They're closing in Munk

Rob, I wouldn't want a gator of that size around my 3 or 6 year olds.

I join the 'shoot it' crowd. Which they should have done. The arrow was pathetic. It sank for an hour, holding it's breath with an arrow stuck to it's side. Not good.

And yes, Winter would have killed it. Just gotta wonder if that's humane, or the risk to small children acceptable.



munk
 
I have to admit, though, that while I think it was fine that they killed it, they did it all wrong. First of all, I think they should have just got the kids inside and called animal control. Or if not that, then at least give it a clean shot to the head with a large-caliber firearm. I mean, an arrow and a half-assed attempt to cut its throat (and not succeed)? Just dumb.

Chris
 
Yep. Get the kids inside. You don't want them seeing Rambodaddy get his head bit off on their birthday. Seems like some Jim Beam and some good ole Alabama 'watchiss'. They musta had cheap ass cutlery too. I got a Samsher woulda taken that gators head clean off. Tail too...
 
How about getting animal control to catch it and let them decide if it can be donated to a zoo or relocated to where gators are supposed to live? We have a foundation near us that uses an aligator that a little boy brought back from his vacation in Florida (they saw a baby crawling across the road and he asked mom and dad if he could keep the "lizard" he found and they said yes. The thing lived in a small aquarium for years and is only about 3 feet long even at 12 years old IIRC). They use it to teach kids about aligators AND why we shouldn't keep them as pets...and oh I don't know, release them into Montana lakes?;)

I think the "KILL IT" knee jerk reaction comes far too quickly sometimes. I have a 3 and a 6 year old myself. My first reaction? get the kids away and pick up the phone. But everybody's different.

I'm just saying that there may have been other options. The fool who released it into a lake is the one to blame IMO--its a classic case of shirking responsibility and hoping someone else will solve your problem for you.
 
MauiRob said:
I think the "KILL IT" knee jerk reaction comes far too quickly sometimes.
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What if someone killed it and used the carcass to say... make a hat or something? :rolleyes:
 
I see your point there Rob.
 
Rob is right.
I'm still going to reserve the right to my knee jerk kill-it response, though.

I'm glad Rob is here to remind us of other roads.


munk
 
Thanks Munk. And Andy.

The nice thing about this place is that I'm not the least bit angry or dissappointed in anyone because of our disagreement on this.

Friends can do that and still be friends.

To be fair: if you caught me on a bad day and I got scared enough for my girls I might just blast a peephole in that gator meself. ARRRGGHHH:D

Then I'd feel like crap and beat myself up about it....;)
 
It is better to chop a tree down instead of a human being or a gator. Kukris are good for the heart.


I just think the animal should have been dispatched effectively. The arrow guy....well.
I don't know if arrows are considered effective 'croc' and 'gator' medicine. I doubt it.


No one in Kalispell, Montana owns a firearm anymore? What are those yups up to there?


munk
 
MauiRob said:
How about getting animal control to catch it and let them decide if it can be donated to a zoo or relocated to where gators are supposed to live? We have a foundation near us that uses an aligator that a little boy brought back from his vacation in Florida (they saw a baby crawling across the road and he asked mom and dad if he could keep the "lizard" he found and they said yes. The thing lived in a small aquarium for years and is only about 3 feet long even at 12 years old IIRC). They use it to teach kids about aligators AND why we shouldn't keep them as pets...and oh I don't know, release them into Montana lakes?;)

I think the "KILL IT" knee jerk reaction comes far too quickly sometimes. I have a 3 and a 6 year old myself. My first reaction? get the kids away and pick up the phone. But everybody's different.

I'm just saying that there may have been other options. The fool who released it into a lake is the one to blame IMO--its a classic case of shirking responsibility and hoping someone else will solve your problem for you.
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Word.
But if you have to absolutely, no other option, must kill it, at least use enough gun and enough skill to do it quick and humane. Damn that was an unneccesarily ugly end.:thumbdn:
Good thread!
 
While I think that calling AC would be the most humane/civilized option, I must admit I would have probably killed the gator one way or another rather than call them. This is because of two reasons, a personal disdain for relying on govt to handle things, and the fact that that gator would look to me like a rare and tasty treat. When I lived in S. Louisianna the majority of the gator I ate was taken illegally. Somehow it was still just as yummy.
 
I remember reading in one of those "this day in history" newspaper columns about when a circus train went off the tracks, and two Siberian Tigers got loose in the bush north of Lake Superior. Locals eventually hunted them down.

Unlike the escapee alligator, those two wouldn't have been zeroed out by winter - the Edmonton zoo keeps them outside year round.
 
I like how this thread has turned out. Moderation, sanity, humanity, discussion and agreement. This place is the best. And I agree with what has been said. Nicely put, Rob.

Personally, if it were me, I would have got everybody in and called animal control while keeping my 12 ga. with buckshot trained on it's head. I have no desire to needlessly kill an animal, and I'm sure they'd be out to capture it. But it doesn't hurt to have plan B aimed at it. :)


Chris
 
TomFetter said:
Unlike the escapee alligator, those two wouldn't have been zeroed out by winter - the Edmonton zoo keeps them outside year round.
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What I do not understand is why the world is not overrun by Siberian Tigers. Right now they are prancing around outside in our local zoos in 98 degree 86 percent humidity weather and very happy to do so. However, they will be doing the same thing this winter in two feet of snow and -20F. Climate seems to place parameters on every other wicked beast out there, but not them.
 
The tigers are waiting for nuclear winter to strike, to make their move for world domination. There'll be enough human corpsicles laying around to last them until the sun comes out again, bringing about the Day of the Tiger.


munk


from the early 1700's through the late 1800's, it is estimated tigers killed and ate over a hundred thousand people. (Learning channel)
 
You ever get up close and personal with one? The Edmonton zoo had a "viewing station" with (presumably) tiger-proof glass at ground level. The big cats would saunter past, not 6 inches away, yawning impressively.

Simply bloody enormous, with paws that seemed as big as dinner plates. I can understand where that 100K number would have come from.
 
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