The Rule of Fours

[batosai117]

If you don't know your limits no rule will Apply to you.
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To know your limits, you need to do things that in reality don't want to do..........................



Because you ass is on the line.

That reminds me of that CRKT mark on some of their lineup: 1* (one asterisk)

The rule of 3's or 4's to me is just a guideline for those who panic and don't know how to get out of panic mode. It helps you remember things that you easily forget when put under stress, disorientation, and just plain old freaking out. I know I'm late coming into this thread, but that's my take on it having not gone through every post

 

[SouthernCross]

G'day J's K-N-M

....The rule of 3's or 4's to me is just a guideline for those who panic and don't know how to get out of panic mode. It helps you remember things that you easily forget when put under stress, disorientation, and just plain old freaking out. I know I'm late coming into this thread, but that's my take on it having not gone through every post

Bolded emphasis added by myself.

IMO, you have hit the nail on the head :thumbup::thumbup:

Since most people in this modern world don't have extensive experience in the wild, the thought of an unexpected extended stay can become a source of panic.

Does any one really believe that someone who knows how to live with the land and has the experience to do it, would really panic if they have an extended stay and therefore need guidelines / rules to tell them what is needed?

Personally I don't think so.

Maybe this is the point that Bushman5 was trying to make?

Bear in mind that those who seek the services (ie "survival courses") or advice of "survival gurus" who espouse the rules of 3/4/5 etc are those who are interested in learning how to do it.

Those who who know from experience what's required in their environment already know what's required and don't need reminders



Kind regards
Mick

 

[demoteamone]

guideline for those who panic and don't know how to get out of panic mode. It helps you remember things that you easily forget when put under stress, disorientation, and just plain old freaking out.

Really...how you accomplish that?
Let me take a aguess by go in for picnic on the woods

 

[Rick Marchand]

G'day J's K-N-M


Bolded emphasis added by myself.

IMO, you have hit the nail on the head :thumbup::thumbup:

Since most people in this modern world don't have extensive experience in the wild, the thought of an unexpected extended stay can become a source of panic.

Does any one really believe that someone who knows how to live with the land and has the experience to do it, would really panic if they have an extended stay and therefore need guidelines / rules to tell them what is needed?

Personally I don't think so.

Maybe this is the point that Bushman5 was trying to make?

Bear in mind that those who seek the services (ie "survival courses") or advice of "survival gurus" who espouse the rules of 3/4/5 etc are those who are interested in learning how to do it.

Those who who know from experience what's required in their environment already know what's required and don't need reminders



Kind regards
Mick

I have to respectfully disagree, Mick. This may be true in your experience but not in mine.

Folding under stress?... YES!... it happens.... Another longtime student of my mentor confided in me that he panicked, cried and was falling over himself after being lost for only 2hrs!!! This guy has been SERIOUSLY studying wilderness survival for nearly a decade. The human mind is an unpredictable thing. He related that he was "caught off guard" and that spending a night (or more) in a cold swamp was the last thing he wanted to do. He ended up finding a cabin. He lost his shoes, his feet were cut up pretty bad and he was absolutely filthy from pushing through the muskeg. My mentor tells me this is a COMMON thing he ran across in SAR. Well prepared, TRAINED folks "losing it" under stress.

I remember when I was training for the Sabaki bare knuckle fighting circuit... we were in tip-top shape.... nerves of steel. I no longer saw it as fighting(survival). It had become a game of chess. We started experimenting with mental strategy (mind games) to see if we could gain a psychological advantage over an opponent. We found that unexpected stimuli (laughing, yelling, clapping, sneezing... even smiling) would open "holes" in their defence. At one point, I spit in the face of my sparring partner (we were really trying to throw eachother off... lol) and he essentially "shutdown". He said that he quite literally froze and all instinct went right of the window. Experience counted for nothing at that point. You have to accept the possibility that when the time comes, you may have to battle yourself. There is no defence against a sucker punch... it's those precious moments after, that dictate the outcome.

Drilling the most basic survival "building blocks" into your head may save your skin when advanced thinking is impared.

Rick

 

[Rotte]

Good points Rick. Mental preparation may be the most important piece of kit to bring along. The key to dealing with the proverbial sucker punch. Thus the first rule of 3's is to keep oxygen flowing to the mental hardware.