Things you don't like about your CR knife ?

pvicenzi said:
I wish they cost about $100, so I could have many, many more.
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I'm fine with the regular price, they're worth the cost but I do wish the one piece lineup and ivory inlays weren't basically collector's pieces driving up the price.
 
bp_173 said:
I am very happy with my Small 21. I got used to the thumbstud after a couple of days, so no complaint here.

My only point of criticism is the factory edge. On my knife the angle at the belly is just over 20 degrees, so my sharpmaker doesn't get to the apex. I soon will reprofile the edge with the diamond rods at 15 degrees and put a 20 degree micro bevel on it. But I still hesitate a bit because I'm afraid to ruin the symmetry of the grind...
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+1 on that! I sent my small Seb back to CRK and they tried again with the sharpening . . . and did MUCH better. I too was afraid to ruin the symmetry of the grind.
 
LOVE my small plain 21. It has been my EDC of choice ever since I got it.

Only thing I would change is it's sliiiighty of centered towards the presentaton side(noticed someone else also have the same "problem").
 
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There are a couple of things I am pretty neutral on that I honestly haven't given a whole lot of thought to up to this point. I have been so concentrated on the actual knife and the use aspects and utility that I really haven't pondered aesthetics or cost/value ratio.

To be honest, I really don't have much of an opinion of the Sebenza 21 from an aesthetics standpoint. It isn't ugly. It isn't flashy or blingy. It's kind of 'just there' in terms of visual appeal, at least to me. I think the aesthetics is all in the feel in hand and the quality of the knife. It isn't a show-off type of design that you will pull out and impress anyone with. It isn't a knife I would pull out of my collection just to look at, like I do others. But in your hand it impresses and is fun to hold. I guess that's why I don't get nutnfancy's review after having the knife now. In doing my research, I came across his video review. He labeled one philosophy of use as a 'douche knife'--something you would pull out to impress someone. I don't get that part--at all. Nobody is going to fall over and drop a jaw if you pull out a grey Sebenza and show it to them. Seasoned collectors already know the knife and others won't have any idea on what you just showed them. Nor would they care that you spent $400 for it, other than possibly thinking you are crazy. Their reaction might be, "So?". Now, if you flick open a ZT 0200 or Cold Steel XL Espada, that will probably turn a lot of heads, wowwwww. I see an XL Espada as much more of a douche knife than a Sebenza.

As far as cost, I really haven't given it much thought either, until now. There really isn't much point in debating it as value and worth are so subjective. The bottom line is, like any other product or knife, if you want a CR knife, you have to pay the asking price. After getting it and using it, you can then decide whether it was worth it for you. That's about all you can really say. I am happy with the knife. No major disappointments. Is it perfect? No. Was it worth $400? For me, in a way, yes as I would have just purchased a number of other knives with the money and I already have enough knives and this was something new and different I had been thinking about for a while. I kind of reached the point where nothing new was that exciting on the market for a while that caught my interest. Already have tons of Spyderco, Benchmade, Fixed blades, Bowies, etc..Whats next?

My opinion on who this knife is definitely not for: Casual knife user without an interest in the hobby. Not being a flashy knife, all of the pros of the knife would probably be lost on the user and they would get it and probably think they wasted their money.
 
They are worth every penny. My comment was a sarcastic way to say that I would like to have more. More I say for I am a CR glutton!!
 
BubbaGump said:
There are a couple of things I am pretty neutral on that I honestly haven't given a whole lot of thought to up to this point. I have been so concentrated on the actual knife and the use aspects and utility that I really haven't pondered aesthetics or cost/value ratio.

To be honest, I really don't have much of an opinion of the Sebenza 21 from an aesthetics standpoint. It isn't ugly. It isn't flashy or blingy. It's kind of 'just there' in terms of visual appeal, at least to me. I think the aesthetics is all in the feel in hand and the quality of the knife. It isn't a show-off type of design that you will pull out and impress anyone with. It isn't a knife I would pull out of my collection just to look at, like I do others. But in your hand it impresses and is fun to hold. I guess that's why I don't get nutnfancy's review after having the knife now. In doing my research, I came across his video review. He labeled one philosophy of use as a 'douche knife'--something you would pull out to impress someone. I don't get that part--at all. Nobody is going to fall over and drop a jaw if you pull out a grey Sebenza and show it to them. Seasoned collectors already know the knife and others won't have any idea on what you just showed them. Nor would they care that you spent $400 for it, other than possibly thinking you are crazy. Their reaction might be, "So?". Now, if you flick open a ZT 0200 or Cold Steel XL Espada, that will probably turn a lot of heads, wowwwww. I see an XL Espada as much more of a douche knife than a Sebenza.

As far as cost, I really haven't given it much thought either, until now. There really isn't much point in debating it as value and worth are so subjective. The bottom line is, like any other product or knife, if you want a CR knife, you have to pay the asking price. After getting it and using it, you can then decide whether it was worth it for you. That's about all you can really say. I am happy with the knife. No major disappointments. Is it perfect? No. Was it worth $400? For me, in a way, yes as I would have just purchased a number of other knives with the money and I already have enough knives and this was something new and different I had been thinking about for a while. I kind of reached the point where nothing new was that exciting on the market for a while that caught my interest. Already have tons of Spyderco, Benchmade, Fixed blades, Bowies, etc..Whats next?

My opinion on who this knife is definitely not for: Casual knife user without an interest in the hobby. Not being a flashy knife, all of the pros of the knife would probably be lost on the user and they would get it and probably think they wasted their money.
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Really even keeled response!

I know I may have rubbed folks the wrong way about the thumbstuds but that's my honest opinion. In the interest of evolving I feel that the studs can be improved. Others may differ on this.

As a knife nut it's an otherwise fine knife. I find the large Wilson Combat Starbenza to be one the best medium large folders out there. I find it a shame where I live and where I work that it's not appropriate for me to carry it. I have a similar opinion of the small too.
 
cchu518 said:
Really even keeled response!

I know I may have rubbed folks the wrong way about the thumbstuds but that's my honest opinion. In the interest of evolving I feel that the studs can be improved. Others may differ on this.

As a knife nut it's an otherwise fine knife. I find the large Wilson Combat Starbenza to be one the best medium large folders out there. I find it a shame where I live and where I work that it's not appropriate for me to carry it. I have a similar opinion of the small too.
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I think people can take things personally when it comes to the critiques that others offer. This applies to all things. For instance, if someone says I don't care for the car or motorcycle you bought and prefer XYZ instead, it is natural to take it personally, as if they are saying your taste isn't as good as mine. I think this especially applies if you spend a comparatively large amount on something and it gets critiqued in what you might interpret in a negative way. It is only natural and we all have felt this way at some time I think. But personal opinions and preferences are just that--individual and personal. People should take it as just preferences. Saying, "I don't care for the thumb stud" is just about me and my opinion, not a universal statement of truth about something in particular. It's not an attack on a product or someone else's preferences.
 
I own a large 21, and an Umnumzaan. I love both knives, and feel that they are totally worth the cost. my only complaint is that I wish they were more ambidextrous. The 'Zaan has dual thumb studs, but is still very difficult to open left handed. I am right handed, but often cary my knife on my off side, for personal reasons.
 
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I'm new to the Sebenza, but I can say that I don't like the thumb stud. I really prefer something bigger, more cylindrical, that catches the thumb better.
 
the clip, specifically the bottom where it sticks/curves out a bit. I am sure this is mostly me but I have bought two diff clips and will be buying a 3rd soon bc somehow in my clumsiness I keep catching that on something and it gets stretched. Once that happens it is no longer tight on my pocket and slides around which makes me worried will fall off one day

I am going to try the clip from a diff CR knife this time, the mnandi I think I read on here is the one.

Again, this could be just a me issue but I have done it with two diff clips.

I like the thumb stud, don't care for the blue and would have prefered it not be anodized but do not care enough, and I like everything else about the knife
 
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BubbaGump said:
I think people can take things personally when it comes to the critiques that others offer. This applies to all things. For instance, if someone says I don't care for the car or motorcycle you bought and prefer XYZ instead, it is natural to take it personally, as if they are saying your taste isn't as good as mine. I think this especially applies if you spend a comparatively large amount on something and it gets critiqued in what you might interpret in a negative way. It is only natural and we all have felt this way at some time I think. But personal opinions and preferences are just that--individual and personal. People should take it as just preferences. Saying, "I don't care for the thumb stud" is just about me and my opinion, not a universal statement of truth about something in particular. It's not an attack on a product or someone else's preferences.
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Very SJW-esque. Sounds like those people need a safe space from tigger words.
 
fan of fanboys said:
the clip, specifically the bottom where it sticks/curves out a bit. I am sure this is mostly me but I have bought two diff clips and will be buying a 3rd soon bc somehow in my clumsiness I keep catching that on something and it gets stretched. Once that happens it is no longer tight on my pocket and slides around which makes me worried will fall off one day

I am going to try the clip from a diff CR knife this time, the mnandi I think I read on here is the one.

Again, this could be just a me issue but I have done it with two diff clips.

I like the thumb stud, don't care for the blue and would have prefered it not be anodized but do not care enough, and I like everything else about the knife
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If your clip gets bent, you can take it off, turn it around backwards (so it hangs off the back of the knife) screw it back down, and bend it down. Then re-install it normally, and its good as new. I've done this on my Umnumzaan and it works like a charm. The titanium clip has enough flexibility to do this without breaking.
 
ebidis said:
If your clip gets bent, you can take it off, turn it around backwards (so it hangs off the back of the knife) screw it back down, and bend it down. Then re-install it normally, and its good as new. I've done this on my Umnumzaan and it works like a charm. The titanium clip has enough flexibility to do this without breaking.
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I an going to try this tonight!
 
I LOVE my sebenzas, they are my favorite knives. But if I had to find a critizism.... I do HATE the new boxes!! I miss the old ones, easier to open and close for storage and more durable. The thumb stud could be a bit more grippy. I have an old regular with a much more aggressively cut thumb stud. It actually grabs your thumb, much less pressure needed to deploy it. None of these things will stop me from my obsession.
 
I would like to see case hardened set screws on the Sebenza. Stripped to many sets with disassembly and assembly.
 
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