Time to retire the PM2 from EDC?

PC87 said:
I will give them a call this week and see what they say and if they instill confidence in their response. Im guessing though that it will be a re-sharpen and tighten pivot, which Ive already done, and they will call it done.
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Yeah, that would be disappointing for sure. It sure sounds to me like you caught a lemon and I would hope they would make it right.
 
I’ve had a knife open in my pocket and ever since then I’ve always carried every knife in my right pocket with the tip up, spine oriented against the seam. I do it as a safety precaution because technically ANY folding knife could open in your pocket.

Since I’ve been doing this, I’ve never had a knife open in my pocket in a way that would cause me to cut myself.
 
I’ve had a knife open in my pocket and ever since I’ve always carried every knife in my right pocket with the tip up, spine oriented against the seam. I do it as a safety precaution because technically ANY folding knife could open in your pocket.

Since I’ve been doing this, I’ve never had a knife open in my pocket in a way that would cause me to cut myself.
 
Forgive me for stating the obvious, but these things don't happen when you carry tip down.

Never did understand the obsession with tip up carry. I must be in the minority, however, since all the maker's lines overwhelmingly carry tip up knives.
 
I've been lucky so far when it comes to involuntary detent-related blood donation, but I've never quite trusted a number of folders with suspiciously weak detents, Emerson being the principal one. That big thumb stud can lead to a partially opened blade. One solution is an in-pocket sheath, though that shouldn't be necessary. Another as noted is to carry with the spine against a pocket seam.
 
I've never had this issue and I have carried tip up forever.
I'd send it to spdyerco to look at
Seems weak detent
 
bobobama said:
Forgive me for stating the obvious, but these things don't happen when you carry tip down.

Never did understand the obsession with tip up carry. I must be in the minority, however, since all the maker's lines overwhelmingly carry tip up knives.
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Only time I've ever been poked by a knife in my pocket was when carrying a Kershaw Leek tip down (spine facing in). Swapped to tip up (spine facing out) problem solved.
To me, it has less to do with tip up vs. tip down - more to do with where the spine is oriented in relation to the outside edge of the pocket (especially with flippers and assisted knives).
 
I carry a pm2 or 3 almost everyday tip up and I've never been concerned about them opening. That said I really don't mind carrying either tip down. The reason I carry these this way is because I usually have my pen clipped to the same pocket and I don't like the clinking it makes aganist a blade when carried tip up. Obviously I could solve this by carrying one or the other in a different pocket but I may be a touch ocd and that just won't happen.
 
bobobama said:
Forgive me for stating the obvious, but these things don't happen when you carry tip down.

Never did understand the obsession with tip up carry. I must be in the minority, however, since all the maker's lines overwhelmingly carry tip up knives.
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I think Tip up Blade against the seam carry is for a quick deploy in a self defence situation. It positions the blade so you can quickly stick your thumb in your pocket, pinch the clip with your index or middle finger, slip it out and hit the flipper or thumb stud in a fluid action. If carried any other way you would have to rotate or turn the knife in your hand first. That's my take from what I have read and it's the only way I will EDC
 
Night Rider said:
I think Tip up Blade against the seam carry is for a quick deploy in a self defence situation. It positions the blade so you can quickly stick your thumb in your pocket, pinch the clip with your index or middle finger, slip it out and hit the flipper or thumb stud in a fluid action. If carried any other way you would have to rotate or turn the knife in your hand first. That's my take from what I have read and it's the only way I will EDC
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exactly
 
Your carrying it incorrectly and it probably needs to be serviced regardless.

I have a spyderco military and it is tip down and it opened up and stabbed my leg. So now I carry it either in the left pocket with blade to the seam or back right pocket with blade to seam. No issues anymore but it is annoying the pocket clip can't be changed to the correct orientation.
 
bobobama said:
Forgive me for stating the obvious, but these things don't happen when you carry tip down.

Never did understand the obsession with tip up carry. I must be in the minority, however, since all the maker's lines overwhelmingly carry tip up knives.
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Was gonna say the same.
 
PC87 said:
Carried endura for 10 yrs, switched to PM2.
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Maybe time to switch back and dress it up?
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I've carried or handled just about every knife under the sun and keep coming back to the Endura and Delica. ZDP-189 and @BOOMER52 scales make them particularly compelling.
 
bobobama said:
Forgive me for stating the obvious, but these things don't happen when you carry tip down.

Never did understand the obsession with tip up carry. I must be in the minority, however, since all the maker's lines overwhelmingly carry tip up knives.
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I've actually had my hand cut by a lockback (a Spyderco Rookie) that was clipped tip-down, many years ago. I had reached into my pocket for something else, and as I was withdrawing my hand, the Rookie had somehow come open a little bit, and the tip cut the pad of one of my fingers. Not a big cut, but it sure bled, and I'm still not sure how it had come partially open, but it did. I'm sure it had something to do with my hand inadvertently causing it to open. Now, I am sure that was an anomaly, but if it happened once, then it is possible with some knives. The possibility is probably higher with a frame lock, liner lock, or compression lock carried tip-down than a lockback.

Jim
 
Tip up and blade back, carried in my right pocket. Makes opening a spydie hole knife with my thumb easy. Checking to make sure the knife is tucked away as close to the pant seam is easy and safe to run my thumb or finger against the smooth spine of the knife. Knife is carried in a position that even with a weak detent the blade can not open while in the pocket.

I would take it personal if I were to be cut by my own knife. That would totally suck!
 
I just got my PM2, but I find carrying it tip down not a hindrance. I would give it a try for a couple of days.
 
Unless you have a strong detent lock, like a lock back, or a knife with a lock that keeps it shut, you should always have the spine of the blade against a stiff seam (not gym shorts). Tip up or down doesn't matter.

I don't consider it safe to carry a modern pocket knife any other way. I also don't see how you could cut yourself if you are doing the above. Possibly if the knife shifted away from the seam but that won't happen if the clip is nice and stiff. I tighten up all my clips for this reason.
 
I had my PM3 do this to me the other day, was a small cut since i just hit the tip luckily. The detent on mine is plenty strong though so i'm not sure how it slightly opened.
 
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