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The Stove Conundrum - Observations & Thoughts

The jetboil concept just never appealed to me, same with the MSR equivalent model. Great concept in efficiency, just don't like be locked into the integrated pot. I recognize the performance advantages of doing so.

Likewise, I've never been comfortable with those canister stoves that require you to buy canisters. The propane ones being the exception because I can find them anywhere. I recognize the cannisters are great fuel delivery systems but their lack of wide consumer availability is problematic. I believe that mail order delivery of fuel cannisters is not allowed because of the hazards posed by the material. So you have to have a local store that supplies them. The cannisters by used by the higher end brands are infrequently available in most general sporting good stores, the kind you find in smaller towns etc. So even that stove system might be efficient and a great way to go, I just don't want to buy into it if I can't get my hands on the fuel easily. Same thing goes for exotic batteries in flashlights. They work better but are not easy to replace.
 
kgd said:
The jetboil concept just never appealed to me, same with the MSR equivalent model. Great concept in efficiency, just don't like be locked into the integrated pot. I recognize the performance advantages of doing so.

Likewise, I've never been comfortable with those canister stoves that require you to buy canisters. The propane ones being the exception because I can find them anywhere. I recognize the cannisters are great fuel delivery systems but their lack of wide consumer availability is problematic. I believe that mail order delivery of fuel cannisters is not allowed because of the hazards posed by the material. So you have to have a local store that supplies them. The cannisters by used by the higher end brands are infrequently available in most general sporting good stores, the kind you find in smaller towns etc. So even that stove system might be efficient and a great way to go, I just don't want to buy into it if I can't get my hands on the fuel easily. Same thing goes for exotic batteries in flashlights. They work better but are not easy to replace.
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sounds like you should have a go with a bushbuddy ken :)

no moving parts, no canisters, flexible pots, quiet, and who could resist lighting a real fire to cook over :D
 
I have a Snow Peak Giga Power. I've never boiled water and timed it. It can cook a jar of Bush's chili in abour 5 minutes at a low-medium flame. Raman Noodles take a little longer.

I like cooking over a camp fire more. I've been thinking of buying some titanium wire, maybe 2mm thick, and bending up a packable grill.

Of course, there may already be something available.
 
After trying a lot of stoves, I settled on the Coleman one burner white gas stove that fits in it's kettle to carry. Yes it is a little bigger than I would like for light weight gear, but after weighing the pros and cons, It won out and if it means I have to lighten up somewhere else, so be it. I can fill it once and it will cook for about three average weekend trips.
 
wulfshrunting said:
I have a Snow Peak Giga Power. I've never boiled water and timed it. It can cook a jar of Bush's chili in abour 5 minutes at a low-medium flame. Raman Noodles take a little longer.

I like cooking over a camp fire more. I've been thinking of buying some titanium wire, maybe 2mm thick, and bending up a packable grill.

Of course, there may already be something available.
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how do ya like my chili? :D :p

still haven't left yet for the woods ramble.......got all packed by 0530 hours, made a big mess tin full of beans and pork , chowed down and fell asleep until 1230 hours.......:D
 
I have done that a few times too. I have also slept in my tree stand while herds of game dance by. NO I never have fallen out of the stand. YET.:D
 
I always pull out the ol' Coleman Feather white gas stove. It's small, dependable, self-contained and fairly light. http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___85208

Roland Mueser did a survey of through hikers on the AT about camp stove reliability. If you can find it, it might make your choice of stoves easier. Some stoves had failure rates as high as 15%-17%. (Most reliable? Alcohol stoves like the Trangia -- 0% failures.)

Stay sharp,
desmobob
 
desmobob said:
I always pull out the ol' Coleman Feather white gas stove. It's small, dependable, self-contained and fairly light. http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___85208

Roland Mueser did a survey of through hikers on the AT about camp stove reliability. If you can find it, it might make your choice of stoves easier. Some stoves had failure rates as high as 15%-17%. (Most reliable? Alcohol stoves like the Trangia -- 0% failures.)

Stay sharp,
desmobob
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Good stove - only issue is weight 24oz + pots 9oz = 33oz or 2lbs 1 oz
I have a bruton raptor and the Bruton IP pots - about 14oz
 
I'm currently using a SP Giga canister stove- boils fast, easy to use, reliable and light- nests (stove & canister) nicely in a SP 700 pot (solo) or a 900 (w/ wife)

I'm thinking about trying the Tri-Ti stove- can use wood, alcohol or esbit- comes w/ a windscreen and all nesting in your pot (certain pots anyways)- pretty neat idea and from the reviews I've read- pretty decent stove

http://www.traildesigns.com/caldera-tt.html
 
i always pack my zelph stove with a bottom pan and windscreen and a small squiter of HEET....enough to boil 12cups of water. it fits nicely into my Ti Cup.....doesnt weigh much and uses better fuel than ISO.
 
I've been using an msr pocket rocket this summer. It's worked great for me and hasn't seem to be very fuel hungry. The only thing i dont like about it is the same problem that any other canister stove has, but so far i've managed not to dump any dinners.
 
I don't know why, but I find stoves to be really neato.

My most used stove probably has been my Coleman Feather 442. It was my first, and only years. It has been used in all seasons, and has never let me down.

My most used stove in recent years has been a Markhill Hot Shot canister stove:
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The Hot Shot boils 2 cups of water pretty quick, has an auto ignitor, and it fits with a fuel canister in my Snow Peak Trek 700 mug (with the lid in place, too). It's been a good little stove.
 
kgd said:
I have an MSR whisperlite that seems to do well. Lasts pretty good on the fuel if you use it conservatively. Things I don't like...<snip>....Not the most stable legs in the world but it helps if you take time to stablize it before you light it up.
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You need one of these. I've used one with my Whisperlite for years and it makes it much more convenient. You can even move the stove around while it's lit.
 
I just got back from a three-day trip with a buddy. I decided to bring my Swedish surplus mess kit/cook set to see how it would work out for two people for a few days.

I had replaced the original mil-surp Svea burner with a modern Trangia Spirit Burner... same thing, really; just a bit smaller and lighter (but with less fuel capacity).
I was very pleased with the performance of the little Trangia Spirit!

The few times I tried to boil the kit's pot full of water, I had to refill the stove once, but it boiled the big pot full in surprisingly little time. And honestly, I probably just plain did not put enough fuel in the burner. Boiling smaller amounts for coffee/tea/cooking was a snap, and the Trangia comes with a "simmer ring" so you can control the flame and reduce the heat. I headed out with the stove full (two ounces?) and a small bottle (the one that came with the Swedish mess kit) full of denatured alcohol. It was JUST enough fuel for two days of morning coffee, cooking dinner, and purifying some water for two people, but we could have easily supplemented the use of the Trangia with some campfire cooking, which we didn't.

I'd say I'm pretty impressed with the thing and will definitely carry it alone as an ultra-light alternative, or with the mess kit/windscreen/pot support as a system.

I'm kind of surprised I don't hear more about these neat little burners.

Stay sharp,
desmobob
 
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