This should ruffle some feathers

[Cobalt]

These knives below are all named Badger and there are no pending legal actions. But who knows back then.

Entrek Badger Knife

Gemini Badger Knife

Schrade Badger Knife

 

[Liam Ryan]

Jerry is probably well off enough now he doesn't care anymore.

 

[Cobalt]

Jerry is probably well off enough now he doesn't care anymore.

could be I do not know much about patents and trademarks but I can't imagine a common name being owned in any way. Tiger, badger or whatever, but even though I was around I do not remember this issue.

 

[Don Rearic]

These knives below are all named Badger and there are no pending legal actions. But who knows back then.

Entrek Badger Knife

Gemini Badger Knife

Schrade Badger Knife

"But who knows back then."

Point One - They probably have good lawyers too, don't they? Deep pockets to go with them.

Indeed, who knows back then? Who cares too, right? Who cares about Lynn Thompson and Bob Lum from the early 1980s, eh?

Integrity. Picking on a woman over a goddamned animal name, that's integrity. Picking on someone just getting started knowing that involvement with a lawyer and the rest would knock the enterprise right to the ground - cowardice, lack of integrity - ball-less.

And I knew all of this when I posted my first post in the General Forum regarding why "Lynn Thompson Rules" but I didn't really want to go there but if you're going to hold up men like gods, let's call a spade a spade.

Busse is no different from all of the rest. If he makes a good knife, by god, good for him!

As far as the rest is concerned - it's B.S., borderline pagan idolatry.

Anyone that thinks it's not pagan idolatry can take their favorite knife maker's latest brochure and fold it up until it is all sharp corners and shove it in an uncomfortable place.

 

[Cobalt]

Again, I do not hold any one in god status, I do know quality of tools when I see it. Busses are at the top in both price and quality and durability. Certain CS knives are low in cost and offer excellent value for their abilities, like the bushman and some other 1050 series blades they make.


As for the issue, again just because she's a woman doesn't mean she is innocent. I know Jerry and I don't think you could put him in the class of people you would call ball-less, but hey to each his own. I actually like Jerry's Skeleton Add. TO each his own again. We do know Strider went to Jail, we also do know that Lynn Thompson advertises by trying to throw digs at his competition. He openly did it to Busse and got his ass handed to him. He has now done it to strider. But he went a step further with Strider, he did a completely blatant Rip off of striders design. I find that much worse. I am no strider fan, but I still feel that was unnecessary. Lynn could easily have modified the blade to a slightly different look. I met Lynn in the 90's and found him very amicable. His advertising and design theft leaves a little to be desired. But this is again not a discussion I wanted to get into. I avoided that Lynn Thompson Rules thread for that reason and here we are talking about it.

Will I buy CS products, maybe. If I like what they offer.

 

[Don Rearic]

Before I address your statements, I want to say this...

Do you see the way we act in the "Bamboo and Busse" thread? That can be the norm instead of a rarity.

I'm not a moron and you're not either.

Everything I said in the Thompson thread in the General Forum stands as my truth.

Everything I said in this thread is not only my truth, it is THE truth. I know, I read it with my own two eyes.

No one has to hate each other but some people might have to learn a bitter lesson I had to learn and I really, really hate the fact I had to learn it.

You're better off not being "friends" with makers and most sellers in this game. If you're not really friends with them, it's really bad to simply think you are because you have some sort of symbiotic relationship with maker or seller because you own their products.

Now...

Again, I do not hold any one in god status, I do know quality of tools when I see it.

I appreciate that.

Busses are at the top in both price and quality and durability.

I take you at your word and I have no reason to doubt you. I certainly do not dislike you or anything else for your choice, I do not look up nor down at you.

Certain CS knives are low in cost and offer excellent value for their abilities, like the bushman and some other 1050 series blades they make.

I have to get a Bushman I reckon.

As for the issue, again just because she's a woman doesn't mean she is innocent.

Oh my god, I hope you didn't take that from my post. I am being deliberately vague on some issues, I'm not a fan, OK?

As far as the "Badger" issue is concerned, yes, she was innocent and yes, Jerry Busse picked on a woman. If you don't believe it, I can't help you, if you don't like it and want to ignore it, that's not my problem. It happened.

I know Jerry and I don't think you could put him in the class of people you would call ball-less, but hey to each his own.

Apparently you don't know him well enough to know that he shut her down re: Badger name. Eh?

Do you push women around? I see your avatar, she is a very attractive woman, do you consider women objects? I won't ask you if you beat up your wives and girlfriends...do you understand what I'm saying? I've seen Jerry Busse at shows and with a hot number in tow, it was always entertaining. There is a message there, can you figure it out, Cobalt?

OK, Jerry wasn't ball-less as per your definition of ball-less, he's a ******* bully, is that better?

I actually like Jerry's Skeleton Add. TO each his own again.

Like or dislike is not the question, we were talking about hype and advertising as part of the long standing hatred of Lynn Thompson and Cold Steel. Savvy?

We do know Strider went to Jail...

Yes, that was an unfortunate part of Mr. Strider's life and I'm sure he regrets it, equally unfortunate is the fact that he apparently won't stop making some of the same claims he always did which doesn't exactly point to self-rehabilitation.

...we also do know that Lynn Thompson advertises by trying to throw digs at his competition.

Get's pretty outrageous sometimes!

He openly did it to Busse and got his ass handed to him.

Not aware of it and don't really care because I don't care about these things as I find them all to be BULL TURD and waste of my time, probably a waste of your time as well and points to idolatry as I stated before.

He has now done it to strider.

Don't care.

But he went a step further with Strider, he did a completely blatant Rip off of striders design. I find that much worse. I am no strider fan, but I still feel that was unnecessary. Lynn could easily have modified the blade to a slightly different look.

Yeah, he flipped the pommel but I reckon that was not enough. Lynn Thompson had drop point tantos way back when for folders and no one owns paracord either. I don't care anymore about this stuff in the industry.

I met Lynn in the 90's and found him very amicable. His advertising and design theft leaves a little to be desired. But this is again not a discussion I wanted to get into. I avoided that Lynn Thompson Rules thread for that reason and here we are talking about it.

His design theft you are talking about is flatulence in the wind, my friend. It's rampant - when a State Trooper pulls over one guy that is speeding while a dozen others go off, still speeding, yes, I think that sucks. Likewise, simply going after Thompson sucks.

 

[Cobalt]

Don, I think we agree on some points and will disagree on others. I respect your position in the CS thread as well as here.

I think what we can both agree on is that knifemakers as a bunch tend to fight and can be their own worst enemies. You have been around long enough to know that this knifemaker infighting will not end and most of us consumers get cought up in it as well. We can both remember the MAd Dog days along with Ron Hood, strider etc.

Some of these knifemakers who are controversial at times are also very knowledgeable, for example, Busse, and Mike Stewart, as well as a host of others like Rinaldi etc. Their products tend to be at the top and their personalities tend to match. I guess to make it to the top some toes will get stepped on.

as for you and I and everyone else in here, we just get what we like and use it.

 

[skammer]

Memorable Gibsonfan quotes..:thumbup:


Liam, your lack of common sense does not surprise me. Fortunately I know other Kanuks so I know it's not a Canadian thing:thumbup:

As for the girl, your all welcome.:thumbup:

Well siad, keep them pics comming :jerkit: LMAO

Better yet gimme a link.

Simply perfect.

Skam

 

[upnorth]

I bought a Scrapyard SS4 as an EDC because I figured if you are going to carry somethig daily it might as well be the best quality possible. I have a mora clipper and CS shovel in my cars winter survival kit where something that cheap is a good choice.
When I first got the SS4 I tested it fairly hard for an article in a mag and the INFI steel really impressed me but the fit and finish were not nearly as good as a Busse. I batoned that little knife through several dry hardwood boards and it would still shave hair afterwards. It also has far more strength and toughness than a mora or bushman. Because of the superior steel I have since reprofiled the SS4 to a much less obtuse angle where it is razor sharp but can still be used hard. If you tried that with a bushman it would have edge damage.

I see it as there are times when a cheap tough blade like the Bushman is perfect like in a survival kit or a jeep knife. There aretimes when you want the best tool money can buy like if you are motorcycle camping which is how I plan on using my Dogfather this summer. Knives have to trade off one quality for another. Carbon steel knives like the bushman have toughness and value but trade edge retention and corrosion resistance and a bit of strength.
The Dogfather (S7) has incredible toughness and strength not quite as much value and trades some edge retention and corrosion.

My SS4infi has everything but value ,the S7 version of the SS4 is only going to be 69.00$ Upnorth and you other cheap guys should really like thios as it is a big step up from the Bushman. It has better steel with great heat treat and a terrific handle as well as the same warranty as a 700$ Busse.

You bet Unsub. Although your language use is a little crude (cheap guys), Im not worried about semantics, as I know what you mean. I was staying out of all this because of the flying fur, but yes, Im seriously looking at a SCRAPYARD model or two. Im hot for the Dogfather but aleady have that Becker Brute so might go for something in the 6-7 inch range. Ya sure.....you watch Ill probably wind up with a Dogfather ,lol. I just cant shake out of the big knives. I do not believe that I have put anyone or any knife down in previous posts. I have stated that I am ignorant in some areas and Im learning. I also believe that I said that I currently cant find a use for a Mora, as my SAK and or Kershaw Storm fills the bill in my mind quite well. I am trying to save $$$ to go back to school in the fall and I have to make tough choices at times. At the same time Im not rummaging through trash bins for returnable cans. I just have to prioritize. If this means a SCRAPYARD over a Busse, fine, I can live with that because I like what I read and saw on their site. Plus favourable mention on this site. If some here dont like my choice fine, Ill be out in the bush chopping wood and enjoying myself immensely As for these CS Bushman knives. I would just as soon put one of those in my pack as a Mora, as an inexpensive tool that I could lose and not be upset over. Kind of in the SAK category in my mind. Obviously all have their strengths, weaknesses and it is up to individual freedom of choice in what you pack.

 

[Don Rearic]

Don, I think we agree on some points and will disagree on others. I respect your position in the CS thread as well as here.

I think what we can both agree on is that knifemakers as a bunch tend to fight and can be their own worst enemies. You have been around long enough to know that this knifemaker infighting will not end and most of us consumers get cought up in it as well. We can both remember the MAd Dog days along with Ron Hood, strider etc.

Some of these knifemakers who are controversial at times are also very knowledgeable, for example, Busse, and Mike Stewart, as well as a host of others like Rinaldi etc. Their products tend to be at the top and their personalities tend to match. I guess to make it to the top some toes will get stepped on.

as for you and I and everyone else in here, we just get what we like and use it.

There it is.

I answered your contact, BTW. Everything is cool.