Time for Buck to make an otf

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Der Verminator said:
Oh, I think the case can be made that a switchblade is NOT "just like any other knife."

It's different, and in a very special way.

That's pretty obvious and indisputable. That's why there are laws against them.

They are not knives of the outdoorsman, fisherman and hunter.

I don't like them. If you do, that's fine.

To each his own.
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The heck it aint! So what if you push a button to open it. How does that make it worthy of having laws against! Your fixed blade doesnt even have to be deployed so why arnt they illegal. The individual that is going to use this in a crime will likely be good enough with a folder he will deploy nearly as quick and would likely have it deployed anyway.
The laws in these situations are only there to destroy your FREEDOM!
 
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Anyone who argues that an OTF auto is any more dangerous than a modern folder obviously has never handled one. The modern flippers are nearly as fast to deploy. Where the OTF shines is it closes just as fast as it opens. Unlike a liner lock that you have to put a finger in the blade's path to close, or a lock back that with one hand on the lock you have to use something else to close the blade.

Switch blades are illegal for the same reason suppressors are. The people who wrote and passed the laws got their education from TV and movies. Had they had any practical experience with either of those items they'd seen how silly their laws concerning them are!

So if you're one of the uninformed who feel that switchblades are rightfully illegal; you should leave this site and not come back until you're properly educated.
 
Some deeply held feelings have clearly been laid bare here. Raw nerves are exposed.

We'll just have to agree to disagree. Doesn't sound like anyone is changing their opinions on this.
 
I've read thru here 3 times, and haven't read a post that somebody said they are rightfully illegal......

As soon as Buck came out with the auto, I looked into the law in my state, saw that it was legal, so I bought one.

I would want better clarification on the whole otf thing.
I'd probably buy one as well.
But I could go with-out.....

I'm sure they are cool tho. I'd like to handle one once.

Thanks.

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Sorry. I see some posts got deleted, and I didn't get a chance to read em....
Please excuse me.
 
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Not for me. The classic 110 auto I think is great and I bought one, as well as some of their other autos (which I didn't like as well). I'm not an otf fan myself, don't see how it would fit in the Buck line, and I'm not sure they would sell enough to justify the investment. If there was huge demand I think others would be in that space.
 
ohen cepel said:
Not for me. The classic 110 auto I think is great and I bought one, as well as some of their other autos (which I didn't like as well). I'm not an otf fan myself, don't see how it would fit in the Buck line, and I'm not sure they would sell enough to justify the investment. If there was huge demand I think others would be in that space.
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Buck must evolve with the market, and they truly have offerings for those looking for a quality design that are modern. Otherwise they lose out on a part of the market.

Best example is that 110 auto where for ever people would modify the 110 to be auto with Buck losing out on that market. Then Buck got into the market and took all the customers looking for an auto 110.

Tooling costs to make an otf would be in line with any other expansions that a knife company would be considering as r&d.

Demand is huge where a quality otf from a reputable manufacturer reflects an expensive purchase price due to this. And again demand will only increase as more and more states make them legal increasing customer base dramatically. Now is the time to get on before the next set of states are in!
 
The 110 otf, I also had to get a shot of concept!

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Now you tell me that's not sexy?!?!
 
Yo Mama said:
The 110 otf, I also had to get a shot of concept!

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Now you tell me that's not sexy?!?!
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Uh, No not sexy. Coyote ugly is more the term that comes to my mind. If Buck ever does decide to make an OTF, I hope they at least make it look good.

O.B.
 
I like the idea of a quality OTF under $200 from a great manufacturer such as Buck that stands behind it products. It is just another locking mechanism and folks can like it or not, just as with lock back, slip joint, compression, Axis, assisted, liner lock, etc.

I think Buck could offer a sturdy no frills knife at reasonable cost, then later offer upgrades like they do on the 110 for steels and covers/scales. As much as I like the 110, I don't think the clip point is the best blade shape for OTF. A straight blade with one side edge and spear point would be simple yet still have the great Buck grinds. 420HC steel is plenty good for a base model. And I would like it to be double action to maximize the one-handedness. I would really like it to be sturdy so it could be used for hard work since I would like it for when my hands are full and I need to make a cut with minimal effort and disruption. To me all those qualities say “Buck.”

Laws on possession of any object only affect the law abiding. I was a kid in the 60s and it was illegal in my state to own automatics knives. Yet, any 12 year old boy could easily buy any number of the stiletto style automatics from someone at school. Few did because most of us already had jack knives and sheath knives. Any one bent on criminal violence is not going to be deterred by some possession law whether it is guns, knives, or clubs. And just because someone prefers some other style is not a good reason to outlaw any specific style. The danger is in the mind not the tool. If I wanted to wreak mayhem I would carry a framing hammer not a knife.
 
I dont know. Buck has veered away from Tactical Knives and OTF has that aura about them. If they did venture down that road I would think a higher price tag would be needed. The Auto 110 PRO runs almost 200 by itself and is not nearly as complicated.

Either way I guess if they did build one that would be great.
 
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Buck must evolve with the market, and they truly have offerings for those looking for a quality design that are modern. Otherwise they lose out on a part of the market.

Best example is that 110 auto where for ever people would modify the 110 to be auto with Buck losing out on that market. Then Buck got into the market and took all the customers looking for an auto 110.

Tooling costs to make an otf would be in line with any other expansions that a knife company would be considering as r&d.

Demand is huge where a quality otf from a reputable manufacturer reflects an expensive purchase price due to this. And again demand will only increase as more and more states make them legal increasing customer base dramatically. Now is the time to get on before the next set of states are in!
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Please show some proof of the huge demand for more OTFs. If it is so huge why aren't Benchmade and Microtech making a product to fill that void as they are already there? Or, others?

I agree that they were slow to bring out an auto 110 after letting others profit from their reputation for years. Buck has evolved a lot with the market in the last decade and yes, companies must move with the times. However, investment costs, opportunity costs, and their customer base must be kept in mind.

Sorry, but I'm just not seeing many OTF customers overall and even fewer Buck customers wanting an OTF.

Please take this as I meant it. There are many things I have wanted makers to produce over the years and it didn't happen. Not ragging on your idea but I don't think the #'s add up.
 
ohen cepel said:
Please show some proof of the huge demand for more OTFs. If it is so huge why aren't Benchmade and Microtech making a product to fill that void as they are already there? Or, others?

I agree that they were slow to bring out an auto 110 after letting others profit from their reputation for years. Buck has evolved a lot with the market in the last decade and yes, companies must move with the times. However, investment costs, opportunity costs, and their customer base must be kept in mind.

Sorry, but I'm just not seeing many OTF customers overall and even fewer Buck customers wanting an OTF.

Please take this as I meant it. There are many things I have wanted makers to produce over the years and it didn't happen. Not ragging on your idea but I don't think the #'s add up.
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Microtech just released the Dirac in 2 sizes because they sell so many they did expand their lineup. Benchmade has also added to their lineup as of just recently in the otf market designing their new Autocrat. So Microtech and Benchmade will continue to siphon the market, along with Heretic and Guardian Tactical, 2 companies that also continue to grow and evolve to meet increasing demand.

I didnt think you were ragging on the idea, thanks man for the kind words. It's just an idea or a dream, but one day they may decide to do it, I'll try to buy the first one off the assembly line. :)
 
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