The Poop Pee Couch

[JimmyJimenez]

I don't usually disagree with you Yvsa, but I think the numbers are equal per capita. Every ethnic group has good and bad kids/parents. Todays gangs are mostly populated with ethnic children.

All one can do as a parent, is be the best one can possibly be. To try and do one's best to keep them out of the hands of the bad guys (child molesters, gangs, drug dealers, thieves, and the like)

 

[Fiddleback]

All one can do as a parent, is be the best one can possibly be, and try one's hardest to keep them out ofthe hands of the bad guys (child molesters, gangs, dug dealers, thieves, and the like)

Here here. I think my daughter is a great motovator for me and she is molding me into the type of person I want to be unbenownst (sp) to her. Every time I want to take a shortcut that was common before her birth I think of her.


"(child molesters, gangs, dug dealers, thieves, and the like)" Harder and harder to avoid these days. We have a registered sex offender (child molestation) in my neighborhood who likes to hang out at the pool. I chased him away one day and was booed by my neighbors. He told me as he was leaving he could have me arrested for doing it too. Meanwhile all the kids are hanging out in their bathing suits. Everyone knew who he was too, I just had the balls to do something about it. Come and get me policeman, I aint changing a thing. I keep the windows locked and a weapon nearby at all times. Before my daughter gets "roam the neighborhood" age we're moving.

 

[hollowdweller]

I agree!

I felt this way myself when our kids were growing up, and it's why my wife stayed home when they were small.

I did not want to leave them with strangers (babysitters and such), and wanted them to be guided by us, not by others that may have totally different upbringing views, (did not want to confuse them)

We went through tougher times financially, but we believe the trade off was well worth it. Just another thing that worked for us

Yeah but you did the right thing I think. Like Old Munk there. The most valuable thing you can give kids is your time (in my opinion-I have no kids so take it or leave it)

 

[JimmyJimenez]

Andy,

The thing is that they are everywhere!

It could be a neighbor, your mailman, your kids teacher, an uncle, a grandfather, your kids doctor, the persons in the passing cars in front of your home,............... it's scary, but all so true.

There are the ones on the registered lists, but then one wonders the many more that have not yet acted on their desires, or that have yet not been caught.

Moving,........... well, unless it's to a deserted island, those dangers will always be there. My kids are not at their most vunerable ages anymore, but I still let them know that dangers could always be just around the corner (I worry a lot about the wife as well).

 

[Fiddleback]

Andy,

The thing is that they are everywhere!

It could be a neighbor, your mailman, your kids teacher, an uncle, a grandfather, your kids doctor, the persons in the passing cars in front of your home,............... it's scary, but all so true.

There are the ones on the registered lists, but then one wonders the many more that have not yet acted on their desires, or that have yet not been caught.

Moving,........... well, unless it's to a deserted island, those dangers will always be there. My kids are not at their most vunerable ages anymore, but I still let them know that dangers could always be just around the corner (I worry a lot about the wife as well).

You are right, but I can't chase away everyone, and peace of mind is valuable. I would have chased away a non listed person leering at a 3 year old.

I worry about my wife too. She doesn't look for danger in situations. It worries me.

 

[JimmyJimenez]

Yeah, same with my wife.
Sometimes she goes on her mountain bike or out jogging alone, and I right away say to her............. "just be careful" (she knows what I mean).
I'm always telling her to be alert of her surroundings, but with her I know it just goes in one ear and out the other. The kids have long gotten the message, but the wife is another story. But hey, I did not raise her up,............ she'd definitely be different then (of course I would not be her husband either)............... LOL!

 

[Kevin the grey]

I'm getting old tree stumps for furniture. It's cheap and easy to wrap in the plastic cellophane stuff.

First laugh of the day . I,m busy turning a wine rack into an arrow dripping tray . No cellophane required . I have to admit it makes the wine taste funny . L:O:L

 

[Kevin the grey]

I think it is true that some groups of people hold true to family values . A sense of community or at the very least a cooperative nature . It matters little to me if they are catholic or Cantonese . To me it is best we don,t name them in particular . It is not a question of political correctness . It is an observation that it is the sense of community more than where that community comes from that is important . It is parents who play with and care for their children more than the type of structure they house them in .

Love may be blind and faceless . It is wonderfully diverse in how it is shown and expressed . I would live in a hovel for the love of my child . I would not take a palace if she was distant from me .

 

[Yvsa]

Andy you're right about the ethnic kids usually being the ones in gangs and all the other crap, but those kids generally have just *one* parent, *or* one of their parents is a bad apple themselves and raising the youngster the way they themselves were raised.
Kids with two good parents whether ethnic or not generally turn out to be good kids. I just happen to notice well behaved kids and most usually they are of an ethnic background.
The predominant race in the US are generally part of a nuclear family with their own set of problems they either instill in their kid's or they drive them to look for the camaraderie in a gang.
Way too many folks come from dysfunctional families these days and it seems that family values have gone the way of the Dodo and the Passenger Pigeon.

 

[Fiddleback]

Andy you're right about the ethnic kids usually being the ones in gangs and all the other crap, but those kids generally have just *one* parent, *or* one of their parents is a bad apple themselves and raising the youngster the way they themselves were raised.
Kids with two good parents whether ethnic or not generally turn out to be good kids. I just happen to notice well behaved kids and most usually they are of an ethnic background.
The predominant race in the US are generally part of a nuclear family with their own set of problems they either instill in their kid's or they drive them to look for the camaraderie in a gang.
Way too many folks come from dysfunctional families these days and it seems that family values have gone the way of the Dodo and the Passenger Pigeon.

There I agree with you wholeheartedly. :thumbup:

 

[JimmyJimenez]

Andy you're right about the ethnic kids usually being the ones in gangs and all the other crap, but those kids generally have just *one* parent, *or* one of their parents is a bad apple themselves and raising the youngster the way they themselves were raised.
Kids with two good parents whether ethnic or not generally turn out to be good kids. I just happen to notice well behaved kids and most usually they are of an ethnic background.
The predominant race in the US are generally part of a nuclear family with their own set of problems they either instill in their kid's or they drive them to look for the camaraderie in a gang.
Way too many folks come from dysfunctional families these days and it seems that family values have gone the way of the Dodo and the Passenger Pigeon.

I believe many folks simply have a hard time in balancing the responsibilities of parenthood. IMO, it takes a lot of ingredients to raise a child properly, (respect, love, disipline, quality time, etc), and some don't know how, or find it too difficult to incorporate these factors into their childs lives. It's a balancing act that not all can perform well. Most parents truly love their children, but for some, they simply lose control of the situation (if they ever had any control to begin with).

My wife and I constantly evaluated ourselves to see if adjustments needed to be made. We would sit down and tell each other where we felt something needed special attention or adjustment, and when it came to our kids, we more than definitely heard each other out

This is why I agree that two good parents is so essential in parenting. I'm not saying that a good single dad or mom can't do a decent job on their own, but it's got to make things a lot tougher. The tougher it is, the more chances for possible failure. Even though some don't agree that a father brings something to the parenting table that a mom cannot, and vise versa, I believe it to be a fact.

I don't call my wife "my better half" for nothing. What we have accomplished with our children has been a true partnership achievement (a teamwork effort)