The Urban B.O.B

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Hey guys, I know alot of us have bug out bags, survival kits and packs tailored for wilderness survival, but how many have more urban loadouts? By this I mean stuff that is more tailored to survival in the chance of a major earthquake, flood or anything else that could shut down major systems and services in an urban environment.
What kind of gear do you keep in it? What kinds of situations are you set to face? What kind of bag do you keep it all in?
 
I'm planning to have all these by the end of mid-year 2011. Some I already ordered or have. I got started like only two weeks ago, and I'm unemployed. :o

The gear is mainly set to face 1 / 2 days of chaos or disorder. Who knows what lies ahead.

I know I'm missing a lot, but it's almost 1:30 AM and I'm brain-dead.

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  • ESEE Junglas Laserna Pack (Ordered) Main Bag
  • (2) M.O.L.L.E. Leg Rig (Have)
  • Maxpedition Admin Pouch (Want)
  • (3) Double M4 Mag Sized M.O.L.L.E. pouches (Have)
  • US Army FLC M.O.L.L.E. webbing Vest (Have)

Tools / Weapons

  • ESEE-5 Serrated Glass Breaker (Want)
  • Sabre Pepper Spray (Have)
  • Light Baton (Want)
  • ESEE Izula w/ Scales (Ordered)
  • Victorinox SAK Huntsman (Ordered)
  • Mini-Zip Ties (Have)
  • ESEE FireStarter (Have)
  • Beretta 92FS (Want)
  • Beretta 92FS Hi-Cap 32 Rd. Magazines (Want)
  • Any type of silencer designed for the 92FS (Want)
  • XXX Rds. of 9X19MM. (Want)

Miscellaneous

  • First Aid Kit (Have)
  • Alcohol Swabs (Have)
  • Prescription Pain Relievers (Have)
  • M.R.E. Rations 2 Days (Have)
  • 5 Bottles of Water (Have)
 
I’ve been located in some urban areas in the past. Once you identify the most likely threats, either fire, smoke, terrorist attack, earth quake, flood, riots or what have, you can balance a decent kit taking into account your local ordinances and restrictions. For about a year, I was doing a lot of traveling to several different cities. One of the first things I did was pick up a decent map for navigating and identifying alternate routes. Somebody at one point mentioned a topographical map, even for urban areas; in flood prone areas, it’s still good to avoid natural drainage areas and identify the highest ground.

Another aspect is sanitation. In a densely populated area, you really have to focus on potable water, avoiding blood borne pathogens, smoke often will contain chemicals and other contaminants and flooding or any type of societal breakdown will exacerbate the sewage and garbage situation. Having potable water, dust/smoke mask, both leather and latex gloves are prudent additions.

There are a lot of hazards in an urban area; glass, falling debris, ankle-breaking rubble, potential exposed rebar or other metal objects, exposed electrical wiring, dim or unlit areas during power outages, etc.

Of course the about all assumes a situation that occurs without time to react. Getting out an urban area would be a top priority, but you always have to assess weather conditions, traffic and even physical safety before throwing your backpack on and heading down the street. Speaking of hitting the street, if a serious situation did occur, chances are vehicular transportation would most likely be impossible. Having a decent mountain bike or motorcycle (road legal enduro-type) is a very good insurance.

A quick word on “safety”, we often refer to our protective apparatus as Personal Protective Equipment or PPE. These include protection for your eyes, head, hands, feet and even flash fires with fire-retardant clothing. What I like about having a mountain bike is that you can use your biking helmet to avoid falling or flying debris. I would also invest in a decent pair of ballistic-rated eye-wear. Oakley has some decent eyewear that has exchangeable lenses; polarized for day and clear for night. Having clear lenses is essential if you plan to travel at night (urban or rural). I’ve already mentioned gloves, but if you have to dig or maneuver around debris, protecting your hands against sharp metal, concrete, glass, etc. is another essential.

Urban environments can present some serious challenges when trying to navigate, traverse or even when conducting a hasty escape. Vertical obstacles, breaching doors or walls are all realistic challenges. Take a rock climbing course and learn the basics of rappelling. You can rig up a very compact rappel kit to get you down a three or four story building. If you can avoid the legal issues, a decent breaking tool is a good idea. If I was still in a larger city, I would invest in something like the Paratech Beil Tool. What I took with me on a trip to a larger city in Texas was my little TOPS Max the Mini Axe. A multitool should be mandatory for your EDC, but a good set of fencing pliers, mini pry bar, adjustable pliers, insulated handle wire cutters, hack saw, bolt cutters (in the vehicle), etc. Granted, lugging all those around are heavy and could present a problem with law enforcement if they discovered them…it’s all dependent upon your own personal assessment and situation.

Here is a kit I put together and took to work with me. I couldn’t carry a concealed pistol when on duty, but I did have one accessible. Self defense could be a concern, but staying alert and avoiding dangerous situations go a long way to self-preservation. If you can carry a firearm, I would stick with a concealable pistol. During a larger crisis, a rifle or shotgun would just attract unwanted attention. I hiking stick or cane would be a good alternative along with pepper spray or even a taser device would extend the distance for self-defense if needed. The Practical Tactical sub-forum would be a much better location to get an in-depth discussion on low-profile, urban self-defensive tools.

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ROCK6
 
i have a GHB in the truck. it's currently in a very generic tan, civilian daypack, but i'm considering upgrading it to a GI MOLLE pack that i got for a decent price on ebay. i'm working on repacking things and will see.

i keep a change of clothes in the pack, because i've needed clean socks or a fresh shirt on occasion. there's also a knit watch cap and a baseball style had fr use as needed. leather work gloves and fleece gloves. a decent FAK, a large folder (CRKT Hammond Cruiser) and a large fixed blade (Kershaw Outcast) there's water and granola bars, there's a VS17 signal panel, a orange and reflective "safety vest" if i'm stuck on the side of the road to change a tire or whatever, there are some Bic lighters, 550 cord, zip ties, GI poncho, spare G17 mags for the Glock 19, 9mm bore snake, there's a headlight that will soon get upgraded to a newer Fenix light. and one recent addition was a 4 way key for water spigots.

there's a GI M65 field jacket in the back of the truck. and i had a GI fleece jacket, but somehow that got misplaced when i handed it off to mom to mend a small hole. :rolleyes: shoulda lived with the hole. :grumpy:

there are other tools in the truck for repairs and stuff.

i have a swedish mess kit that i need to add to the bag. it has one of the alcohol stoves.

the pack stays in place with a large locking biner thru the handle at the top and then clipped to the headrest in the back seat. keeps it from shifting all over inthe cab.

i'm sure i'm forgetting a few things, but that's a fair portion of it.

ETA: i have a Stanley Fubar is in the truck,and could be stuffed in the GHB if i felt the need for a smash and pry type tool. there are similar tools from other brands.

and +1 on the mobility of a motorcycle or MTB. after the '89 quake i was the only thing moving on the freeway. too many cars couldn't get over a section of road where the pavement shifted, but on a (street) motorcycle i was able to split lanes, and my usual 1 hour commute only took about three times longer than usual. i got OFF the freeway ond onto back roads as soon as i could, but used the freeway for part of the distance.
 
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The gear is mainly set to face 1 / 2 days of chaos or disorder. Who knows what lies ahead.

3 days worth of food and water is probably a good MINIMUM for the "go" gear, but two or three WEEKS worth if a good idea to have on hand at home. while i've seen some lists cite 2wts per day for water, that ain't much in a place with warm weather. i'd say that 1 gal per day is the minimum and that's not leaving you much to wash yourself or do dishes with. 5gal MWCs (GI water cans) are good for storing water at home.


Tools / Weapons

  • Beretta 92FS (Want)
  • Beretta 92FS Hi-Cap 32 Rd. Magazines (Want)
    [*]Any type of silencer designed for the 92FS (Want)

umm... if you're planning on remaining in Kali, the suppressor won't be an option (at least not legally), and the 32rd mag will probably be a pain to get. the "happy sticks" are harder to lug around than standard mags.
 
in urban scenarios most of the same bob for rural would be utilized. my movement would mostly be at night so infrared would be included . if possible i would retrieve a hard head gear worn by bikers & a pry bar would be of great importance. i already have a hand held heat sensor used to locate downed game in darkness .[these are small, lightweight, & inexpensive.] as mentioned nearly all water systems would be contaminated, however most store have bottled h2o. infection would definitely be a concern so all abrasions & cuts would require rapid attention.since i would try to move at nite i would pack my ruger mini 14 along with a snub 38. if we were in a situation of bio-terror a small mask would be desirable--certainly all uncanned foodstuffs would be suspect.i have 2 -16 oz. jars of peanut butter already packed.
dennis
 
Being an urbanite myself I'll be watching this thread closely and am updating my bad as we speak. I originally purchased the Maxpedition Falcon in OD green. However, I am thinking about getting a less tactical looking pack to perhaps not stand out as much. I was looking at some Kelty packs but there are lots out there to choose from.
 
umm... if you're planning on remaining in Kali, the suppressor won't be an option (at least not legally), and the 32rd mag will probably be a pain to get. the "happy sticks" are harder to lug around than standard mags.

In a natural disaster such as the OP is talking about, lawlessness will be rampant; personal defense will be a necessity.
 
What they said. ^

I wouldn't worry about being stopped by an LEO for legal reasons. :rolleyes:
 
I have mine in a 5.11 24 hour pack, as for contents I have all the basics that are in my wilderness bags...

Food (snare wire,energy bars, rat traps)
Water (steel water bottle for boiling, 20 gallon purification straw, chlorine tablets, couple 1 liter 5 year shelf life water cartons in the trunk)
Shelter (tarp/blanket, nylon poncho)
Fire (fire steel, 5x fresnel lens, bic lighter)
First aid kit
headlamp/flashlight
Extra clothes, hygiene kit, zip ties etc etc
etc

However since I'm in an urban environment my main tools are focused more on getting through urban terrain and urban materials aka steel and concrete instead of wood and bush, so...
Wood saw replaced with hack saw + extra blades
19" Gransfors replaced with 18" crowbar
BRKT Aurora and replaced with RC-5 and RMD
SAK Pioneer/Harvester replaced with Swisstool
Dust/medical masks
Springfield XD .45ACP extra clips
depending on need Benelli supernova 12ga or Mak-90
small tool kit
hand cuff key
I'm probably forgetting something since its out in the car right now so I'm just going off of memory, but that's close enough.
 
In a natural disaster such as the OP is talking about, lawlessness will be rampant; personal defense will be a necessity.

personal defense is a daily consideration. even when there isn't a disaster to deal with.

yet, somehow i made it thru the aftermath of a 7.1 quake without needing to shoot anyone. (and the 6.2 a few years before that) :rolleyes:

fortunately, i'm now in a state where EDC CCW is common. :D (and natural disasters are uncommon)
 
I use a Maxpedition LARKSPUR (from the fine lads at DS TACTICAL) messenger bag to hold my EDC gear

Gear:

- 20+ year old well oiled (Obenaufs) WATSON black leather gloves
- CDN FORCES surplus wool mittens
- large OD shemagh (multi use)
- SureFire Saint Minumus headlamp
- SureFire Spares Carrier with 6 SF CR123 lithium batts
- SureFire G2XA 200 lumen tactical light, with SureFire Diffuser lens
- SureFire E2DL 200 lumen/15 lumen tactical light
- ZT0121 fixed blade
- ESEE HEST fixed blade
- SAK GERMAN Army issue pocketknife
- 1 roll blaze orange flagging tape
- 1 roll duct tape
- 1 roll paracord
- FAK (WELL STOCKED)
- hygiene kit (TP, wet wipes, pit stick) need to add alky sanitizer
- 1 Rite In The Rain notebook
- 4 pack SHARPIES, various colors, plus one carpenters pencil
- 4 food bars (powerbar, snickers etc)
- 1 book
- 1 GreenLee voltage detector
- 1 whistle (Storm or Fox)
- sunglasses
- foam ear protectors 3 pack
- Nalgene water bottle. (pre BPA scare, cuz those with common sense realize the chances of BPA infection are ZERO)
- waterproof windbreaker
- keys
- transit passes
- spare money in small bills, plus a whack of change
- Burts Bees lip balm


misc stuff.......

stuff i want to add:

- GPS
- local maps
- pry bar
- bear spray
 
...By this I mean stuff that is more tailored to survival in the chance of a major earthquake, flood or anything else that could shut down major systems and services in an urban environment.

What kind of gear do you keep in it? What kinds of situations are you set to face? What kind of bag do you keep it all in?

Not much difference between a woods bag and a city bag, you still might be sleeping outside and in the elements.

I would worry most about drinkable water, proteection from the environment and bleeding (first aid). Keep equipment to stay warm, dry, healthy and hydrated. Don't worry so much about the rest. Focus on preparing to spend a day or two in your car, in a hotel, or in the woods, you never know where you might end up.
 
If you have a couple of hours to spare :eek:, see nutnfancy's excellent youtube videos on the subject called "Concept U.S.K., Surviving Urban Disaster". Link.
 
I’ve been located in some urban areas in the past. Once you identify the most likely threats, either fire, smoke, terrorist attack, earth quake, flood, riots or what have, you can balance a decent kit taking into account your local ordinances and restrictions. For about a year, I was doing a lot of traveling to several different cities. One of the first things I did was pick up a decent map for navigating and identifying alternate routes. Somebody at one point mentioned a topographical map, even for urban areas; in flood prone areas, it’s still good to avoid natural drainage areas and identify the highest ground.

Another aspect is sanitation. In a densely populated area, you really have to focus on potable water, avoiding blood borne pathogens, smoke often will contain chemicals and other contaminants and flooding or any type of societal breakdown will exacerbate the sewage and garbage situation. Having potable water, dust/smoke mask, both leather and latex gloves are prudent additions.

There are a lot of hazards in an urban area; glass, falling debris, ankle-breaking rubble, potential exposed rebar or other metal objects, exposed electrical wiring, dim or unlit areas during power outages, etc.

Of course the about all assumes a situation that occurs without time to react. Getting out an urban area would be a top priority, but you always have to assess weather conditions, traffic and even physical safety before throwing your backpack on and heading down the street. Speaking of hitting the street, if a serious situation did occur, chances are vehicular transportation would most likely be impossible. Having a decent mountain bike or motorcycle (road legal enduro-type) is a very good insurance.

A quick word on “safety”, we often refer to our protective apparatus as Personal Protective Equipment or PPE. These include protection for your eyes, head, hands, feet and even flash fires with fire-retardant clothing. What I like about having a mountain bike is that you can use your biking helmet to avoid falling or flying debris. I would also invest in a decent pair of ballistic-rated eye-wear. Oakley has some decent eyewear that has exchangeable lenses; polarized for day and clear for night. Having clear lenses is essential if you plan to travel at night (urban or rural). I’ve already mentioned gloves, but if you have to dig or maneuver around debris, protecting your hands against sharp metal, concrete, glass, etc. is another essential.

Urban environments can present some serious challenges when trying to navigate, traverse or even when conducting a hasty escape. Vertical obstacles, breaching doors or walls are all realistic challenges. Take a rock climbing course and learn the basics of rappelling. You can rig up a very compact rappel kit to get you down a three or four story building. If you can avoid the legal issues, a decent breaking tool is a good idea. If I was still in a larger city, I would invest in something like the Paratech Beil Tool. What I took with me on a trip to a larger city in Texas was my little TOPS Max the Mini Axe. A multitool should be mandatory for your EDC, but a good set of fencing pliers, mini pry bar, adjustable pliers, insulated handle wire cutters, hack saw, bolt cutters (in the vehicle), etc. Granted, lugging all those around are heavy and could present a problem with law enforcement if they discovered them…it’s all dependent upon your own personal assessment and situation.

Here is a kit I put together and took to work with me. I couldn’t carry a concealed pistol when on duty, but I did have one accessible. Self defense could be a concern, but staying alert and avoiding dangerous situations go a long way to self-preservation. If you can carry a firearm, I would stick with a concealable pistol. During a larger crisis, a rifle or shotgun would just attract unwanted attention. I hiking stick or cane would be a good alternative along with pepper spray or even a taser device would extend the distance for self-defense if needed. The Practical Tactical sub-forum would be a much better location to get an in-depth discussion on low-profile, urban self-defensive tools.

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ROCK6




Hey ROCK6 do you have a list or maybe a youtube video that talks about all of what you have in that list? What you have there would seem to cover ya very well in any urban environment. Now it's got me thinking maybe I sould get something like that together, but I do live fairly close to a wooded area. One can never be too prepared I suppose.
 
I carry a CamelBak HAWG as a BOB. It goes in my old truck, every place I go. The pack has the items I think I might need in a time of crisis. Food, water, comfort and security are addressed.

Now if the hurricane, earthquake, meteor strike of al queda attack happened when I was in an urban area, I doubt I would care if the HAWG was the correct color, style or if it was 'suitable' for deployment in an urban setting. ;)
 
I think in a real disaster, the color of your pack isn't going to be much worry. At least during the first 72 hours until things settle out. Now if you roll out with a tactical bag, LBV, SWAT helmet, goggles, etc., might be a different story. But probably the most common pack, after school bookbags and laptop bags, is going to be the ALICE, or similar. Best thing to have, IMO, is a bag that looks used, not new. That will help you blend in the most, I think.
 
Define urban. Urban like NYC/Chicago/Boston or urban like Atlanta/Austin etc. I don't anything about where you are from, though I have been to Vancouver.

I know that some people will say a city is a city, but when you "escape" a place like NYC, you escape into....a smaller city. I.e. almost everything you need for wilderness survival is not nearly as important in these places.

If it is like a NYC, I would say a few more tools are in order, less shelter/fire making. A wrench, prybar, screw drivers, allen wrench, etc have a lot more value than it would be in a B.O.B. made for someone in Idaho.

If you live in a city like Austin or Atlanta, your B.O.B., you have to make a decision are you going to stay in the city or are you going to leave the city. I think the goal would be to leave. What I would change up is stuff to make it easier that I could escape to the wilderness. I.e it would be pretty similar to an outdoor B.O.B. appropriate to that area with just some additions to help me get to it.
 
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