The venerable Hawkbill!

That is a great collection MM. Maybe you need to change your name to Hawk Man. This is my latest. Harrison Bros & Howson 'Alpha' Knife. Nice rosewood handles. Also new pics of one from the group shot posted much earlier.
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Thank you S-K.

a couple very nice examples there S-K I especially like the blade on the top one and the stag on the bottom one :D
 
Hey there fellows, I just picked this one up off the bay two weeks ago and it came to me in very poor condition. Worse than the loan picture let on, as the entire knife had many years of hard rust on every part of the steel, which was the blade, liners and backspring.. The upside is I gave up less than $11 for her shipped to my door.. So after a mineral oil bath for several days and another full day of some light cleaning, blade crinking and blade re-profiling, she is now a very serviceable knife, although I am not completely done with her yet.

Incredibly, she now opens and closes as hard and fast as any new or used knife I own. In addition to the mineral oil loosening up lots of rust in heavy chunks, it also brought back deep luster to a once very dry set of wood scales that appear to be walnut..

Sooooo, anyway my question to you all is:

Does anyone know the vintage or approximate vintage of this knife? I noticed the tang stamping was pretty close to muskrat mans Schrade model #186 in his post #96, so I thought perhaps he or one of you guys could assist me here.

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By the way, this thread is a very :cool: classic. I must agree wholeheartedly with mm, we cannot let it die.:thumbup:
 
SunnyD, you did get a pretty good deal. I can honestly say I have never seen a schrade rope or hawk with a poor spring. They tempered them right and I think the heavy swayback nature helped prevent excessive wear, but I'm not sure.

I'm going to guess your knife was made somewhere between 1960 and 1970, purely a guess but the usual 1946-1973 range is too wide, I have noticed the later production waldens and NY USA marked knives had the squarish handles, earlier production (mid 40's to mid 50's) had highly radiused handles and held a higher polished blade, sometimes etched, in short they were of a higher standard as far as fit and finish goes. The NY USA production era hawkbills (1973-1985) had rougher finished handles, square edges, rougher fit and finish overall, but the excellent walk and talk wtill remained. I have handled dozens of schrade hawkbills of different eras (I've still yet to fondle a cut co though :() and this is merely what I have observed. As far as value goes, hard to say. $20ish if someone sees it who like it.
 
and here is my latest contribution, a kingston hawk with jigged cell.

I let a certain someone talk me out of my 1949 vintage Schrade Walden "Craftsman Professional Pruner" etched hawkbill a while back. :eek:

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MM
 
Nice one MM.

Here are a couple of fixed blade hawkbills. I think these were sometime called plantation knives.
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muskrat man said:
SunnyD, you did get a pretty good deal. I can honestly say I have never seen a schrade rope or hawk with a poor spring. They tempered them right and I think the heavy swayback nature helped prevent excessive wear, but I'm not sure.

I'm going to guess your knife was made somewhere between 1960 and 1970, purely a guess but the usual 1946-1973 range is too wide, I have noticed the later production waldens and NY USA marked knives had the squarish handles, earlier production (mid 40's to mid 50's) had highly radiused handles and held a higher polished blade, sometimes etched, in short they were of a higher standard as far as fit and finish goes. The NY USA production era hawkbills (1973-1985) had rougher finished handles, square edges, rougher fit and finish overall, but the excellent walk and talk wtill remained. I have handled dozens of schrade hawkbills of different eras (I've still yet to fondle a cut co though :() and this is merely what I have observed. As far as value goes, hard to say. $20ish if someone sees it who like it.
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Great information there musky man. Much Obliged for all your best estimations on this subject here. I'll look to confirm this then.:thumbup:
 
Hi, can't narrow the date down much further on your hawkbill, 40-64 is about it for that date stamp. I haven't had enough experience with case hawkbills to narrow down a closer date. It would be worth $25-$30 MAX in my opinion, becuase of the size of the pitting on the mark side of the blade. Seeing how I dobn't have any examples of case hawkbills at all, let me know if you're looking to sell.
Best
MM
 
muskrat man said:
and here is my latest contribution, a kingston hawk with jigged cell.

I let a certain someone talk me out of my 1949 vintage Schrade Walden "Craftsman Professional Pruner" etched hawkbill a while back. :eek:

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MM
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WHO?? WHERE?? UMMMM . . . . . . . . . .. .wanna sell your Kingston??:D :D :D

Nice fixed blades, s-k!!
 
Thanks Muskrat man !
I appreciate the info, I guess I did ok for 10 bucks.

As far as selling it, the wife would kill me, she's kind of fond of it, go figure !
 
you did real good for $10, I would not hesitate to add it to my collection (or her collection :p) for $10
 
nope thread, you ain't takin a dive that easy :D . My latest addition, the smallest hawkbill in my collection.

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