This should ruffle some feathers

[roughedges]

Roughedges, did you actually read the whole thread?
He isn't calling all busse owners jackasses, just those two
particular ones. (though they tend to travel together a lot,
and rat answered for cobalt about christina model, methinks
they are one and the same.)

yep, read the whole thread. every post. and nowhere in it did I see cause for gibsonfan to respond as he did.

as for rat and cobalt being one and the same... are you friggen serious? please, tell me you are kidding.

 

[Liam Ryan]

I have a scraper 4 and just got the DogFather and I have a scraper 6. All three are excellent fit and finish and severely sharp and will outlast a mora, bushman, and whatever else you can think of in your low price range. I would say that their reduced quality control is still light years ahead of Mora, CS, Ontario and whatever else you would like to throw in there.




Busse Hype?? not likely...

do this with a bushman and a mora and see how they become boomerangs

Nice to know that my Busse can do this:

and yet look like this afterwards:

I have done this hundreds of times and never broke an edge or bent an edge with a busse. I have broken and bent edges on many cheap knives


can you do this with yours and survive. I have done this thousands of times.





I use to think like this until I broke most of them, then I sold the rest and bought quality.




you can't say this and not expect a response can you? I have no problem with whatever you own or buy, as that is your business and I will never fault you for it if you think it is good enough for you. But when you trample on what I like and then sit there and tell me it isn't worth it when you have never even owned one, what do we call people like that??





yes you are and I'll call you on it. Again you are not wanting to stir the poop yet you continue with your digs.

I can tell you that not one of your CHEAP knives could survive a year of what I put them through. I need stout knives that will not let me down when I am away from civilization for extended periods of time. Oh and I am not the only one who feels this way.

By no means am I only talking of Busse/Swamp/Scrap knives. I am talking about all the quality custom and production fixed blades out there. The old adage you get what you pay for is true 99% of the time. You telling me all those custom knives are CRAP?!?!?






No it isn't that and it has not been for a long time. This forum appears to be an exclusive club. If you don't fit the mold you are not included in discussions. you can't own a quality knife here..





I have no problem with smeone sayng they cannot afford a Busse.
Survival is not frugality, that is having the means or not having the means. frugality has nothing to do with survival. I own the busse and I can still buy foods.

There are different levels of survival. What most people talk about is not true survival. True SURVIVAL would be like crashing a plane and and having to survive with whatever is at hand, which most likly means no Busse, no Mora no Bushman, no SAK, no leatherman etc.

PLANNED SURVIVAL is what you mostly talk about. You have a B.O.B. and you stock it with what you feel necessary. I would not want to be "FRUGAL" when stocking my BOB and when my life depends on it, but if you want to be FRUGAL with your life at stake, then by all means go for it.

I think when he swooped in out of nowhere with this garbage was like a slap in the face to a lot of us here. A few pretty innocent comments led to that?
seriously.
It was a matter of a couple of hours that the "two" of them showed up together, what did he do, go grab his buddy for help? (looks like he got another one btw:jerkit: ) I have never seen either of them post in wilderness and survival before.
actually, I think I remember cobalt asked about some ideas about what to put in his backpack for edc.

 

[Don Rearic]

The current flavor of Haterade is Lynn Thompson and Cold Steel, so, when people post positive stuff about LT/CS, this is going to happen until they get shut down which is probably going to be never.

 

[RescueRiley]

whether it's a busse or a mora or your a weekend warrior or a cowboy....we're all here to share a great place and to learn from eachother....I've learned sooo much from being here and, felt like I found a small little community where I belong despite my preoccupation with edged implements and the outdoors....It makes me a little sad to see people feuding and getting all hot, over things like this....I've seen it on a couple of threads now....Let's all get along...if we're hiking together and you got a busse and we need to blaze a trail....I'd sure be glad your there,,,,but when we take a brake and it's time to spread the peanut butter You might be glad I have a mora...just a thought...To quote a tv shopw theme song form the 80's "The world don't move to the beat of just one drum....What might be right for you may not be right for some" just my 02

 

[Magnum22]

just when you thought this thread couldn't get worse, a poster conspiracy theory is born. it's no longer about knives, it's about egos. here's hopin no one gets banned.

 

[1whitefoot]

 

[Cobalt]

"No one asked you!"

If you take the time to read something other than whatever titilates your adolescent "my-dick-is-bigger-than-yours" response,

I'm probably breaking a rule by cussing in this thread, and if I get banned for it that's no one's fault but mine, but here goes. FUCK YOU RatFinkenstein and Cobalt for bringing your "snob" mentality into a thread that has nothing to do with the knives you like.

You're trolling in the worst way, and you know it. Go piss up a rope with your platinum and gold memberships, boldface type and elitist, bullshit attitudes.

Memorable Gibsonfan quotes..:thumbup:

As I stated in several responses here. I have no problem with what anyone uses as long as they feel it's worthy for them. Don't slam what I like and ask me to sit down and take it. REREAD THIS THREAD and tell me you were not SLAMMING the other companies.

Liam and Gibsonfan, you might just be one and the same. You both like stirring the crap and accusing others of doing so. I say your record in the past, Liam, speaks for itself. You are without a doubt a Troll and I would not be surprised to see banning in your future, because your true colors will eventually come out one too many times. As for Liam, well just search history of postings and all will be apparent. He stirs more crap than anyone else.

Gibsonfan, you showed your true colors in very short order and I need not say more about you. In my response I told you why I responded. If your gonna talk crap then you should expect somone to make you eat it when it isn't true. Saying that Scrapyard knives has less quality control is a lie, those are your words not scrapyards. If you knew anything about manufacturing you know that a good company may skimp on materials and final finishing, but they would be idiotic to skimp on QC, this tells me that you have very little knowledge about what goes into making products. Oh, and this is not a private forum, though that is what you are trying to make it, so as for people staying out, if you don't like it you can leave as well. As for your Cuss Words, I am surprised the MODS haven't stepped in and deleted them and possibly banned you. I surely hope they do not ban you, as I for one need some comedy relief.:thumbup:

Liam, your lack of common sense does not surprise me. Fortunately I know other Kanuks so I know it's not a Canadian thing:thumbup:

As for the girl, your all welcome.:thumbup:

 

[roughedges]

I think when he swooped in out of nowhere with this garbage was like a slap in the face to a lot of us here. A few pretty innocent comments led to that?
seriously.
It was a matter of a couple of hours that the "two" of them showed up together, what did he do, go grab his buddy for help? (looks like he got another one btw:jerkit: ) I have never seen either of them post in wilderness and survival before.
actually, I think I remember cobalt asked about some ideas about what to put in his backpack for edc.

congratulations, you're the first person to make my ignore list. Wear it like a badge of honor.

1. I've spoken to cobalt specifically exactly once, several days prior to my having even known of this thread's existence.

2. a few "pretty innocent comments" are what derailed this thread long before cobalt made his post.

3. I have a knife for every use. if you check my post history you would see that I recently, in the BUSSE forum no less (theres that bold print again), said that all a skilled person NEEDED in the woods was a Mora. Need and want, however, are two seperate things.

"out of nowhere", you say? To quote you one last time, "seriously".

if you truly think that cobalt and rat are the same person (and that they are my buddies) I suggest you ask your doctor to up your meds. I don't know them and I don't owe them. We just happen to have a similar, though not identical, taste in knives.

 

[Cobalt]

Hey Guys...

I as well own thousands of dollars woirth of Busse knives, as well as several hundred dollars worth of Moras..

Tomorrow night and Saturday I'll be teaching our venture group firemaking, I'll be bringing a host of different knives, including Busse, Moras, a Tops Anaconda 9, Sog, Cold Steel and a few customs...

I respect Cobalt, you are a valuable member here, however I just wanted to touch quickly upon something you said with your pictures, (which were Very well done BTW)

Although I know my knives will pry and dig holes,, I hardly never,, if ever put them in these kinds of situations (except the time I pryed the top of a car door open with a Battle Mistress so a clothes hanger could be inserted in, or the time I pryed the crinkle out of a door hinge for a cop at the on/scene,, umm I mean scene of a car accident)..

If I'm going to dig,, I'll make a digging stick, or use a different too,, if I'm going to pry anything heavy I'll get a prybar...
However it is nice to know that it will do that..

I would not put my Moras through that kind of trauma,, not because they won't do it(and if it bends,,it is doing what it is suppose to do),, but because it's not the right tool for the job...

I'd also like to correct the term "cheap" (Not sure who said it), however Moras aren't cheap,, they are inexpensive,, theres a huge difference...The Mora is a fine cutting instrument and should be used as such...


As far as expensive knives vs inexpensive knives go... I don't look down on people for carrying either..It's all about what you can afford and enjoy.. Exactly what Skunk said about cars...

I seen all of the weekend terroists (tourists) up north out of Toronto driving their shiny Mercedez 4 wheel drive SUVs that haven't seen offroad in their lives,, and here we are driving a F150, dirty,smelly of rotten meat going places offroad that these SUVs would never dream of.. Or the dipshit that got suck on our trail with is Escalade and we drove around him.

I look at it this way..

We are all here for the same purpose and thats knives.. We all have the love for the same tool, we just all buy different brand names...

Enjoy..

ttyle

Eric
O/ST

Eric, agreed. In fact, I have heard so much good about Mora's that I am actually going to go out and buy a few. Too many positive reviews for me not to try them. I will use them as intended of course. Still doesn't take away from the fact that some think it's ok to throw insults and BS and not expect retaliation.

I figured Liam out on the strider thread a while back. When I saw him in here along with the title to this thread, walla!

I think Roughedges put it best in his last few postings. The only INSULTS thrown were from Liam and Gibsonfan. Again, character always comes out.

 

[mrd74]

To bad this thread went to crap, I was quite enjoying it before the "politics" kicked in. I'm just going to buy a Bushman and mod it, use it and enjoy owning it and not read this thread any more. Thanks to those that posted pics of their altered Bushmans, you gave me ideas for a new project.

 

[Tohatchi NM]

I really like inexpensive knives (Opinel, Mora, etc.) because I'm not afraid to use/abuse/mod or do whatever to them. I can tweak them until they fit the purpose at hand (EDC, survival, BOB, wall hanger, etc.)

I really like expensive knives (Busse, Reeve, etc.) because they are already pretty darn perfect, and I can abuse them if necessary. There are certainly things I would do with a busse that I wouldn't expect a Mora to take. There are also lots of fine slicing tasks I would prefer my Opinel over a Busse.

It's pretty darn nice to be able to have this argument at all - being able to try out different knives, including some that cost more than the annual income of many people in the world. I get to try stuff until I find something that does the job for me - whether it's a $1000, $100, $10, or some sharp piece of glass I have to improvise with.

IMHO, the best knife is the one you have with you, providing you have the experience to use it. Also, best not to knock a product until you try it.

Sorry for contributing to the thread drift. Now off to buy a Bushman to field-test against my Natural Outlaw. We'll see how much of a performance difference you get for 10x the price.

 

[Fonly]

Eric, agreed. In fact, I have heard so much good about Mora's that I am actually going to go out and buy a few. Too many positive reviews for me not to try them. I will use them as intended of course. Still doesn't take away from the fact that some think it's ok to throw insults and BS and not expect retaliation.

I use to think like this until I broke most of them, then I sold the rest and bought quality.

uh huh, funny.

 

[Cobalt]

uh huh, funny.

I thought one from Canada was enough. Did southpark movie get it right? I never said Moras, I said cheap knives. But if you wish to continue I am absolutely relentless. :thumbup:

 

[pict]

OK this is out of left field but looking at the Busse picture above I was wondering. If you flex one that far and then suddenly let go, how far does it fly? For the last several days I've been busting up a concrete foundation in my backyard. My knife? Um... Sledgehammer, big iron bar, and a pickaxe.

The Bushman is a great buy and if they float your boat go for it.

If I could afford $300 knives I probably would have a few too.

I use Moras, a BK-7 and Tramontina machetes and have never felt the lack of more expensive blades in the bush of central Brazil. Are they "The Best"? No, but neither am I.

Seriously, this thread is way too heavy on invective and pretty slim on useful knowlege, it might be in there but who can wade through it? Breate in... exhale, repeat, Breate in... exhale... now hit that delete button and go do something real. Mac

 

[bikermikearchery]

This thread was started about cold steel bushman (IMO) a good piece of equipment. If you have one, have had any experience with one, good or bad. I would love to hear of it.
If you don't own one, have never owned one, don't ever want one. Why are you trying to irritate the rest of us.
This thread was started about Cold steel bushman.
I would love to hear from some one who has had a bad experience with a cold steel bushman first hand. I would love to hear see pictures of the modifications done by some of the people who have a bushman.
I've got some great story's about some of the adventures I have been having with my bushman, but its hard to wade through the BS being spread around by some who have not, will not, do not, have a bushman.
Again why are you trying to irritate the rest of us.
Take your busse and go to the busse thread with your busse friends.
you have your right to your opinion, but you have pirated a thread about bushmans for your own agenda, or brand, or what ever.

 

[Cobalt]

OK this is out of left field but looking at the Busse picture above I was wondering. If you flex one that far and then suddenly let go, how far does it fly?

LOL...don't know but I would not want to be in it's way. Imagine flexing a large machete and letting it go, that might be even scarier.

 

[SubaruSTi]

I'll take a busse combat, not because its flashy (most are not) but because it works.

 

[RescueRiley]

Mike I'd like to hear about you're adventures with your bushman... Reading the pre civil wat part of this thread made me want to get one bad...I also went back and researched the bushman psk thread from a few weeks ago...a dude but a little rubber cap (like from the bottom of a cane) on his handle to hold in some gear looked pretty cool... snd I was pretty impressed with it's performance on knifetests.com...

 

[Cobalt]

This thread was started about cold steel bushman (IMO) a good piece of equipment. If you have one, have had any experience with one, good or bad. I would love to hear of it.
If you don't own one, have never owned one, don't ever want one. Why are you trying to irritate the rest of us.
This thread was started about Cold steel bushman.
I would love to hear from some one who has had a bad experience with a cold steel bushman first hand. I would love to hear see pictures of the modifications done by some of the people who have a bushman.
I've got some great story's about some of the adventures I have been having with my bushman, but its hard to wade through the BS being spread around by some who have not, will not, do not, have a bushman.
Again why are you trying to irritate the rest of us.
Take your busse and go to the busse thread with your busse friends.
you have your right to your opinion, but you have pirated a thread about bushmans for your own agenda, or brand, or what ever.

oh you mean people who do not discuss Bushmans should leave? So these guys should leave as well! as they all posted this before I ever came along! I guess your another one who only sees what he wishes to see..

DUDE.

Welcome to the Wilderness forum where Busse, Sebenza and Strider are all just the names associated with knives that cost too much.
.

Not trying to stir things up, but when I think survival, I think frugality. I can buy a lotta canned goods and savings bonds for the price of a Busse

Couldn't have said it better, Sure it would be cool, But man. I can Buy 25-30 Mora 2000 for the price of a FBM, I know what i'd be doin

I am curious to see what all this fuss over infi is all about, but I dont think im 300$ or so curious.

As to Busse family products, if you got the money to run around in the woods with a 400 plus dollar knife more power to you. INFI = hype and Lynn Thompson got nothin on Busse knives for that.

From what I gather from their website, ScrapYard is Busse without the quality control. The second sentence reads in part, "..his fit and finish were secondary concerns..." Their steel comes from scrap bins. Their words, not mine.

Oops, now I'm the one talkin' smack... SOOOO... who's got thier new Bushman's yet?

Oh and this is an open forum so your request is meaningless. In fact I may invite some friends over so we can have our own real discussions without bashing other peoples knives like many of you seem to do.

Anytime you want to stop and just talk bushman go for it. I do own Bushmans by the way. They are a decent knife. Want to see pics

 

[Fonly]

Please do, I wouldn't mind. :yawn: