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A truly excellent post, above. Thank you.
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Outstanding!Indeed it is a flag day here today and thanks toThe Zieg for bringing up Lönnrot. Not only a scholar of oral folk traditions but compiler of a Finsk-Svensk dictionary and a Finnish language work on biology.
Finnish is damnably inflected (but many other languages are handicapped by prepositions) and @A.L. is of course correct about the plural form of puukko, but being ruotsinkielen and living in the west my grasp of Finnish grammar, amongst other things..not always on point. Think puukkot would be 'on the puukko' strictly speaking?
Finnish is not an Indo-European language it has no similarities with neighbouring languages such as Russian, Swedish, German and borrows surprisingly few words from other languages being very inventive even in these globalized 'Bro' timesIt's close to Estonian, they can understand Finns but Finns not always them. It is linguistically akin to Hungarian, another maverick language on its own surrounded by Slavic & Romance languages, but they are no way mutually intelligible.
Back to the knives then. I've regarded the puukko as a working tool, handy outdoor item and as such never been drawn to having an expensive Custom made, whereas pocket-knives....There certainly is a shed load of pedantic bickering amongst certain 'experts' about what is a real puukko and it's often tedious. Like in the Classic Car world where monster egos monster each other
I've been to the Kauhava puukko festivals in June and some of the dealers sell ordinary stuff, others are custom makers and some are friendly but others dour, and seem to harbour dislikes of each other on a petty scale. Not been since covid so I'm not even sure if it still takes place.
I've been more than pleased with the Marttiini and Kauhavan knives I've had, inexpensive, decent and handle well. Others, particularly abroad, may thirst for more elaborate puukko or rare historical ones, all good, all part of the joy of knife ownership and use, something that often gets forgotten.
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Will, you always manage to put things very succinctly. Part of the fun of knife collecting is learning the culture that created the knives. I am woefully ignorant of Finland in general, other than it's geographical location.Indeed it is a flag day here today and thanks toThe Zieg for bringing up Lönnrot. Not only a scholar of oral folk traditions but compiler of a Finsk-Svensk dictionary and a Finnish language work on biology.
Finnish is damnably inflected (but many other languages are handicapped by prepositions) and @A.L. is of course correct about the plural form of puukko, but being ruotsinkielen and living in the west my grasp of Finnish grammar, amongst other things..not always on point. Think puukkot would be 'on the puukko' strictly speaking?
Finnish is not an Indo-European language it has no similarities with neighbouring languages such as Russian, Swedish, German and borrows surprisingly few words from other languages being very inventive even in these globalized 'Bro' timesIt's close to Estonian, they can understand Finns but Finns not always them. It is linguistically akin to Hungarian, another maverick language on its own surrounded by Slavic & Romance languages, but they are no way mutually intelligible.
Back to the knives then. I've regarded the puukko as a working tool, handy outdoor item and as such never been drawn to having an expensive Custom made, whereas pocket-knives....There certainly is a shed load of pedantic bickering amongst certain 'experts' about what is a real puukko and it's often tedious. Like in the Classic Car world where monster egos monster each other
I've been to the Kauhava puukko festivals in June and some of the dealers sell ordinary stuff, others are custom makers and some are friendly but others dour, and seem to harbour dislikes of each other on a petty scale. Not been since covid so I'm not even sure if it still takes place.
I've been more than pleased with the Marttiini and Kauhavan knives I've had, inexpensive, decent and handle well. Others, particularly abroad, may thirst for more elaborate puukko or rare historical ones, all good, all part of the joy of knife ownership and use, something that often gets forgotten.
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Mini Puukko and other small friends for a lightweight hikeThese pocket puukkot are a useful carry nevertheless, especially in town.
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Another "Jewel" you found! JohnFound this at the local flea market for 15,- euros: a miniature leuku made as business gift for the Finnish forest company Kemi Oy, prior to 1993.
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Total lenght is 15 cm, carbon steel blade is 5,5 cm, no maker´s stamp, reindeer antler handle.
From my experiences recently, ordering from outside the US is not a problem. You'll get an invoice from the shipper (FEDEX, UPS, DHL or whoever) as separate bill for what ever customs duties you owe either before or after delivery depending on when payment is due. Check with the seller before you buy.L lambertiana It's around the size of an open GEC 15 Just about 13cm/5.25". Blade 6cm/ 2 3/8". Maker Kauhavan puukkopajaa. Reindeer antler/Curly Birch. Other handles available but don't know if hey can send to the USA now with all this cusoms fiasco etc.
L lambertiana It's around the size of an open GEC 15 Just about 13cm/5.25". Blade 6cm/ 2 3/8". Maker Kauhavan puukkopajaa. Reindeer antler/Curly Birch. Other handles available but don't know if hey can send to the USA now with all this cusoms fiasco etc.
From what I can see, buying a single knife would fall under the de minimis rule, so does not fall under the IEEPA tarrifs as long as its under $800. So, it looks like the flat 15% import duty would apply, which would be collected at time of entry and paid buy the buyer. Guidance was just issued, once its properly disseminated there should be no problem with shipping to the US.A Arathol Thanks for the info. Problem is that ALL EU Post Offices have suspended delivering packets to the USA from last September due to the tariff uncertainty. I cannot send anybody in the US any packet now, so no more trades or selling to the US , puts the block on collecting. Stuff FROM the US to the EU is delivered OK but there are tariffs on this too. So if somebody wanted to buy a knife from a Euro dealer it would probably be sent via very expensive courier, but it's worth e-mailing dealers to see if they have arrangements of some sort, individuals don't.


I wouldn't have any worries about the strength of that one no - unless really extreme tasks are envisaged, beyond rational useWill Power I am constantly realizing how little I know, in general, along with the fact that there is so much depth, even in the seemingly simplest of things.
Regarding shipping packages to and from Europe, I've completely hit the brakes. I've read about many instances of people paying 4-5 x the original amount for something due to 'brokerage fees' charged by carriers, which are far and away more than the actual tariff. For now, I'm sourcing from the US.
In regards to the puukko, I am extremely impressed with Kauhaven Puukkopaja. Now I am uncertain if this particular specimen is actually a puukko or something else? The handle is shaped a bit differently. Also, I was initially concerned about the handle being weak due to the hidden tang which does not extend through the end of the handle.
From all reports that I can find, modern epoxy is incredibly strong, stronger than the wood handle itself, so there shouldn't be much worry. I don't plan on abusing the knife, so I'm sure it won't be pushed to its limits, at least not by me.
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From what I can see, buying a single knife would fall under the de minimis rule, so does not fall under the IEEPA tarrifs as long as its under $800. So, it looks like the flat 15% import duty would apply, which would be collected at time of entry and paid buy the buyer. Guidance was just issued, once its properly disseminated there should be no problem with shipping to the US.
No, its still suspended, a new order continuing the suspension was issued on 2/20.The de minimis rule is back in place? It was suspended last August. I have been paying duties on medications ordered from abroad, plus the above noted brokerage fees.
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Excellent to see you back, albeit under a modified namePicked this up a few days ago...an excellent condition Tapio Wirkkala (Designed 1961) "Puukko" knife with the original sheath. Produced by Hackman, Finland. I had another one once, bought relatively cheaply at a gun show. Halfway through dressing a deer with it, the blade fell off, and I realized that someone had already broken the blade and had then simply glued it back in place. No wonder it was so cheap. But for the brief time I used it on that deer, I was very impressed with it as the near-perfect ergonomic tool for that job, and I have cleaned way more deer than I can remember. So I always wanted another, but they were hard to find, especially for anything like a reasonable price. I traded an old scope for this one. (Note, I used to be robinpeck, member since 2001, but the other day I couldn't get it to work no matter what I tried, and I had to rejoin with a new name.)
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