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... No joke now, the Dr. Goes to WebMD on the tablet types something , reads it and writes my daughter another script for a stronger antibiotic. I did get heated after that and I said some not so nice things to this Dr. but I think I was justified in doing it. Of course I waited until my daughter was in the lobby to say it ,but anybody with kids should know a parent seeing their kids in pain or sick is heartbreaking . To have a medical professional act like my kid is nothing and they won't even look me in my face when talking because it's buried in a tablet ! Come on now.

With my suspicion of doctors' motives sometimes, at that point I would have been wondering if he were seeing what his pharma girl recommended... I find it really off-putting to walk into waiting room or drs office and see them decorated with mugs, calendars, pens, and note pads with pharmaceutical company logos all over the place. I question whether they are out to help and heal people or out to get the most from kickbacks....
 
With my suspicion of doctors' motives sometimes, at that point I would have been wondering if he were seeing what his pharma girl recommended... I find it really off-putting to walk into waiting room or drs office and see them decorated with mugs, calendars, pens, and note pads with pharmaceutical company logos all over the place. I question whether they are out to help and heal people or out to get the most from kickbacks....

I have the same feelings as you. We live in a small town anyway, and it's known if you want the best medical care you haft to drive about an hour to Birmingham, Alabama. Got tired of dealing with all the drama and seeing my little one in so much pain all the time with her ears.

The surgeon at children's hospital was amazing though. He had kids. There was a 3 month wait for her to get her tubes and adnoids removed. I broke down to this Dr. I was all teary eyed and I said Doc I can't stand her screaming and crying all the time from this ,she's suffered the past 9 months with this please help me. Most genuine response I've ever seen from a Dr. He says have her down here Tuesday first thing I'll work her in. This was on a Thursday we were there and he only did surgery on Tuesdays.
 
Thoughts and best wishes for a speedy recovery. She looks like a trooper! I loved the pics and story that you posted previously about learning fire building and now I've become a fan of hers! She sure is lucky to have a dad that teaches her very useful skills! Tell her she has "fans" that are rooting for her on the inter webs [emoji4]

Ana
 
I have the same feelings as you. We live in a small town anyway, and it's known if you want the best medical care you haft to drive about an hour to Birmingham, Alabama. Got tired of dealing with all the drama and seeing my little one in so much pain all the time with her ears.

The surgeon at children's hospital was amazing though. He had kids. There was a 3 month wait for her to get her tubes and adnoids removed. I broke down to this Dr. I was all teary eyed and I said Doc I can't stand her screaming and crying all the time from this ,she's suffered the past 9 months with this please help me. Most genuine response I've ever seen from a Dr. He says have her down here Tuesday first thing I'll work her in. This was on a Thursday we were there and he only did surgery on Tuesdays.

I know there are good doctors out there, the team that actually did the work on my daughter seemed very caring and professional. It's just that seeing all the pharmaceutical marketing makes it easy for me to wonder and question.
 
No doubt . I worked nights for about 5 years . Well this medicine to help you sleep during the day and stay up all night came out. Went to the Dr. And brochures for the meds were everywhere, they even had little pens made up and all that.

Dr calls me back and I said my coworkers told me about nuvigil and provigil I'd like to try it , I work 12 hour nights mostly 6 days a week. Doc said no problem and wrote the script.

Took it to a chain pharmacy that a friend works at and he said , man you might want to get this filled at a mom and pops pharmacy it's over 800 here for 30 pills!

I told him I had insurance and just see if it would run it and it did, but over 800 bucks for 30 pills?!?!

On top of that the only relief my daughter used to get before surgery with her ears was these drops that had benzocaine in them. They'd knumb her ear etc.

Well one bottle lasted awhile snd I go to get a refill and it had been banned by the FDA! No warning to us that we were giving her something that had been banned or nothing ,they just wouldn't refill it. Now what if say it would of had serious or fatal side effects? I know with ear drops that's a big stretch but still it could of been something else and we have no idea what we are taking until a few years later on t.v. that commercial comes on " have you or your loved one taken xxxx , if so you may be eligible for a class action law suit...
 
No doubt . I worked nights for about 5 years . Well this medicine to help you sleep during the day and stay up all night came out. Went to the Dr. And brochures for the meds were everywhere, they even had little pens made up and all that.

Dr calls me back and I said my coworkers told me about nuvigil and provigil I'd like to try it , I work 12 hour nights mostly 6 days a week. Doc said no problem and wrote the script.

Took it to a chain pharmacy that a friend works at and he said , man you might want to get this filled at a mom and pops pharmacy it's over 800 here for 30 pills!

I told him I had insurance and just see if it would run it and it did, but over 800 bucks for 30 pills?!?!

On top of that the only relief my daughter used to get before surgery with her ears was these drops that had benzocaine in them. They'd knumb her ear etc.

Well one bottle lasted awhile snd I go to get a refill and it had been banned by the FDA! No warning to us that we were giving her something that had been banned or nothing ,they just wouldn't refill it. Now what if say it would of had serious or fatal side effects? I know with ear drops that's a big stretch but still it could of been something else and we have no idea what we are taking until a few years later on t.v. that commercial comes on " have you or your loved one taken xxxx , if so you may be eligible for a class action law suit...

Yeah, that's one of my issues with all the pharmaceutical commercials. I don't watch television at home, it holds no interest for me, but I see it at friends' houses and it seems there is as much time for marketing pills as there is content of the show. But it's those disclaimers on side effects at the end that are disconcerting to me. As long as they announce those they are allowed to forego long term testing before selling the product. Far too many pockets getting lined in this country these days to suit me. Seems if you have enough money you can successfully lobby anything into being ok. Several drugs have played jump rope with the FDA ban list line due to the sheer volume of lobby money...I've heard more than one pharmacist make that complaint.
 
Man, that looks painful! Best wishes on recovery and I'll keep her in my prayers!!!
 
Man, that looks painful! Best wishes on recovery and I'll keep her in my prayers!!!

Thank you Will! And everyone else! For your prayers and good energy. I know the worse part should be over, but with all the problems with staph and MRSA in hospitals these days I am still worried about infection causing complications.
 
Well...it looks better now than it did the last time I saw it.

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That is looking much better.

Very much better. Now she is sad because she thinks she ruined our plans for this spring break. Hearing her apologize for that breaks my heart. We had planned to spend the entire week out with her helping me on a project I am working on for ASG, and she thinks it's all her fault we can't. I bought all the supplies we needed and now I am trying to re-group and think of something else to do. I think I am going to try to sell a couple of my knives over the course of the week and take her to Gatlinburg next weekend. She loves it up there.
 
That's sad. Poor kid, hopefully it works out and you can make it to Gatlinburg. She'd probably like to get out.
 
That's sad. Poor kid, hopefully it works out and you can make it to Gatlinburg. She'd probably like to get out.

Yeah, it is taking some explaining but I think she is understanding better now. I am going to do my best. I have some standing offers on a few things so maybe the timing will work out. She isn't liking being stuck inside.

How is William's elbow doing?
 
Mist, great job on the self-composure and your daughter appears to be healing well. It's amazing what we can endure ourselves but are reduced to a barely-in-control emotional wreck when our children are suffering. I have a similar story with inept doctors except this one was due to misdiagnosed allergies. We ended up in the big city seeing a specialist but only after several months of our youngest being miserable. Years later she broke her humerus and I know exactly that spooky feeling of watching the light go out in your daughter's bright eyes as she goes under for surgery and then you're whisked away to wait somewhere else. Disconcerting to say the least.
 
Mist, great job on the self-composure and your daughter appears to be healing well. It's amazing what we can endure ourselves but are reduced to a barely-in-control emotional wreck when our children are suffering. I have a similar story with inept doctors except this one was due to misdiagnosed allergies. We ended up in the big city seeing a specialist but only after several months of our youngest being miserable. Years later she broke her humerus and I know exactly that spooky feeling of watching the light go out in your daughter's bright eyes as she goes under for surgery and then you're whisked away to wait somewhere else. Disconcerting to say the least.

Thanks man, and yeah I was just barely in control. By the time I would get it back in control something else would happen it seemed. It was an insane emotional roller coaster. Hearing and seeing her come down our drive way all covered in blood from the deck on the upper level made my heart stop beating and time speed up, I couldn't get to her fast enough. I have never been so scared in my life. But she had held pressure was getting the bleeding to stop, until we had to separate her hands to assess the situation, stabilize and wrap it so we could get her out of her soaking wet muddy clothes. She was shivering uncontrollably and starting to go into a panic state. She was scared and had made her way home alone from the park and was starting to become hysterical when I heard her the first time and ran outside. It took a minute to get her calmed down. Then the bleeding started again at the first hospital and we didn't know how much she had lost before making it home. The the nonchalant treatment after the bleeding started again was infuriating to me. Lisa told the first nurse, after we had to take the bandage off to show them the wound, that the bleeding had started again she cave her one small gauze pad, the look Lisa gave her as she took it was something else, and then the receptionist acting like it was just a scratch and she had more important paperwork to worry about. Then when the security guard went and got the actual ER nurse things started moving more like we thought they should. Even she shot the receptionist a look disbelief and anger. Then the ER doctor, Dr. Thompson who has treated my injuries before said he wasn't allowed to send us away but that they were not set up for anesthesia and if it was one of his kids he would take her to children's hospital, and she was stable enough for the trip with the bleeding stopped. So we headed down town. Lisa told them the story so they took her back immediately there. Alayna was looking at a little boy laying on a bed asleep all hooked up to tubes and hoses. She didn't get scared by that, she was worried about the little boy the way she is always worried about others, and she asked what was wrong and if he would be ok. Then things started to move a lot faster there. They were going to have to lay the wound open and irrigate it and clean out the debris. That's why we had come there so they could put her under to do it. Watching as they gave her the potassium chloride and watching her fade out was horrible for me, and she was saying she was scared and all I could do was assure her that it would be fine and would would be right there. Everything was going good at that point, we were watching her vital signs and all seemed fine. Then the doc said they weren't sure they were going to be able to stop the bleeding again and called a surgeon and started prepping an OR and told us we could stay with her that she would have to be woken up anyway since they couldn't keep her under that long. Then the clerical nurse who looked to be about 19 told us very calmly "you will need to go wait outside due to patient confidentiality" as if I gave two shits about anyone else's conversations or even noticed other people talking. At that point the adrenaline got the best of me for a minute and I finally snapped a little. I said that is my daughter and she is not going to wake up hooked up to needles and tubes, to strangers retraining her and working on her and one of us not be there for her. That she could either be ok with us in the hall or let us back in the room. Then I drew fire and kept their attention so Lisa could stay close by out of sight out of mind. In the next few minutes they were able to stop the bleeding and finish the surgery. The situation relaxed and everything was over except the healing. On the way out she was still looking at the little boy asking if he would be ok. She has such a good heart and cares so much about others, one reason I was so infuriated about the lack of caring she was getting at the first place. As we walked down the hall to the car I was somewhat amazed I was there and not in jail, but mostly I was extremely proud of my little girl and how well she had done with the entire ordeal and spent the whole time more worried about others than she was worried about herself. I was thankful that Lisa and I were able to keep it together enough that she could remain that calm when both of us were really losing it on the inside, but both knowing that losing it would only make things worse.

Looking back today, running the whole thing through my head step by step, I am proud of Alayna beyond my ability to express. Children can be so amazing. She has always been a tough little girl, and she has always been a very caring person. I am very thankful Lisa and I were able to keep it together and not screw that up. I'm not sure what I am going to do for her yet for spring break, but whatever personal stuff I have to sell to make it happen I am good with. I am going to make the last part of this week very special for her, and show her that I am extremely proud of her.
 
Yeah, it is taking some explaining but I think she is understanding better now. I am going to do my best. I have some standing offers on a few things so maybe the timing will work out. She isn't liking being stuck inside.

How is William's elbow doing?

I'm glad to hear that she is appears to be healing up and her hand looks so much better. It can definitely be difficult as parents at times when trying to explain things to our children. Good on you for being there for her, she'll never forget it. You did the right thing in staying calm.

It's not fun keeping little ones cooped up inside. William is doing fine. Just a small fracture. Fortunately we have had family over for the weekend so he has been entertained by his cousins. The hardest part is trying to get him to be careful so he doesn't break his other arm...
 
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Wow man.. i'm glad she is ok. Sorry you all, especially her, had to go through that. She does seem like a strong little girl. Hope for a speedy recovery. Thoughts and prayers. I showed the thread of your daughter starting a fire, to my 7 yr old daughter and she said "that girl is so cool" haha. Ty for your threads they are my favorite on bfc. I finally got a Fiddleback and i am loving it.
 
Wow man.. i'm glad she is ok. Sorry you all, especially her, had to go through that. She does seem like a strong little girl. Hope for a speedy recovery. Thoughts and prayers. I showed the thread of your daughter starting a fire, to my 7 yr old daughter and she said "that girl is so cool" haha. Ty for your threads they are my favorite on bfc. I finally got a Fiddleback and i am loving it.

thats great!
she is something special

tough little girl
 
So glad she is doing well! That was a nasty gash! You did the right thing controlling yourself. She could have been left alone without anyone watching out for her. I commend you on the self control.
It often makes me wonder why some people go into the medical profession. I don't know if they started out calloused, or they turned that way under the pressure. Either way the shouldn't be in their position.
 
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