The Tri-ad Lock Patent Expires in December [Wrong Info]

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Lapedog said:
20 years should give a company enough time to set up a good reputation in whatever field its patent is in.

If we look at the Axis Lock alot of people are still going to go to BM if they want an axis lock since they are the known player in that area of lock design. Some people won’t but BM has had a long time to build up loyal customers desiring an axis lock.
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And they still get to call it an "Axis Lock." Trademarks don't expire, ever. Which means that no one can legally advertise or call their Axis-type locks by that name except BM. It's worth a ton to BM.
 
I got nothing against frame lock flippers , but I wouldn't mind something like a Tri-ad from the new wave China makers . :cool::thumbsup:
 
DocJD said:
Never said it was . Instead of simply resting on their laurels forever . When patents run out they have to come up with new stuff . OK ? :rolleyes:
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And everyone else doesn't . Just copy what the successful company did .

If only those counterfeiters were justified in their counterfeiting for all those years , legit companies would have to come up with something better !
 
DocJD said:
I got nothing against frame lock flippers , but I wouldn't mind something like a Tri-ad from the new wave China makers . :cool::thumbsup:
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They would have seemed to me to be the likeliest candidates to me except that it was Hogue (H&K) and Massdrop that were the first to come out with the first legal Axis-style locks.
 
SpySmasher said:
They would have seemed to me to be the likeliest candidates to me except that it was Hogue (H&K) and Massdrop that were the first to come out with the first legal Axis-style locks.
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I always wondered why no one gave Shiro flak for using the Axis lock on their Tabargan and some of their 111 models.
 
Lapedog said:
I do agree that the Scorpion lock seems like it would truly benefit from being gripped. I often tend to disagree with the assertion that gripping framelocks does much to aid the lockup. On some models it seems to and on others the lock falls into the crook of my fingers where little force is applied. It seems to depend on the grip I am using and the design of the knife.

He could always use some elastics to simulate a moderate grip on the scorpion lock while testing it.
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I like the safety some models with the scorpion lock have. I doubt many people ever use it, but it's nice to have anyway. I can't imagine one failing with the safety on.
 
jstn said:
I like the safety some models with the scorpion lock have. I doubt many people ever use it, but it's nice to have anyway. I can't imagine one failing with the safety on.
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Oh, that's true. I never use the thing so I forgot it was there.
 
stonproject said:
I discovered this a while back. It was a patent granted in 1880 to Bontgen & Sabin for a butterfly knife design.(photo credits go to bernard levine, and balisongcollector.com)

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This was a photo of said companies catalog in 1885

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Obviously the design has changed very little in over 100 years, because there wasn't much to improve upon. Pivot, and hardware systems have been updated, and materials upgraded, but in essence all balisongs today are a copy of this once patented design.
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If only someone would invent a locking mechanism without a spring. :D
 
hexenjager said:
If only someone would invent a locking mechanism without a spring. :D
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You jest but that's thought to be one of the main reasons it surged in popularity in the Philippines, they were simple to craft folding knives that didnt risk closing on your hand.

And not everyone wants to carry a damn fixed blade hexen :D
 
stonproject said:
You jest but that's thought to be one of the main reasons it surged in popularity in the Philippines, they were simple to craft folding knives that didnt risk closing on your hand.

And not everyone wants to carry a damn fixed blade hexen :D
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Maybe they should... :p

I just found it humorous that nobody seemed to notice that a few posts after discussion on a springless lock there was info from the 1880's about literally "the springless wonder" pocket knife.
 
I would like to see a folder with ZT 0909 blade and Cold Steel Recon 1 handle. Does not matter whether it is manufactured by KIA or Cold Steel.
 
sharp_edge said:
I would like to see a folder with ZT 0909 blade and Cold Steel Recon 1 handle. Does not matter whether it is manufactured by KIA or Cold Steel.
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Are we talking with a Triad Lock too? If so, I would be all over that. Or even just a 909 with a Triad lock!
 
jstn said:
Are we talking with a Triad Lock too? If so, I would be all over that. Or even just a 909 with a Triad lock!
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Yeah by "CS Recon 1 handle" I mean both the ergo, the g10, and the tri ad lock although a less pocket-destroying clip would be much preferred. One thing I am not much high about ZT 090 is the use of a liner lock on such a heavy duty knife.
 
I like a "tight" back lock but I don't need the strength of Tri-Ad. I want reliability. I like a lockbar that engages deeply. No blade play.
Spyderco's Manix 2 backlock is well engineered. Same with the Native 5 although lockbar engagement isn't as deep. Chaparral even uses an internal stop.
Spyderco's Seki lockbacks don't have as tight tolerances. I still like them.
Don't forget about Spyderco's PowerLock which also uses a stop pin and is rock solid on the Chinook 4 and Tatanka.
 
Doesn't interest me in the least. Back locks are OK; I have a lot of them. I have no need for anything stronger than say . . . a 110 or a Spyderco back lock. I have many Triad Lock Cold Steel knives and I very often wind up taking it apart to improve its ease of use or I over travel the release lever from outside the handle to make the release friendly rather than an endurance contest.
So yeah . . . what ever.
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I pretty much exclusively use the Tri-ad daily for work and of these models - Recon 1, Voyager, Code 4, Frenzy, Bush Ranger, Counter point, Talwar and Ultimate Hunter - every single one of them is so easy to close it takes zero thought. Press the back lock and it free falls perfectly onto your finger and then closes perfectly like in the gif i made below of my Recon. I've only ever seen stiff locks on the Hold out series, everything else has been smooth and easy. But in production knives sometimes you get differences and lemons.
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craytab said:
And everyone else doesn't . Just copy what the successful company did .

If only those counterfeiters were justified in their counterfeiting for all those years , legit companies would have to come up with something better !
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You think the fakes should be "justified " ? Now I'm actually confused ! :confused:
 
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