The Shovel Discussion Thread!

I enjoy this thread, and i like old shovels, but i don't seem to find many so I'm not posting here hardly at all. I have a champion tooth saw with a faint etch. I cannot, even after scouring the internet for days, find an example that it matches. So in light of that here a few paper ads i thought I'd share from a couple lesser known (i think) shovel manufacturers from a 1903 hardware magazine. 20190427_193542.jpg 20190427_193646.jpg 20190427_194053.jpg
Maybe somebody's ol' markings make sense now!
 
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Easier on the wrist. The stock thickness in the Hori Hori and the lack of finger guards add up to repetitive injury fatigue. The Lesche hand digger is worth every nickel. Hori Hori is still ok in soft black loam but get into clayish or packed soil and the Lesche is the way to go. Tough as nails and lowers fatigue.

Thanks. I added it to my wish list. I will have one soon.
 
Here is a small shovel I picked up at a yard sale the other day for cheap.

The handle says Bolton & Johnson. The shovel portion says Wyoming Red Edge. The steel where the handle goes in the socket says Pacific.

The words Johnson, and Pacific aren't entirely legible, and there is something before Pacific that I can't read. Could be a Union Pacific coal shovel. The d handle might not be original. I don't know if Bolton and Johnson, and Wyoming Red Edge are associated.

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Looks bullet proof. I'm not surprised it survived.
 
I picked this shovel up for $35 at an antique store today. I couldn't believe it's condition! I'm pretty sure whatever markings it had when new are still there. I can't identify the maker though? "WB" in a box then "sanderson best steel" 5
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On the top of the handle- 42(inches) and to the right a letter D;
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Anyone know what company this is??
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And, for markings, lastly the letters D and S and "steel" stamped inside the shovel near where the rivets are located;
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Here's just some random pics.
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I tried to take some close up ones that would show its condition;
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A lot of pics I know. I'm happy to have one in such good shape. I figure it must be pretty rare to find one in almost unused condition! I'm happy to share it with you guys! I'm hoping someone recognizes the maker? Also any thoughts on age?? Thanks all!
 
Thank you for posting that. It really does look just like the bottom right hand one. Any idea what WB would stand for? Would sanderson be their source for steel? I guess I'm not the best internet sleuth.... I'll keep looking anyhow!
 
Sanderson was an English company who began making steel in the us after buying sweet iron works in1876. Here are some quotes I found in the subject. I'm still looking for who or what WB is.


"A number of steel companies have operated in Syracuse, maintaining Crucible's intellectual property and patents.[7] In 1870, William A. Sweet founded the Sweet Iron Works. Sanderson Brothers of Sheffield, England, bought the Sweet Iron Works for U.S. production in 1876, renaming the steelworksSanderson. In 1900, Sanderson's Syracuse steelworks merged into the Crucible Steel Company of America.[13] In 1946 the Sanderson and Halcomb steelworks were renamed the Sanderson-Halcomb Works, later becoming the Syracuse Works of Crucible Steel. In 1968, Crucible became Colt's Crucible Specialty Metals Division. Colt consolidated its basic-materials group into the Crucible Materials Corporation in 1983.

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1776: The Naylor and Sanderson Steel Mill was established in Sheffield, England, and began producing tool steel with the crucible method.[13] By 1873 it was trading as Sanderson Brothers and Company, and using a gas-fired-crucible melting furnace.[16]

In 1876 Sanderson Brothers and Company bought Sweet Iron Works, which had been established in 1870 in Syracuse.[17] Sheffield was known for its hard, durable steel, and Syracuse was known for its hard steel. Contemporary U.S. tariffs gave Sanderson an incentive for a U.S. operation.[8] In 1878, Sanderson had $450,000 in capital and the following officers: Robert B. Campbell of New York, president; Samuel William Johnson of New York, secretary and William A. Sweet of Syracuse, general manager.[17]

In 1900, thirteen crucible-steel manufacturing companies formed the Crucible Steel Company of America. Sanderson divested itself of its American operation, offering 500,000 shares of stock for $50 million.[15][18]Crucible's fifth annual report (published in 1905) showed debts of $3.6 million, $2.4 million less than the year before."
 
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However the Sanderson name in steel has been around from (what an awesome year to start a company) -1776-1991. So that doesn't help at all in determining the age of my shovel... . Furthermore none of the owners, presidents or anyone else for that matter had the initials WB. Could've easily been an amalgamation of several names but who knows?! The search continues!

Edit; Thanks ITVD! I found that resource yesterday but in skimming through it I missed that... I'll go look again!
 
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A shovel I’ve had a long time branded “National”, I can’t find anything on this make, it sort of sounds like it’s a U.S make with that name.
Anyone heard of National?

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