This ever happen to you??

Why dont you order a special type gun and when it arrives tell him it was not what you thought it would be and walk out:D

JK...great looking knife his loss.

Spencer
 
I finally got the chance to take another look at this thread and actually see the knife. I don't see a thing wrong with this knife. Looks very nice to me! Mike
 
Gravelface said:
Mlovett, I spent 4 years in Cove while I was stationed at Ft. Hood and I have NEVER seen scam artist like those that reside in Cove and Killeen!. Ripping off soldiers was their business, especially Action Pawn on Ft. Hood St. and ANYTHING on Rancier. It pissed me off to see soldiers piss away their money on fakes and bootlegs. It should be illegal. I picked up a brand new 357 in Austin for 269.00 and at those pawn shops it was 389.00. Come on! Everything was like this. Those people are the scourge of society.
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That is why I really dislike Fort Hood!! I'll be back there again this winter for a stint. Is this the same guy that has a range???

Columbus GA aka Fort Benning had the same issues with the locals a long long long time ago so the post commander locked all soldiers down on post until the town was on its knees (Columbus lived off of Fort Benning back then). After that NO issues. It was a story I heard from some old locals while I was at Fort Benning last.
 
Oku said:
I learned the hard way...

I now require a 25% deposit...non-refundable

That way if the deal goes south, materials are covered, I get some compensation, and I can sell the knife to another customer.

The thing is, every knife you make will "find a home" if you give it time. I carried a knife I made to shows for almost 3 years. It was finally purchased by a collector.

Godogs, I don't think you'll need to wait anywhere near that long for this one!
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If someone wants a custom I would say that is a totaly acceptable way to do business!
I think part of the problem is that people need to research and figure out who makes what and who's designs appeal to them!! I for the most part love all the designs I have seen but there are a few that appeal to me much more. Putting an idea on paper for a blade is challenging enough for a person who doesn't do it (yeah I tried and I suck but I want to keep trying). It is the clients fault for not doing their homework but maybe a pre-emptive notification of something to the effect of "you are buying me, my ideas, my designs, my art, my work, and a piece of my soul, you are not buying you or any other maker!". Something along these lines clarifying might help. I know exactly what you guys are talking about though!!

Good luck!
 
Beautiful Knife.
I think the bad luck on this deal was all his. He missed out.
Take Care
TJ
 
stefanj said:
That is why I really dislike Fort Hood!! I'll be back there again this winter for a stint. Is this the same guy that has a range???

Columbus GA aka Fort Benning had the same issues with the locals a long long long time ago so the post commander locked all soldiers down on post until the town was on its knees (Columbus lived off of Fort Benning back then). After that NO issues. It was a story I heard from some old locals while I was at Fort Benning last.
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Nope. The Guy with th erange is the yankee gunsmith. Ed Eisenburg. Which I am sure I have miss spelled.


We've all heard odl tales of bases doing that. But in turth It rarely happens If ever. Old Chi-town could take lessons on how to be a crooked town from here in Killeen. Starting with the city council on down.
 
If he wants a knife to his exact standards that bad...then why dont he learn to make his own..?

I now see why I was told that if I want to be a professional knife maker that I'll need to learn how to put up with peoples crap.


And btw, I know I wouldnt refuse that knife, even if the handle was to be to small for me, (unlikely), it would still make a rather nice display piece.
 
beautiful knife.

the gun store guy in this one horse town is the same way. sell crappy clone guns that he thinks are more powerful, nicer, more durable than the gun it is cloning.

you should go ahead and make the new knife, bring it to him, get his approval then tell him that it's not for sale. that would be good for a laugh
 
This kind of stuff happens to all makers every now and then. Don't sweat it. Your reputation is built on how you handle the difficult people that you run into, not the easy ones that are great guys. Don't give the guy any ammunition to use against you.

We keep two lists of customers. The first list has people on it that make doing business with them a pure pleasure. The ones on the second list are likely known as jerks everywhere they go and have done something that really ticked us off. We have very few on the second list, but once you make it, you don't come off. We will do most anything for ones on the first list and will refuse to do anything for the ones on the second list, ever. Deal with this guy, try to make him happy and then add his name to the second list.
 
Unfortunately, guys like this can be a pain in the arse for your local business. Personally, I try to please my customers but be wary of them in the future. Don't discount the knife but sell it to someone else. Use an order form (re: contract) with the parameters of the knife strictly defined, have him pick out or supply the stag handles. If he still isn't happy with the knife you have proof that you made it to his specifications.

These are things I learned while working retail at a home retailer I've seen many contractors order a custom door or window that "doesn't work for them" on one level or another. Those same contractors will turn around and offer a quarter of the price to "get it off your hands". That's when the order form comes in handy showing we ordered exactly what they asked for.

On the other hand, I've used the order form to go after a leather craftsman who 'forgot' the order, then provided substandard workmanship and skimped on materials and labor. I had in his own handwriting what I had paid for.
 
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