To all BM 630 Skirmish critics

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666seth

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Well, finally I received my "little" 630 Skirmish the other day. Man that knife is friggin' huge! :eek:
I love it. Fits perefectly in my hand, opens easiliy with a nice "thwack!" great. :D

But there are always the critics :rolleyes:. Some don't like the the size, some don't like the handle design, and some don't like the colored dots and some don't like the uncoated blade. :rolleyes:

Now there is hope for everyone! :) The Skirmish is now offered in different special editions that should suit almost everyones taste. :cool:

The BM Skirmish 635 :
For the ones that thought the 630 was too big. This has been discussed here in various threads.
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The BM Skirmish 630BK with black coated blade and silver dots (instead of the colored ones)
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And for the ones that don't like black blades nor colored dots:
The BM 630-400 (pictured next to a limited edition 960-400 w/ Black Aluminum Handles w/ Silver G10 Inlays;
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630-400 Limited Edition is limited to 300 Pieces.


To all the ones that have the regular 630 skirmish with colored dots. A friend of mine removed the colored dots on his with a dremel tool and a very fine grid sanding tip. ;)
 
Am I the only one who likes the colored dots and the clip of the 630?
 
I don't like the dots or all the dang holes in the blade, except for the opening one. Makes an excellent knife look way to cheesy to me, IMO.
 
What's not to like on the 630?


But why aluminium handles? I smell a 'feeler' to see how well the standard model would sell with non-ti handles.
 
swingshot said:
What's not to like on the 630?


But why aluminium handles? I smell a 'feeler' to see how well the standard model would sell with non-ti handles.
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I think you're a little confused :)

I'm pretty sure its the 960 with the aluminum handles. Both the 630 and mini have Ti handles :)
 
I have a 630 and it rocks. its the sharpest factory knife iv ever seen. as far as the dots they grow on ya. and dont efect the cutting ability as far as i can see.
:D
 
666seth said:
The BM Skirmish 630BK with black coated blade and silver dots (instead of the colored ones)
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That looks awesome!
Now if they just decided to get rid of those useless "extra" holes in the blade, it would be one of my favorite folders! As far as legality is concerned, why don't they just replace the opening hole with a (silver-anodized ti) thumbstud.
 
Nice pics!! Don't suppose you have one of a 630 AND a 635 side-by-side?

I'm one of the ones who happens to looove the Skirmish. Too big? Sheesh, I have fairly small hands, and it fits like it was made custom for me. Don't like the dots? So grind 'em out if they bother you. Too many holes in the blade? Thise holes save a lotta weight, if you thought it's too heavy now, you'll really hate it then.

The only thing I can agree with the haters on is the pocket clip. Kinda flimsy for that size knife, and does it have to be so dang big? I'm on shaky legal ground EDCing that thing, no need to have a pocket clip that screams "LOOK!! I'M CARRYING A SKIRMISH!"
 
Quiet Storm said:
That looks awesome!
Now if they just decided to get rid of those useless "extra" holes in the blade, it would be one of my favorite folders! As far as legality is concerned, why don't they just replace the opening hole with a (silver-anodized ti) thumbstud.
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I don't think Benchmade will be getting rid of the extra holes anytime soon. Spyderco owns the trademark with one hole, so that's a no-go. Benchmade originally was going to go with three holes until it turns out that Kershaw owned a trademark with that. :rolleyes:
 
m_calingo said:
I don't think Benchmade will be getting rid of the extra holes anytime soon. Spyderco owns the trademark with one hole, so that's a no-go. Benchmade originally was going to go with three holes until it turns out that Kershaw owned a trademark with that. :rolleyes:
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So if I drill a hole in my head and make that my trademark then all the other stiffs out there that have one hole in their head will have to put more holes in their head because I will be holding the trademark of the one hole in the head design.

Just thinking about what one can do with a trademark.
 
The clip on the Skirmish does stand out. I find many more people notice that I am carrying a knife when I carry the Skirmish than before. My Emerson CQC-7 has a black clip and it is smaller, hardly anyone ever noticed I was carrying a knife.
 
I like everything about it EXCEPT the chamfered hole, which is much more slippery than a non-chamfered Spyderco hole. And I'm not Benchmade bashing -- I'm carrying a 710 HS as I write.
 
Quiet Storm said:
That looks awesome!
Now if they just decided to get rid of those useless "extra" holes in the blade, it would be one of my favorite folders! As far as legality is concerned, why don't they just replace the opening hole with a (silver-anodized ti) thumbstud.
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The holes is part of Neil Blackwood's original Skirmish design. They won't ever be changing that. The only thing benchmade changed design wise was four holes instead of three to get around the trademark three holes that the Spyker uses (I think?). If you REALLY want one with a thumbstud, break out the savings account and head to www.blackwoodknives.com
 
I would say that the holes in the BM 630 creates more surface area in such a way that the blade is actually stronger when used in the cutting edge direction. Yes if you pry with the blade sideways then the holes weaken the structure. But a pocket knife is not meant for sideways prying so the design is to make it light and stronger for the application the blade was designed for.

To back up my claim the so called blood grove you see in some Swords and knives was put there to create more surface area and strengthen the Sword along with making it lighter. This design was taken to the I beams they use in building skyscrapers with. Using solid beams in building would both make it weaker and heaver.

Now take 100 sheets of printer paper and place them between two tables of the same height and make a bridge between them. It won't work! But if you take one sheet of printer paper and fold in into a fan then use the fan structure it will work as a bridge that can hold a cup.

Structure is what make things what they are, the spaces in the structure are as important as the material used.
 
No no no no no... you can NOT make a chunk of metal stronger by removing metal from it. Never ever, just can't happen.

However, you CAN make a chunk of material stiffer/stronger by arranging it differently. Surface area has nothing to do with it; what matters is the area moment of inertia, i.e. the distribution of material in the cross section. That's why an I-beam is stronger than a simple rectangular beam made from the same volume of material.

Trust me on this: those holes make the Skirmish blade lighter, but WEAKER than the same blade without the holes. However, that blade IS stronger about the pivot than it would be if you removed that hump, thumb ramp, holes and all. It's the extra depth (or chord, to use an aeronautical term) that adds to the strength.
 
Really cool looking knife. It would be better tip up, though.

I really don't like Benchmade (and originally Mr. Blackwood) ripping off Spyderco with unathorized use of an opening hole. Even if it had a thousand small holes it still has the trademark Spyderco hole, imo.
 
actually you can make a chunck of metal stronger by removing metal from it.
( you now have more surface area)
 
pholder said:
actually you can make a chunck of metal stronger by removing metal from it.
( you now have more surface area)
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I have a degree in Mechanical Engineering from Georgia Tech, I know what I'm talking about here. ;) Go grab a Statics textbook, and see for yourself.

I went through this same nonsense on USENET in rec.guns a while back, with those people who thought that cutting flutes in a barrel somehow made it stiffer. Just ain't so, sorry.
 
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