The Slip Joint Conundrum...

I've seriously been eyeing one of those FP Laguiles the past few weeks. Can I ask how you typically tote it around when you do?
Glad to help. The FP Laguiole I purchased is the 10cm offering. It's not too big to toss in the pocket, about 3.5" and pretty pocket friendly. I do use a pocket slip or belt pouch most of the time, depending on the day. The extra seconds to get it out of the slip or pouch is something I don't find to be a problem, maybe because I carry a sheath knife fairly often too.
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I love traditionals (as well as moderns), and I've no doubt that a slipjoint can and has built many an emergency shelter in the woods. Still, I have to wonder if the gentleman in the video isn't having a good laugh with this? There are things in the video that don't seem to add up...? Some appear staged or pre-arranged, to me.

I realized I might get flamed for suggesting this, so I went back and watched certain sections of the video again. There is a dead giveaway that frame removal or stop action is used to manipulate what we are seeing! You can see some weeds blowing in the wind - but they don't move slowly or even blurred - you can actually see the weeds 'jumping' erratically across the screen! This means that 'frame removal' was used - as a former amateur filmmaker, I'm very familiar with this process. (Stop action is another method of doing something very similar, but based on what we see, I think frame removal is much more likely). We used it to speed things up - for example, fight scenes. We would film with the actors moving fairly slowly, then remove selected frames to make it appear that they were moving much faster than they were, creating an 'action sequence' - you can use the same processes to make things 'appear' and 'disappear'.

UPDATE: I went back again and watched the video on YouTube, and there in the comments the guy that made the video admits it's a joke. Here is what he had to say when called out on it:

"Foiled again! Would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for those da--ed kids! Thanks Nick. I have said it before, but it annoys me when people knock folding knives.I still don't know who started this nonsense or why."

I really enjoyed the video above. The guy put a lot of effort into making his valid point. Funny how he kept disappearing every time he stepped into the trees but always came out flashing his little worthy knife.
 
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Well folks, meet my first Case knife. At least my first one in 35 or 40 years so we'll just go with first. :)

I will say the scales are very different from side to side but this is a user so it's fine.

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People seem to get their britches in a bunch about blade centering but for me, modern or traditional, I could care less. So long as the blade doesn't rub, I don't care. But since it seems to be a thing here we go...
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Overall, it's made a wonderful first impression. I freaking love the feel of it. The size is great and even though I'll be putting my own edge on it, the factory edge isn't bad at all.
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Time to start planning my next one. And, now my wife wants a Case too so gotta get that sorted out.

Thanks again all.
 
Well folks, meet my first Case knife. At least my first one in 35 or 40 years so we'll just go with first. :)

I will say the scales are very different from side to side but this is a user so it's fine.

IMG_20190107_151526948_zpsoevljq40.jpg


IMG_20190107_151542311_zps4aqwk6rh.jpg


People seem to get their britches in a bunch about blade centering but for me, modern or traditional, I could care less. So long as the blade doesn't rub, I don't care. But since it seems to be a thing here we go...
IMG_20190107_151610298_zpsagy9xzol.jpg


Overall, it's made a wonderful first impression. I freaking love the feel of it. The size is great and even though I'll be putting my own edge on it, the factory edge isn't bad at all.
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Time to start planning my next one. And, now my wife wants a Case too so gotta get that sorted out.

Thanks again all.
Congrats and welcome to the addiction. A Case Copperlock is a nice first step.
 
UPDATE: Again, thank you all for weighing in and being patient in answering my questions here and in a couple other threads.

So I've been carrying my Buck 389 since I started this thread and have been very pleased. I did have a slight buckle pulling through an apple wedge the other day. Nothing big, but reminded me I was carrying a slip joint and admittedly not one with the heaviest spring. But I've been loving it. My fingers keep feeling for the clipped knife tucked in the corner of my pocket (a decades old habit) but I'm fully reminded of the beauty in simplicity of these knives. Not just the designs, but the steels. I love being able to get a keen edge quickly and the super steel bug is not for me.

I've been pouring through designs and sooooo many of them talked to me! I really dig the canoe pattern. I like the size, the feel and the two blades on opposite ends. But man, I love the medium Stockman for it's diversity. And the Barlow and the teardrop and the Lionsteel offerings and...

Now, I'm a long, long fan of back locks. They are my absolute favorite folding knife style going back to old Buck 110's and Schrade Old Timers to modern Spyderco's. For so long I've been buying and trying all these different knives trying to find something to scratch that itch. I even had a back and forth with Sal Glesser about purging the finger choil and looking to the 110 for inspiration. I carried a little Buck MiniBuck for years in the military. I tied 550 cord to it and secure it to my belt loop.

So, when I saw the Case Copperlock and Mini Copperlock, I was hooked. I've been looking at various offerings by various makers and am downright giddy. Why didn't I come back to these brands years ago???

Tonight I ordered a Case amber bone Mini Copperlock and I am very excited for it to get here. I know this thread started as a slip joint discussion and I ended up with a locking knife but rest assured, slip joints will be forthcoming. I'm over my concerns about them.

Someone along the way said something about discovering the freedom of these knives. Yes. That is exactly correct.

So more to come as time goes on. I've loved checking out what you all have going here in this little corner and look forward to participating in the future. :)
I have a mini copperlock in amber bone, and it is flawless. Theyre really great knives :) and a good bridge between modern and traditional. I think youll like it. Also, if you want a french knife.....check out Opinels. Theyre friction folders, but theyre pretty great. Very simple, they lock and they cut like crazy. Also..
Welcome to the Porch! This has been a great thread, thanks everybody.
 
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You can't go wrong with amber bone, one of my favorite cover materials.
Nice knife. I assume it's stainless. Was that part of your decision? If so, reading your other thread on steel choice, I think you made the right decision.
Have fun with it!
 
I had a Case Tribal lockback that needed to be sent back just to ease the lock but that was a free and fast service and an excellent knife.

Eli Chaps Considering this - "Time to start planning my next one. And, now my wife wants a Case too so gotta get that sorted out." Maybe, give her this one with the mismatched scales and go for a more perfect user. Just a thought. :rolleyes:
It's a nice one even as it is.

Ray
 
You can't go wrong with amber bone, one of my favorite cover materials.
Nice knife. I assume it's stainless. Was that part of your decision? If so, reading your other thread on steel choice, I think you made the right decision.
Have fun with it!

It is stainless and yes it was a factor in the decision. I've reconciled my "slip joint issues" but the carbon steel hang up lingers. :)
 
I had a Case Tribal lockback that needed to be sent back just to ease the lock but that was a free and fast service and an excellent knife.

Eli Chaps Considering this - "Time to start planning my next one. And, now my wife wants a Case too so gotta get that sorted out." Maybe, give her this one with the mismatched scales and go for a more perfect user. Just a thought. :rolleyes:
It's a nice one even as it is.

Ray

Yeah, I gave that a shot last night. I whipped the little Mini Copperlock out of my pocket last night during a "I want my own knife talk" that she initiated but she didn't bite. She likes the knife but she thinks she'd like something in red or maybe blue.

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Yeah, I gave that a shot last night. I whipped the little Mini Copperlock out of my pocket last night during a "I want my own knife talk" that she initiated but she didn't bite. She likes the knife but she thinks she'd like something in red or maybe blue.

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Maybe offer to try the new case barlow in blue saw cut
 
It is stainless and yes it was a factor in the decision. I've reconciled my "slip joint issues" but the carbon steel hang up lingers. :)
Just my 2 cents on the matter here... Carbon steel really isnt a big deal. I actually prefer it. I live right next to a salt marsh, on a farm near the chesapeake bay. Im an outdoorsman and use carbon steel almost every day. The only issues I have ever had was when I was doing farm work in summer, when it would rust a bit in my sweaty pocket all day. Just let it patina, oil it lightly when you get around to it and wipe stuff off the blade after use. Its easy.
As far as the benefits of it, carbon is much easier to sharpen than even basic stainless steels in my experience. Plus I like the edge holding and the look of a good patina. But it can be a bit intimidating making the switch, and youll worry about rust way more than you should. Lol
Case tru sharp isnt too shabby though. Its no super steel, but it sharpens well. And it holds a good edge. Its tough, tends to roll instead of chipping. And it is a really pretty option from Case with that high polish that wont tarnish to grey like the CV will. I prefer Tru sharp on showy knives.
 

Traditional knives are more capable than people think. You can get a top of the line production traditional for a fraction of the price of a top of the line modern folder.

I like some moderns. For my purposes, carrying a modern folder is like driving a farrarri in bumper to bumper traffic. Plus, I like the soul of a traditional.
Ive got to the party a little late but here goes . Really enjoyed that video of the guy making an A frame basha using mainly a small slipjoint knife to help cut and gather materials for the whole build ! Having instructed on survival courses many times in the distant past mainly with the Army the first thing I learned was you do really need a half decent ( ideally bushcraft style knife ) with a good sharp blade BUT it doesnt have to be any type of oversized knife as the guy in the video demonstrated ! back in the early 80s when I was getting into the survival / bushcraft game many students on courses turned up with big style Rambo knives etc which proved for different reasons not to be up to the job ! In my personal opinion a half decent 4" bladed bushcraft knife made with well forged and heat treated steel and a full tang handle is more than adequate to deal with the general tasks in hand for shelter building cutting and preparing meat etc . Unless you have a bergan / backpack full of everything you need to survive then improvisation is the name of the game and the British army of the 70s and 80s were the masters of this making do attitude ( The French say Demerdez Vous ) . What people dont understand is , when you are working as hard as that guy in the video especially preparing a campsite area , you are using a great deal of energy and if you then have to start foraging for food and other tasks your energy levels fall fairly rapidly ! What Im trying to say is though watching him using his small slipjoint shows what can be achieved with the tools you,ve got to hand .
 
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