In response to "onehandclapping" assertion that BM makes the highest quality overall production knife, I just had to say I disagree. Chris Reeve certainly beats the tar out of them (of course, you pay through the nose, too), and so does Spyderco, particularly in the heat treatment. I've never owned a Benchmade that held an edge as well as it should, given the price and materials used. Spyderco's have always outperformed, and outlasted them, IMO. I've been collecting production knives for about 20 years, and when it comes to underachievement, and lopsided quality/price ratio, Benchmade comes in at the bottom of the list. They have great designs, and some outstanding folding knife mechanisms, but of the ones I've handled, none lived up to expectations, and if you look carefully, a lot of the folders don't even sit centered in the frame. Out of the 15 or so Spydercos I've owned, I've only had that problem out of one (the Stretch, which I later traded to a friend who didn't mind).