This for real?

It looked to me that the blade was left too hard. The baton technique used would amplify the heat treat issue. The handle of the knife should be kept above the point when hammering on the spine. Breaking the stub left of the remaining blade indicates a bad heat treat also. Softer/springy knives will go beyond the point of elasic deformation and return to the point of elasic deformation. Harder, less springy steel will break at the point of elastic deformation. That said, I'll stick to Rat Cutlery . The Scrapyard test is interesting, but the 1" or so in the vice is not subjected to a 90 degree bend. The radius is delivered to most of the blade. Think car springs. Still a very impressive test.
 
Went back to the video. I was wrong about the technique. Hanle was above the point. I will say bad heat treat.
 
Nothing very extraordinary. I've seen various photos of broken Ontario Rats, and I've seen(with my own eyes) RTAK2 broken while chopping a soft wood(Cutting competition), without batoning.
Another thing - batoning the tip, thile holding handle puts LOTS of torque on blade(or lock in folder). Proper technique is battoning directly above point of cutting. Or batoning vertical tip first into wood.
 
Looks like its got a bad treatment.. d2 some hard stuff.. maybe even brittle..
bad deal man!
 
I call BS, I've got a RAT 7, batoned the crap out of it after I bought it just to see how well it performed, flawlessly, even through knots.

I did manage to put a ding in the blade, shaking water off of the blade over the sink and hit the lip of a glass, the glass didn't break or even chip, but managed to roll the cutting edge.
 
It's an internet video; internet videos can be toyed with endlessly. The results in this one, to me, are relatively meaningless.

In the "old" days, there was a saying "Once it's printed, it becomes reality."
Today, it seems, once there's a video of something, it becomes reality.


Ontario manufactures high quality, reliable knives.

With all the knives Ontario produces every year, including its Queen, Schatt & Morgan, and other brands, this video is the first and only instance I've ever seen or heard of where this happened.

BTW, when Justin Gingrich decided to bring his highly respected Ranger knives to a broader market, he chose Ontario as the manufacturer.
 
Regardless of this Video I still plan on buying a Ontario blade, I know they are a good product and stand behind them with great CS.. I know some blades can be used as "hatchets" but I still dont understand WHY people do it, just to prove a point? IMO a "Hatchet" is what should be used to chop wood not a knife...
 
The RAT is bent more like 40 degrees and the Junkyard dog is THEIR video production....

But I will eat crow and give you this. The Dogfather looks like it IS a darn tough blade for a production knife. So I stand corrected.

BTW, there ARE ways to make a blade springy enough for a 90 degree bend and hard enough to hold a shaving edge.

Carl-
 
rifon2 said:
With all the knives Ontario produces every year, including its Queen, Schatt & Morgan, and other brands, this video is the first and only instance I've ever seen or heard of where this happened.
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used to be some complaints about the Spec Plus series having problems, but either they fixed it or people stopped buying them, cause I haven't seen it mentioned in years.
 
Skimo said:
I call BS, I've got a RAT 7, batoned the crap out of it after I bought it just to see how well it performed, flawlessly, even through knots.
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Some might say "but was it a RAT 7 in D2?"

To which I would add: I have a RAT-3 in D2, and used it to baton too, I gave a beating to that knife, and it's asking for more.
 
As someone else said, I recall Ontario having a problem with the D2 blades. So they changed the heat treat.
 
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