my exposed items). The wood and glass displays also add a higher level of visual appeal, IMO, and it's another reason why I like them. That said, these displays were never meant to keep my children away from these items, since they were simply taught to just leave these things be.

We also rarely have to use any harsh chemicals in our home, so I can't relate to that one either. Sure we clean, does not everybody?,............... but it usually only involves the typical floor vacuum, broom, mop and some dish detergent/water soaked rags.
Since we truly take care of our suroundings and belongings, the times we have to pull out the heavy cleaning artillery is extremely rare.

Of course, no matter how well taught and behaved children may be, they will occasionally find themselves doing something that their mom and dad are not pleased about. This is usually not a big deal (as long as no-one died or anything), it's no major problem. One simply has to let them know to not repeat this same action again. When children don't get away with things because you put a halt to it from the first time that you notice, it works better, at least for me, than when kids are left to repeat the same mistakes over and over again. Letting them "get away" with such actions only forms a pattern, one which may later become harder to break, IMO.
An example of this is like when I sometimes see children that run like savage beasts in other's homes. I can't imagine that these wild children have been disiplined correctly. Here they are sometimes 7, 8, even 10 or twelve years old, and I wonder to myself, I wonder if these parents allow this type of behavior in their own homes?

But this is only my opinion, others here will certainly not agree, and it's why I say that there is no place like home and one's own family :)


I guess the proof is in the pudding, and with mine it shows by their pleasant outgoing personalities, by their success with having good friendships, by their always achieving well in school, by their involvement in sports, by their being well liked by adults (including very well liked by their teachers), by they being admired and looked up to by their younger cousins, by the way that they like to dress and present themselves, by their caring of their suroundings and possessions, by they respecting others suroundings and possessions, by their charity work, by their respect for others, and so very much more. It's not one area that I can pinpoint, or just a couple of things that make us so proud of them, but instead it's the entire package that they offer.

The great adults they themselves have become. Two children (they will always be that to us), two we could not have asked more of, and could not be more proud of,..................... we must have done something right ;)
 
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