Tip up -- yaaaouch!

Feuer said:
-"Guns are for show,knives are for pros." -Lock,Stock,and Two Smoking Barrels


Feuer, welcome to the forums. Take it easy on Gollnick, he's a good guy. I agree that if you keep the spine against the seam, you're ok, otherwise maybe don't carry linerlocks (esp loose detent ones) in your pocket.

BTW, it's "Guns for show, knives for a pro"
 
This knife comes with a package insert against carring it tip up in a trowser pocket. Then it has another insert with how to change the clip so you can carry tip up. What the deal with the conflicting info? Anyway I carry it tip up in my right from pants pocket. Since the clip is very tight, I find that if I place it at the edge of my pocket with the blade towards the edge, the inside seam of the pocket keeps it from opening by accident. It dras very smoothly and quickest when worn in this position. Has anyone else carried this knife and if so can you give any advice or warning.?
 
Roodog said:
This knife comes with a package insert against carring it tip up in a trowser pocket. Then it has another insert with how to change the clip so you can carry tip up. What the deal with the conflicting info? Anyway I carry it tip up in my right from pants pocket. Since the clip is very tight, I find that if I place it at the edge of my pocket with the blade towards the edge, the inside seam of the pocket keeps it from opening by accident. It dras very smoothly and quickest when worn in this position. Has anyone else carried this knife and if so can you give any advice or warning.?

Legal disclaimer to limit liability...
 
Are they just saying "you bought a knife, you might cut yourself."?
Thats what I thought too, I was wondering if anyone has had a bad experience disregarding the legal diclaimer as I have.
 
the M1 actually has this ball bearing thing to keep the knife closed... Mine has never accidentally opened so I think it's just a broad-blanket disclaimer...
 
I though the same. It seem as if its difficult to open unintentionally. I just wanted to hear this from someone who has carried it for more than 3 days. Thanks again Meloncholy Mutt.
 
There are many places to clip folders. Not everyone carries their knives clipped to a pocket against the back seam.

Think about it.
 
I've had a tip-up folder open on me once, and that was in a utility pocket on some cargo pants about halfway down my leg.

The reason it opened was because I did a snap kick, and it apparently was hard enough to have flicked the knife partially open. The tip managed to cut through the outside of the pocket, and I didn't realize it until I went to retrieve it from my pocket that the tip was stuck in the hole it cut in my pocket.

The knife was my Microtech LCC.

In any other form of carry, it has remained perfectly stable and never even came close to opening. I have no qualms about carrying it tip-up, though for lightness purposes I carry my Rainbow Leek more often, which is tip-down by default.
 
As I had carried various folders in tip up mode for over a decade BEFORE I was bit the first time, it's not a matter of "if", only a matter of when.

It hasn't happened until it does. Because it hasn't happened in no way means you are safe from experiencing this as others have over the years.

Linerlock carrers, you have been made aware of the potential through others here, one would think a word to the wise [ how's that go? ]

Brownie
 
Two questions.......

(1) Distinction between linerlock and frame-lock. Exactly what is to separate the two?

(2) Folding knives -- as they are often cited by those (including myself) who advise against their use as potential fixed-blades, no matter how strong, simply because "they fold," are they also not by this very definition a potential liability for injury when carried in one's pocket, REGARDLESS of how it is clipped/oriented?

:)
 
The tip up/tip down carry issue was brought home to me after getting my BM551 and only having tip up carry available on it. Prior to that, all my knives were tip down carry and... that is what seems to be indelibly ingrained in my brain and muscle memory. I find it far more elegant to simply pinch the knife, draw and let it rotate into the palm (using your pinch point as a hinge) before releasing the blade. I know technique can be altered for each carry mode but... in the heat of the moment, I don't want any confusion over my draw and deployment. I have recently changed all my knives over to tip up carry to match the Grippie and standardize but... it is still less instinctive to me to have to add the extra move of positioning the handle, lengthwise, in my palm before deploying the blade. Safety aside, tip down just seems to be more natural and fewer motions for me. Your thumb is already at the right end of the knife for thumbstud engagement on your first grip of the knife, not second.

After some months of converting, I find that tip up is still giving me fits whenever I don't take a second to think about it first... Just another opinion amongst many... :yawn:
 
I'm in the tip up school myself.

My reason is simply because I feel like I have to flip the knife over on a tip down draw. The motion feels awkward and unnecessary. In practice I use both because not every pocket folder #1 Has a clip #2 Has a tip up/tip down reversible clip.

For the record I've cut myself a time or three but never getting it out of the pocket. That sure sounds like something I'd do though.

I used to have a Ti Lite... I think your problem is that the rather pronounced guards on the blade are curved and those guards tend to get caught on just about anything. I'd venture your guard got caught on the seam of your pocket and it pulled the blade partially open.
 
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