Thoughts on a more "modern" 110 and/or 112...

El_Toro said:
A few weeks back I discovered and pre-ordered a new knife that Cold Steel is coming out with called, "The Broken Skull". I don't really care for the name (or the way it's printed largely on the blade flat), however the simple design of the knife intrigued me. Here is a picture of it...

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It's blade is a little larger at 4" and the clip point more aggressive, however I immediately thought of the Buck 110 when I saw this knife. I would love to see Buck come up with new versions of the 110 and 112 that have 420HC blades, flat G-10 handle scales, thumb studs, and pocket clips. I know they made the limited edition 110 Lochsa a few years back, and while close (and mucho $$$) it's not quite what I have in mind. I'm thinking of full G-10 handle scales, assembled with Torx screws, and an actual pivot screw with washers, as opposed to a brass/nickel bolster with a peened pin as the pivot. Also, the handle should either be linerless or have nestled partial liners, similar to what Spyderco does with their Military Model, making it a very light weight knife. The knife would have to retain the back lock though, no liner lock!

While I love my traditional 110's and 112's, I find myself rarely carrying them. I don't really like carrying folders in a belt sheath and I also have too many other things in my pockets to comfortably carry one there. I always find myself reaching for one of my more modern "one handed" opening knives that I carry using a pocket clip.

Anyhow, I was curious if anyone else shares my thoughts in hoping for a 110/112 assembled in a similar way to that new Cold Steel knife that I pictured above? While Buck already has modern style folders, I think a "re-imagined" modern version of these classics would be big sellers!
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Buck rocks it. Plus they offer the spa service which makes any old knife look new.
 
The Paperstone model 110 was a nice option for reduced weight while keeping the same dimensions. Bring that back! My only enhancement would be to redesign the blade to include a thumb hole at the rear of the blade for easy opening.
 
@Makael, not exactly what you getting at by replying to my post with only a picture. Other than having a synthetic handle, that knife isn't really any different than the paperstone EcoLites I mentioned a few posts back. Other than being lighter, either one of those versions is pretty much the same knife as the original 110/112.

On another topic, regarding one of Bucks current modern style pocket knives, the Spitfire, I found to be quite lacking. I purchased one last year and found it to have horrible blade play, both up/down and side to side. I know this one is supposed to be an inexpensive entry-level pocket knife, however I was expecting more from something made here in the US. Between the cheap feeling aluminum handle and blade play, it felt to much like a flea market knife, so I promptly returned it.

Looking at Buck's website, I just found the Vantage Pro Large, which is closer to what I have in mind for a modern version of the 110/112. Just put a 110/112 blade on it, ditch the liner lock for a back lock, and we are there! :)
 
It has a Titanium scales. It just looks like to me the cold steel is similiar to the pic I posted. Try a marksman knife. Vantage pro with S30V is nice. Is that cold steel made in china?
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I bought two Lochsa because of the 100.00 each price tag. I don't think that's too much for limited run, S30V, G10 American knife.
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Love the vantage pro in S30V.
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Or pick up Heavy Duty CSART. You might like that.

Personally I like everything buck does. In all styles but think the 110 is perfect.
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I would simply love a pocket clip option out of the Buck custom shop for the 110/112...

I'd buy one next paycheck if that was an option;
s30v, nickel, pins, grooves, stag, CLIP....

Can't bring myself around to pull the trigger with a sheath only option though...

G10, Micarta, and CF scale options would be intriguing as well...
*(I'd also love to see BOS ht'd ELMAX, and a US made Selkirk with a steel upgrade)
 
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strategy9 said:
I would simply love a pocket clip option out of the Buck custom shop for the 110/112...

I'd buy one next paycheck if that was an option;
s30v, nickel, pins, grooves, stag, CLIP....

Can't bring myself around to pull the trigger with a sheath only option though...

G10, Micarta, and CF scale options would be intriguing as well...
*(I'd also love to see BOS ht'd ELMAX, and a US made Selkirk with a steel upgrade)
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The Lachsa is still too wide. Should be thinned down to something in the 13mm range. IMO.
 
I'd definitely like to see Buck modernize the 110/112 and not go too far away from the original design. A lot of people like me tend to purchase a new one every few years.

1. Keep the same blade shape and length. Add a thumb stud (or hole) and carry clip and it would make it a much more useful and versatile knife.

2. G10, aluminum, or micarta scales to lighten weight. I mean I carry my 110/112 in my pocket about 90% of the time anyway and hardly ever use the sheath.

3. Put some jimping on the blade. I purchased a Puma folder that is very similar to the 110 and found that the jimping made the knife excellent for skinning and gutting game. Gave it better control in my hand when my thumb had something to grip. Sadly I've been rotating it out with the 110 and have found myself grabbing the Puma more these days because of that feature.

Well it's nice to imagine. I hope someone at Buck is listening ... A lot of traditionalists don't want to see change but that's how innovation happens. As long as they continue to make them right here in the USA, that's what matters most to me.
 
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Remember that 560(?) Ti handled 110? Why not just do that but with aluminum handles? I think aluminum is a strong enough material and it would be lighter and could be made a little thinner. I wonder if it would be possible to email buck a list of all the "Lightweight Buck 110" threads. All 5,000 of them. It seems like it would sell. Why waste time on things like spears and pocket knives with firestarters when there is a goldmine to be raided.
 
I realize the LE Lochsa has a pocket clip.

That doesn't make me feel better though, but rather is just all the more reason it shouldn't be a huge issue to offer it as an option on all customizable 110's. If they can put it on the g10 Lochsa, why can't I pay to have it as an option on the bolter of a custom stag with nickle & finger grooves?
 
Something different than a 110 would be a different model. You cannot deviate too far from the original after 50 years and still a very strong seller. Now maybe call it something different would be fine but a 110 or 112 is just that forever. Over 15 million strong and still a best seller, holy crap. I think Buck has offered similiar models over the years that have a blade shape similiar if not exactly the same. They come and go much like every other brand out there. The 110 series is a solid product. They offer it all kinds of materials, what other knife can you have so many straight from the factory. Go custom and the choices are crazy.
 
Nobody is suggesting changing the 110 or 112.

The custom shop choices are relatively limited compared to the range of options being discussed here. No matter how you spec it, you end up with a brick best carried in a belt holster. That's a limiting issue these days. Many (traditional) types want thinner and lighter for clipless pocket carry. Many more modern types want clips. Both want a knife that looks like a 110 or 112.

For traditional types wanting a thinner clipless knife like the 110 and 112, the choice is obvious. GEC.
For modern types the choice appears to be Cold Steel.

That's a dirty rotten shame, IMO.

I wish Buck would make 3 variants of the 110/112.
1) the standard brass originals unchanged
2) a thinner (13mm thick) Ecolite reboot (needs to be prettier)
3) a G10, thumbstuds and pocket clip version

When placed side by each, everybody should be able to recognize them as 110s. If I were king...
 
Looks like this knife is a limited run designed in partnership with Steve Austin who's apparently an avid knife collector and by the looks of this broken skull model, he borrowed some of his inspirations from the 110. I can wait and see what special stuff Buck does with the 110 line. So yeah for now I'll just go with what else they offer under the brand.
 
It seems like these days I have more and more stuff in my pockets than ever before. Wallet, keys, cell phone, small flashlight and sometimes I think going back to a sheath knife for edc seems like the way to go to have one less thing in my pockets. Maybe if Buck didn't change the 110, but maybe changed the sheath so it didn't stick out so much. I don't usually tuck in a shirt and the nylon is not very noticeable, but with the old Bucklite sheaths, you can't even tell your wearing a sheath. I'd love it if they made sheaths like the old bucklite sheaths again, or if they could make a sheath like the Bucklite sheath out of leather? I have an old 1967 110 and the old style sheath seems a little more low profile or even make a holster type sheath that didn't snap like the old 501 sheaths.
But yeah, maybe leave the knife alone and redesign the sheath ?
 
jec88 said:
Maybe if Buck didn't change the 110, but maybe changed the sheath so it didn't stick out so much.
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I agree. I've never liked the traditional 110 sheath. In this day and age it sticks out too much and people see it right away and it screams "knife". It's just too open. That's why I pocket carry my 110. How hard would it be for Buck to modify the slot on the back to allow for horizontal carry? That would be easier to conceal on the belt with a shirt tucked over.
 
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