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This may not go over well but in regards to Mechforce
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The True North
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They are absolutely intentionally vague about this stuff on their website and socials.
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In 2026, it's a given that "assembled in the USA" or "partially made in the US" means that China is involved in making the knife. The lack of saying "100% made in the USA" means China was involved.
Really any vague language that is short of swearing up and down that the entire knife is made in the US means Chinese manufacturing played a part.
Really any vague language that is short of swearing up and down that the entire knife is made in the US means Chinese manufacturing played a part.
Agreed. Personally I don't have a problem with the likes of We/Reate/Bestech. Some of my favorite pieces I own are the Sharp By Design production models, and Brian has always been forthcoming about the oem. I would never be able to afford them otherwise, so I appreciate the fact that I am still able to experience them. Same goes for this Hokkaido, I just wish they would provide all pertinent information about the manufacturing. Honestly this is one of the most well finished pieces I own, so I am satisfied albeit left with more questions. Even so, my ZT 0392WC is still my favorite
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Well, now you know the blade was cut on the best machines money can buy for sure. I joke, I joke.
Don’t see what the confusion is about. If you go to the website and look at the Nebo it plainly says: “built and assembled in the USA with blades made overseas”. I just took a screenshot of it but it’s too large to upload here. Nothing vague about that IMHO. . .
I understand but I'm talking about gleaning that info from Mechforce themselves. At the time when I was looking into it, in August of last year, Oeser was the only place I could find that info.
Yes that's why I posted it, because alot of people were looking for the information and weren't aware the Oeser site provided it. I had emailed Jared just for further confirmation. Whether or not it's true, that's another story. I'm happy to give them the benefit of the doubt, albeit cautiously. I'm not aware of any other way to experience a Hokkaido and Peter Carey Roadster at these prices, so I am appreciative of the opportunity to experience them. They are well done in my opinion, I am happy.
With a name like Mechforce, I just assumed it was Chinese. I was surprised to see they made anything here in the States. Certainly far more parts percentage wise than the Big Three automakers. I don't see people sharpening pitchforks and lighting torches when it comes to their $80K pickup trucks.
Well that’s because just like everything else we buy, a 100% made in the USA vehicle isn’t even an option. Fortunately it is still for pocket knives. Hence the reason for the pitchforks when false or vague claims are made.
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My GMC Sierra is composed of roughly 80% American/Canadian manufactured parts, and was assembled in Michigan.
If we say the blade and screws/hardware of a folding knife make up roughly 50% of the materials, my GMC has Mechforce handily beaten in terms of domestic manufacturing.
Just food for thought.
Pennsylvania? I wonder if they're being made in the Kobold watch factory XD
For me it's less an issue of deciphering their meaning and more an issue of determining what's plausible. Even if they say that, they have a lot of hallmarks of a company assembling Chinese components and I haven't seen anything to disprove that yet. Most companies will post some of their manufacturing process on social media, the closest I could find from them was some staged photos of turned parts next to mill tooling that clearly wasn't used to make those parts.
Machining heavy parts like theirs, made in USA, and lower pricing is a combo I haven't seen yet. Except for the brands that eventually got outed for lying about COO. The detail about the blades doesn't add up either, there are tons of shops in any given area in the US that you could hire to waterjet or EDM the blanks, that operation makes the least sense to send overseas.
For me it's less an issue of deciphering their meaning and more an issue of determining what's plausible. Even if they say that, they have a lot of hallmarks of a company assembling Chinese components and I haven't seen anything to disprove that yet. Most companies will post some of their manufacturing process on social media, the closest I could find from them was some staged photos of turned parts next to mill tooling that clearly wasn't used to make those parts.
Machining heavy parts like theirs, made in USA, and lower pricing is a combo I haven't seen yet. Except for the brands that eventually got outed for lying about COO. The detail about the blades doesn't add up either, there are tons of shops in any given area in the US that you could hire to waterjet or EDM the blanks, that operation makes the least sense to send overseas.
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What's the endgame here fellas? The knife is assembled here in the USA and some of the parts, (or a part), are not made here.
Now, are we going to discuss the knives themselves?...which like many others are either wholly or partially made from parts coming from outside the US...because this is reading a lot more like a "feedback" matter than a "general knife discussion" matter...
If we're going to be taking to the streets with pitchforks and torches, we'll just move this to feedback.
(And yes, I completely agree that transparency is key. You should know where a product is made...at least as far as country of origin.)
Now, are we going to discuss the knives themselves?...which like many others are either wholly or partially made from parts coming from outside the US...because this is reading a lot more like a "feedback" matter than a "general knife discussion" matter...
If we're going to be taking to the streets with pitchforks and torches, we'll just move this to feedback.
(And yes, I completely agree that transparency is key. You should know where a product is made...at least as far as country of origin.)
Check this link for current data: https://www.cars.com/american-made-index/
As far as knife manufactures go, if they don't explicitly state 100% made in USA, then they are not 100% made in the USA
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Personally I see real value in a discussion about COO practices in the industry. I don't think it gets examined closely enough, frankly. If kept civil, there is a lot to learn here for those that aren't intimately familiar with how companies handle this sort of thing.
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Looks like we got moved to GBU. Fair enough.
FTR, I prefer as much domestically (or by close allies) made as is currently possible, in all things. Country of origin should not be hidden, ever. Doing so makes you look like a scammer, IMO.
FTR, I prefer as much domestically (or by close allies) made as is currently possible, in all things. Country of origin should not be hidden, ever. Doing so makes you look like a scammer, IMO.
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Not that my opinion matters any more or less than someone else's but I stand by the 3 mechforce knives I own are very nice. The roadster and hokkaido have some of the best fit and finish that I've experienced, but I've never held anything like a Koenig or Rosie etc. I've been carrying the hokkaido and really like it thus far. The thumbstuds are nice and large, slightly proud of the frame for easy access, but not cut sharply so they don't tear your thumb and finger up. Lock relief on the inside of the frame, lots of contour on the handles, the backspacer inside is even machined out even though it's not something you will look at. The hollow grind is very deep for a really thin belly, but the tip is really thick and robust. Whoever made it, I can dig it.
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