Time for Fletcher Knives to reveal a secret...

Discussion in 'Fletcher Knives' started by Fletcher Knives, Feb 21, 2011.

  1. Fletcher Knives

    Fletcher Knives STEEL BREATHING BLADE MAESTRO Moderator

    Aug 30, 2007
    I'm sure that some of you guys have noticed that every single knife from Fletcher Knives comes with a number and a certificate of authenticity. There's a very good reson for this. From the beginning of Fletcher Knives, evey knife has actually been "Limited Edition" Every design is going to be allowed to reach number 40 and then the design will be retired. The exceptions will be anything that I say beforehand, "this is going to be a very limited run", in which case they will be in smaller numbers.

    Don't worry. The price isn't going to go up on any of the existing knives' base prices. Also, rest assured that every design that gets retired will be replaced with something new.

    You guys might ask, "but Dylan, why didn't you just say this from the beginning?" Well, I didn't say it from the beginning because I don't want my knives to be treated as limited safe-queens. I want people to use them. I wanted to make sure that enough people got them and used them that other people would be able to read and hear about how awesome they are and want some of their very own.

    For all you guys that currently have Fletcher Knives, the good news for you is that you have a limited and numbered knife. :thumbup:

    Alright, now you guys know the reason for them all being numbered. YAY!

    DISCUSS!
     
  2. killstew

    killstew

    Nov 6, 2009
    oooooo ahhhhhhh!
     
  3. HAKnPocket

    HAKnPocket

    Mar 2, 2008
    Well I am putting mine on the wall to admire and praise it. Just though you should know. Also I feel a bit out of the loop since I bought my DF second hand and didn't get the certificate. Oh well guess I will just put it through the wall and look at it that way. :)
     
  4. Fletcher Knives

    Fletcher Knives STEEL BREATHING BLADE MAESTRO Moderator

    Aug 30, 2007
    You didn't get the certificate with it? email me your address and the person who sold it to you, and I'll send you a certificate.
     
  5. HAKnPocket

    HAKnPocket

    Mar 2, 2008
    Email inbound.
     
  6. Thor1986

    Thor1986

    221
    Jun 24, 2008
    I need a Fletcher knife with the number 13 tied to it.......and i needs it bad....lol
     
  7. revengencer22

    revengencer22

    162
    Sep 7, 2009
    Mind Blown! I have some thinking to do now. Dam You Dylan!!!! Actually, this is terrible news.
     
  8. mtnfolk mike

    mtnfolk mike Basic Member Basic Member

    Mar 21, 2006
    very cool Dylan...:thumbup: makes me look forward to getting my Bush Operator even more..:D
     
  9. chainring

    chainring Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 20, 2008
    Well, that sucks. Do I still have time to get in on the Pocket Kilo....what about the Bush Op...what about the Op XL????!!!! I'm not going to sleep a wink tonight!!! :)
     
  10. Fletcher Knives

    Fletcher Knives STEEL BREATHING BLADE MAESTRO Moderator

    Aug 30, 2007
    I think you'll be ok bro. lol. If you come to Blade, you can pick up all of them at the same time!
     
  11. Doc Holiday

    Doc Holiday

    305
    Jul 23, 2008
    Haknpocket, I got your certificate right here bro, I'm really sorry for that:( I completly forgot to send it with the knife. PM me your mailing address again, I'll send it to you as soon as possible:thumbup:

    Alex
     
  12. Doc Holiday

    Doc Holiday

    305
    Jul 23, 2008
    Oh yeah and BTW would you like to resell it? :D please?
     
  13. PayetteRucker

    PayetteRucker

    Aug 4, 2009
    I hope you aren't drunk, though this is an original idea and will no doubt test your ingenuity to develop new effective designs.
     
  14. PayetteRucker

    PayetteRucker

    Aug 4, 2009
    Thor, maybe you could draw up a design called the '13'...
     
  15. Thor1986

    Thor1986

    221
    Jun 24, 2008
    Mmmm....I like the way you think Ruck. Ill see what I can scribble up in my free time.
     
  16. NoahL

    NoahL

    854
    Feb 28, 2009
    Okay, let me preface this by saying I have absolutely nothing against Dylan or his work, and I'm not trying to tear him down at all. I'm not gonna lie, though--I don't like this idea. It sounds like artificially inflating the value of the knives. Don't get me wrong, the knives are fantastic! I'm building a sheath for a Hatchula right now, and it's the sharpest custom knife out-of-the-box that I've sheathed yet and the handle is comfortable, albeit too big for my hands. It just seems like it will drive more collecting and less using, to me, as well as driving the price up and what happens to the people who fall in love with a discontinued design? They are left out in the cold or have to try and convince another maker to copy it or if they can somehow manage to buy one off of someone who has already got one and will only sell it at the inflated collector-value instead of the used-knife value?

    Just my two cents, minus tax ;)
     
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  17. Fletcher Knives

    Fletcher Knives STEEL BREATHING BLADE MAESTRO Moderator

    Aug 30, 2007
    Nope. Sober as can be. lol.

    EDIT: By the way, no offense taken and none intended back.

    I honestly am not doing this to inflate the price, resale value or anything like that, and don't think it will to any extreme. You have to take into consideration the amount of designs I currently do and how many have been put out for each design since I started.

    As an example, I've been doing the Hatchula since shortly after I started making knives a year ago. Right now it's up to number 14. At this rate, you're probably looking at another year of them at least, unless there's a storm of people that put dibs on them this year. I think 2 years is too much time to keep the same design around for a custom maker.

    There is certainly a desire to see my knives hold their value rather than depreciate. I wouldn't deny that, but anyone who makes anything would want that. Why in the world would I want the value of my product to go down over time instead of my customers having the chance to at least get a good portion of their original investment back if they decide to move to a newer design? You can still have a "user oriented" product and have it keep its value also. When I buy a firearm, knife, car, pretty much anything other than food, I take into consideration the appreciation or depreciation of that product. It doesn't in any way determine whether or not that product is going to be collected or used. I understand that I'm going to use it, but if I want to move up before said product is used up, I want to know I'm going to get a good percentage of my money back. Making sure that they are limited enough that you can't find them too easily is a good way to ensure that. For me though, the larger picture is evolving, and not price and resale value.

    Innovation and rethinking your own designs is the only way to stay ahead in this, or any game. I've got new ideas every day and I don't want to make any certain design forever. I get bored making the same knife and I want to do something new. Sometimes that "something" is close to a current design and I think that instead of having two things that are close together, you should just drop the old one and go full tilt on the new. I don't believe in sticking with a design until people are sick with it and sales for it drop off. That's the worst business plan a company can have. Being creative and evolving is the way to keep everyone interested and keep moving forward. I don't want people to say "that new batch of Deltas looked awesome. He's really getting those dialed in." I want them to say "His new designs are absolutely sick and I can't wait to see what he comes up with next."

    Now if I was a legendary knifemaker or even a "high-end" knifemaker, I could see this as being one of the many ways to keep that collector market looking for the next good investment, but let's face it. I rarely use ANY materials that could be considered exotic and my knives are designed and priced from the very beginning to be affordable and available to the average dude. I HIGHLY doubt that there is any danger of my customers going the collector route on my knives. That would be like Glock saying that they were going to limit the amount of 19's produced to 500,000. It's still not going to make anyone think they are now pretty and collector grade pieces. lol

    So the conclusion is that, while I understand your point and where you come from with it, I don't agree with it and think that it's not correct in consideration to or necessarily applicable to my knives.
     
  18. Dizwolf

    Dizwolf

    Aug 25, 2009
    I'm not an owner, yet. So I feel weird commenting.

    I both like and dislike this. I like the fact it adds a value to the blades, and a specialness. And it keeps in line with being a custom job. The dislike is the idea of a really good design getting retired. Extreme example, but what if Buck retired the 110?

    The hatch may be an out there design, but I can see delta 4's, pocket kilos, and bush ops selling quite well.

    Ive got too much soco in me to summarize my point. Higher number may be want I mean. Maybe a core series and an le series is what I mean. Maybe I need another shot or five. At any rate, rock on :)
     
  19. Thor1986

    Thor1986

    221
    Jun 24, 2008
    I hear what you're saying dizwolf and agree mostly since I personally love almost every knife Dylan has designed thus far. That being said It would be comforting to know that if some out of the norm circumstance occurred to a blade design i fell in love with (loss of blade, or stolen god for bid, so on and so on) that i would be able to get another. That being I do like the thought of a signature series of a few blades; may be one from each size category that way people can get their hands on what got the man, the myth, the legend where he is and beyond.

    I also completely agree that with Dylan being a custom knife maker that he wants to his stuff to hold value. By god i know i want it to even though i don't know if i could ever let go of one of his blades. The thought of someone always wanting to strive to better and improve themselves and product also speaks volumes. I know everyone that makes anything wants this, but making it where you have to says a lot in many ways. Instead of getting comfortable with a certain product, it allows the artist never to get bored and in a rut with the same routine. Always getting to draw from that creative spark that keeps him interested and loving what he does. It only makes since you can only do the same thing so many times before you get bored with it and a passion becomes a job.

    I'm not sure if any of what i just said made since or if im just rambling, but this 30 hours without sleep is starting to get to me.....lol. Hopefully one thing I said in this made some since, but if it didn't feel free to delete any or all statements....I suck at making points ;p
     
  20. PayetteRucker

    PayetteRucker

    Aug 4, 2009
    Hmmm, I wouldn't call the hatchula an out there design-I have the first produced Hatchula II and kinda want the short fat little brother, too...
     

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