Dean you mentioned the old used Butcher Sttel's in one of the above posts. You're right about getting them cheap sometimes. I used to think I needed a brand new steel with the new grooves to do a good enough job, but that was before I found blade and knife forums dot com. Actually the old worn out steels, if they're hard, are really good buys for burnishing or repairing the edge of a kukri. I would cut any I would buy off to about a 6" length on the steel part. That will give you enough room to hold the bottom of the steel in your off hand and with your strong hand on the handle a Great Deal of force could be put on an edge. It oughta make the most resistant blade lay down and cry, "Uncle!!!!"