Thoughts on the new GLOCK 42?

Sweet Mama! How long is the barrel on that?

First shot I've seen of the new G41

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Looks like the 42 is still going to be a thick pistol for its size. If it is not a lot thinner than a 36 I think I would rather carry the 36.
That is if I were going to carry a subcompact Glock. I have tried them and my hand just does not like them. In a .380 I would go Sig 232 or Walther PPKS hands down.
 
As a Glock (and 380) fan, I'm glad to see the 42. If it had come out even a year ago I'd be first in line. But I already have a coupla 380's that I like. I AM first in line to beta test the R51.

Glock will sell a long ton of 'em just because they say 'GLOCK' on the slide and gunshop racks will be choked with lightly used 380's from other manufacturers at bargain prices.
 
Underwood and Buffalo Bore now make some HOT .380 ammo, thats pretty close to std velocity 9mm. In my Colt Mustang II currently, is the Underwood +P 102gr Golden Sabres at 1060fps. Those suckers recoil more like a hot 9mm then a .380. Especially from the little Mustang. The backup mag is the Underwood +P 100gr Cast flat nose solid tip at 1150fps. Figure if I'm still in the fight when a reload is needed, they'll be behind cover. I think those rounds placed well, would do just fine thank you very much.

In my mind, many older and even some current .380s really aren't designed for such hot ammo. I'd be willing to guess the 42 would be easily up to the job. As they are for the hottest 9mm(I use Underwood +P+ Gold Dots in all my Glock 9mm's) .

Also my wife stated the other day that she needs to learn to shoot. I have several 9s and .45s. But no other .380 other then the Colt. This 42 would possibly be on the short list for her to learn to carry and use.
 
I predict that they are going to sell a ton of them to women and casual male shooters that just don't want the recoil or perceive the need for the increased power from going up to a 9mmP. 2/3's of the cops and deputies that I know around here (and I know a lot of them) have an LCP for a pocket/ ankle or off duty gun, and most of them complain that they are hard to hang on to with short grips and have pretty crappy sights.

Ruger is selling a lot of LC380s, Bersa is selling a lot of .380s, Kahr, Keltec, you name it, so why wouldn't Glock want a piece of that action? Makes perfect market sense to me. It is smallish, but you can get more fingers on the grip than an LCP, it is flat, light, and should go bang nicely. If it streets in the $350-375 range it will likely knock a big hole in LCP and LC380 sales.

I'm more excited about the Remington r51 which is the same size as a Ruger LCP 9 mm, but allows for full house 9mm +P. It's a 7+1. Sure it looks a little funky, but the design pays homage to it's predecessor, and the mechanism is not seen in any other firearm except its predecessor. MSRP is supposed to be 389. It's supposed to be available in late February. It's a single action, internal hammer fired gun with a trigger that moves straight back and does not pivot...like a 1911. It only has a grip safety. The barrel does not move, and the bore axis is as low as can be. It comes with an ambi mag release and two magazines. Aluminum frame, steel barrel and slide. The gun looks like a Walther PPK, HK P7, and HK4 all had a lovechild.

I agree with you. This is the one that I am most excited about so far. A buddy of mine owns a couple 51s and I have shot them a fair bit and was just considering picking up a vintage one. I am very pleased with the look, features and price point of this new version. I may well buy the first one that I see...



Looks like the 42 is still going to be a thick pistol for its size. If it is not a lot thinner than a 36 I think I would rather carry the 36.
That is if I were going to carry a subcompact Glock. I have tried them and my hand just does not like them. In a .380 I would go Sig 232 or Walther PPKS hands down.

check out the comparison pics to a 26 over at www.gunsholstersandgear.com . It looks much flatter than the 26.
 
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My favorite .380 is still the Sig P238 and seems hard to beat.

Want a small polymer gun with a crappy trigger, why not just get a LCP. No way the 42 is going to beat it in price.

I personally sold my .380 and carry an XDs in .45 when I need to pocket carry.
 
I'll have to pass. The Kahr PM9 is thinner, shorter in length and height and lighter.... AND it isn't a .380. It's a 9mm. Not to mention the superior trigger. Don't like a 9mm? Get the Kahr PM40 in .40 S&W... it is the same size. Why would Glock make a .380 larger than a competitor's 9mm and .40 offerings? It really doesn't seem to make much sense to me.

I own several Glocks and really like them. But the 42 isn't really much smaller than the G27. It fills a niche that many pistols in superior calibers already fill. I don't see the benefit here.

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This pistol scratches no itch for me....


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First of all, I love my Glocks. The Glock 19 is my favorite pistol platform, and I have shot/owned many types. I just don't understand the 42. That's some serious poo to make it in 380. Why the crap wouldn't you make it 9mm?! WHY GLOCK WHY?!!!!! I know they will get the lady market but seriously look out for the individuals that have owned and used Glocks for years that have been asking for a slim-lined pocket 9 from you! I'm very unimpressed with the 42. If someone I know buys one, I'll throw some rounds down range with the 42....most likely I'll never touch one. Kind of a waste.
 
I first handled the 42 on Friday, for a Glock, it's a cute little turd. Small enough to pocket carry. Going to sell a lot to guys who are buying guns for their wives. They think well I carry a glock, and now so can my girlfriend/wife/etc since she doesn't like my doublestack model. Since I don't like glock, I couldn't care less about them being late in the 380 market, but it will sell, if it works. Part of me want this model to be a flop in the reliability department but the other part of me doesn't want to hear customers complain more than they do

As for the hate for the 42, Glock actually came out with something new, you should be impressed by that little fact. They'll probably come out with a single stack 9 or 40, they probably already have it in the works. 2015 will be here soon enough


And I may have been really hungover, but I feel like this picture is a lie. In hand and by eye, the 42 seemed smaller than the R51.
 
My interest in the Glock 42 would be entirely based on the thickness as I have always felt Glocks a bit fat for a concealed carry gun for me. Since it is a Glock, I would expect it to function nearly flawlessly.
 
Why would Glock make a .380 larger than a competitor's 9mm and .40 offerings?

Small caliber in a larger frame can allow for an amazing upgrade in shot placement for many people. Walther is doing OK w/ the PK380 I believe,
maybe that's the market being targeted here, not so much the LCP or Kahr.
 
my hand is up,. Keltec is an excellent choice. The .380 with the correct load, will do above what you need the gun for. The 9mm is certainly not my choice period. But is seems everyone is comparing the choices just to the 9mm. First I don't know philllllll's hand size . That being said I like the keltec size and the dependability. When the other small frames have shot millions of rounds over 20 plus years, I'd say go for it, but with groups from local law enforcement to military agents carrying the keltec .380 as BACKUP, I like it. You can always upgrade to larger grips, with size xxl hand, 18.5 ring size the frame fits me great. Next size up, still carry... .40 cal period.. 9.mm has been shelved by those who know, can make a choice, and who use it daily for defense. Great cal., but in close gets you killed, or others.


Everyone who volunteers to be shot with a .380 hold up your hand. :rolleyes:


The 42 has to be made in the USA, because they are not allowed to import a .380
 
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