Thinking of getting a welder

GrizzlyBear, flux core takes a better welding setup to get it right, you need to run a little hotter and a higher wire feed speed. If you where trying to weld with it like it was solid wire that was probably your only problem. There really is no difference other than you have slag to remove. If you ever want to try dual shield it is a much hotter operation and a much higher wfs. Average weld with that is 300 wfs and 24v.
 
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I have a Tig/Stick inverter box system that I can run off 110v/220v single phase. No special wiring needed. So far as the learning curve, Tig is easier to learn than stick. If you can weld with a torch Tig will be a breeze. If you could only have one I would go with a MIG but the TIG/Stick combo really comes in handy for the more intricate welding jobs. I have all the above. I use the MIG more that the other 2 combined. But I use it to weld up my boxes for dry welding so you would not need it for this.

I would seriously look at a Tig inverter box for the jobs you described. Don't rule it out due to lack of knowledge. It just takes a little practice.

Good luck
What brand/model is your TIG box?

I am looking to step up to TIG but I want to be able to use it at my house which has only 110 until I can get the money together to pay an electrician to upgrade my service.

I have been using OxyAcetylene for welding for about 20 years, there are some alloys that the sudden thermal shock of the arc welding really messes with, I built my reputation for unbreakable swept-hilt fencing swords with one welded up with oxyacetylene that got run over by a station wagon during a breakup and no welds failed. I now have a Millermatic 130 MIG that runs on 110v with "welding mix" gas. When I compare it to the Harbor Freight models, the construction of the Harbor Freight ones scares me.
The disposable oxygen torches are underpowered for anything and at 20 dollars per cubic foot it only takes 14 cylinders to make up the cost of a 40 cubic foot oxy cylinder and a regulator. I believe my new oxy-acetylene rig (Smith brand, by far superior to Harris brand and their copiers) cost about $430 with an 80 cubic foot oxy and the matching size acetylene (buy your cylinders, don't rent them) Stay the h$ll away from the Harbor freight torches they are unsafe. I bought one if scared the heck out of me, I exchanged it, same burnback and pulsing issues

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We have torch, MIG, TIG, and stick welders in the shop, I've used them all for various different tasks, and I teach welding to a few students a year.

MIG has a short learning curve for most students, once the settings on the machine are set correctly, it's just a matter of keeping the gun the right distance from the work and putting the weld in the right place.

Lincoln and Miller both have good small units that will plug into a regular 120 volt 15 or 20 amp outlet. Don't sweat a 20% duty cycle. Unless you set up a factory in the garage, the actual time spent welding pales in comparison to the time spent clamping, jigging, grinding, cleaning...We have a few of those units that are in regular use in the shop and that we take out into the field. The only one we ever burned up was a Hobart Handler. The Lincoln units sold at the "big box stores" have different model #s and the welding stores will tell you they are not as well made, but having been inside machines from both sources, it's the same parts inside...One difference to be aware of is whether or not the gas solenoid for MIG welding and a regulator is included. It frequently is not on the "big box" welders, and both are fairly expensive items to purchase. If you want to MIG instead of just fluxcore weld, you'll need both and they are usually included with the welding store models, which makes their prices look more reasonable. For welding steel, use C02 if you are cheap, or an Argon blend. The initial cost of an Argon blend is high, but a bottle of gas lasts a long time if you are not using it every day. If you want to weld aluminium too, get a welder that you can attach a "spool gun" to and a bottle of pure argon gas.

An Oxy-Acetylene torch set is very versatile, you can weld almost any metal that will melt (assuming you have the right flux), cut steel, braze, solder, etc. For most of my students, it also has the longest learning curve. There are a lot of variables to get just right, how far from the weld to hold the torch, how fast to travel, how much filler metal...and they are all directly controlled by the welder.

TIG is much like an electric version of torch welding, and once you master torch it's not hard to learn TIG. Miller has a couple very nice little inverter based TIG units that can run from a 120 volt 15 or 20 amp outlet, and can weld up 1/8" material with that input, unfortunately they are expensive. TIG can also be used to braze and can weld any melt-able metal, even titanium if you have an inert gas filled enclosure. Most TIG power supplies can also be used for stick welding. With TIG you can weld steel or aluminium using the same bottle of Argon.

Stick welding has a medium learning curve, and the common AC "buzz box" welders can sometimes be had pretty cheaply at garage sales. They are power hungry, (30-50 amps at 220 volts) but if you have an electric dryer or range, they can be wired to plug into that outlet. Stick welding material thinner than 16 ga. is not easy. Stick welding really shines for thick sections. DC stick power supplies can be used for TIG on steel with the proper equipment

Which one should you get? If you are only going to join steel, then MIG. If you want more versatility, Oxy-Acetylene or an inverter based TIG unit.
 
What brand/model is your TIG box?

I am looking to step up to TIG but I want to be able to use it at my house which has only 110 until I can get the money together to pay an electrician to upgrade my service.

I have been using OxyAcetylene for welding for about 20 years, there are some alloys that the sudden thermal shock of the arc welding really messes with, I built my reputation for unbreakable swept-hilt fencing swords with one welded up with oxyacetylene that got run over by a station wagon during a breakup and no welds failed. I now have a Millermatic 130 MIG that runs on 110v with "welding mix" gas. When I compare it to the Harbor Freight models, the construction of the Harbor Freight ones scares me.
The disposable oxygen torches are underpowered for anything and at 20 dollars per cubic foot it only takes 14 cylinders to make up the cost of a 40 cubic foot oxy cylinder and a regulator. I believe my new oxy-acetylene rig (Smith brand, by far superior to Harris brand and their copiers) cost about $430 with an 80 cubic foot oxy and the matching size acetylene (buy your cylinders, don't rent them) Stay the h$ll away from the Harbor freight torches they are unsafe. I bought one if scared the heck out of me, I exchanged it, same burnback and pulsing issues

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I have a thermalarc 130. The shop I used to work at went to using it over a miller, smoother arc and easier to weld with. It does have a lower amp rating but I have had really good luck welding up to 1/4 inch stainless with it. I have also used it for titanium. This does not have high frequency it is a strike start and dc only, no aluminum welding. I will not be without one again.
 
You have gotten some very good advice but there is only so much that you can learn from reading a thread. Before spending serious cash on a tool, I would recommend visiting an accomplished maker's shop and see first hand what is needed (or what you prefer). There are as many ways to make a knife as there are knife makers and you will develope your own methods as well so learn all you can before making a decision.

My only recommendation is when buying a tool, buy a quality tool and not simply the cheapest one.

Gary
 
Speaking as a salesman who sells equipement to farmers and diy'ers, I have to agree with Mahoney. MIG if probably your best bet for a general purpose welder. TIG is great for small things, but you get really deep penetration with its on thicker pieces, like car frames. Arc is great for heavy duty welds, but you can easily burn through your knives if you are not carefull. As for gas, the only time I ever hear of people using gas to weld around her is when they can't get their equipment in from the field to a shop with an electric welder of some kind. Other than that, its only used to cut steel or heat metal. MIG is the simplest to use, easiest to learn, and not as expensive as you might think.

I work at a Tractor Supply store and the cost of buying a new cylinder is around $300, but after that, it only costs about $50 to exchange an empty cylinder for a new one. You may want to check out your local welding gas suppiers to see what they offer. And that gas cylinder will likely last you several months if all you use it for is your knives and the occasional odd job.
 
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