Tomb of the Lost Knife!

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The Ebay pictures weren't too bad, so it was easy to see this knife had promise of a decent example of the breed. A knife left with fruit juice or something on it, or stored in a basement; some hostile environment was at play for a while.

Anyway, I dug deep, but got it well below my snipe, and it arrived today!!

Man, what an experience, opening that package!! I've gotten a few "dry" knives in the past, but this one took the cake!! I swear I saw dust in the air when I unwrapped it, sitting in the seat of my pickup. I started to open the spey blade, and it CREAKED!! At 45 degrees open, with visions of flying steel molecules dancing in my head (well, this is a Christmas story!:p), I let it creak back shut, having to give it a nudge to get it near a feeble snap. Sigh, would it ever be a knife again?? On home, and during the drive, I thought I'd document what was to become of my somewhat expensive folly!
So here you are with me! Prepare for some ugliness, and I think/hope, some beauty.
The pics;
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The close-up of the inside shows a trace of an insect exoskeleton, and some spiderweb (hard to see), and inspired the name of this thread!:rolleyes:
Upon close inspection, this knife looks like it never cut anything!! There are traces of red pencil or grease marker on one blade, but no scratches under twenty power!!
There are some light pits, and too much red rust though!!:grumpy:
I oiled the joint before I opened it, and now that I've scanned it, I am going to douse it liberally with mineral oil.
In typical fashion, the main blade was crocus polished on the mark side, and the Etch is clearly visible. The rest of the surfaces are glaze finished as you would expect, and the factory edges are there; but of course there is way too much corruption to let it be. At least I have to remove the rust.
We'll see what the oil, and some later brisk rubbing will do.
Stay Tuned!! But if anyone can help with suggestions that will preserve as much of the original finishes as possible, please chime in.
 
Beautiful knife, Charlie, detritus notwithstanding!!!
 
Can't help you with your requests for advice, but I like it, Charlie! That beauty has some nice promise to it!
 
Jeez Charlie, that knife was never even carried by anyone. It was bought or given, stuck in a desk drawer, and maybe the desk got moved to the basement and the knife forgotten. The edges of the jigging are as sharp and crisp as the day they were put in there. No thumb ever stroked that handle. Never sharpened even. Entombed without having had a life.

I'd be very careful trying to remove the rust. Just bathe it in mineral oil and rub with a soft clean cloth. See how much comes off.

Gently son, gently.

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Jeez Charlie, that knife was never even carried by anyone. It was bought or given, stuck in a desk drawer, and maybe the desk got moved to the basement and the knife forgotten. The edges of the jigging are as sharp and crisp as the day they were put in there. No thumb ever stroked that handle. Never sharpened even. Entombed without having had a life.

I'd be very careful trying to remove the rust. Just bathe it in mineral oil and rub with a soft clean cloth. See how much comes off.

Gently son, gently.

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I hear ya Pops!!;)
I also think your interpretation is feasible. A desk drawer in a basement fits the condition.
I'll have to make up for the "lack of love"!!!
 
Give it the mineral oil bath for a few hours and use a micro fiber cloth.0000 steel wool and the mineral oil will get the red out.An sos pad will turn the rust black.I think your done then.Keep it away from any brass,ns or bone. That looks marvelous.Can't wait to see the results.
 
I'll have to make up for the "lack of love"!!!

Ya got a couple of days to work on it. Then a couple of mornings from now, theres going to be packages to open, maybe even some fruit cake to cut. Use that old baby and build some memories right into it Christmas morning. :thumbup:

You've brought it into the light, now let it live by being part of your life. For a while anyways. :D
 
It sits in a puddle of Mineral Oil, as we speak!
Seems to be enjoying the bath!! . . . . .It's been a long time!!:D
 
Ya got a couple of days to work on it. Then a couple of mornings from now, theres going to be packages to open, maybe even some fruit cake to cut. Use that old baby and build some memories right into it Christmas morning. :thumbup:

You've brought it into the light, now let it live by being part of your life. For a while anyways. :D

JK's got the right idea. Let your pocket finish it off.
 
I had rust on the inners pretty bad with a antique shop find similar to use...I used a fine wet and dry sand paper folded to get inside and just lift it running back and forwards with oil dripped on the paper, then bathed it in clove oil for a week. It didnt change the colour of the bone and as I've been told by a few people it helps keep the bone from possibly cracking, i dunno if thats just a wives tale but i do that with all my bone, ivory and wood (even MOP, maybe i'm crossing the line). For the blades though I would just use a steel wool as stated, will take the red away and should just leave some pitting marks which will go black once in the oil.

That is a very nice folder, as stated a real diamond in the rough.
 
Looks like a keeper to me. A gentle wipe down with oil, maybe some OOO steel wool, and it will clean up nicely.

If, on the other hand, you decide it is not up to your standards, I will offer my disposal services.
 
Charlie, please excuse my ignorance, but is this knife a Miller Bros Keen Kutter, or a Simmons Keen Kutter, or a Shapleigh Keen Kutter, or a Schrade Keen Kutter ?
my guess is Schrade, but whadaino ?
roland
 
It was made by Schrade, Roland. The DNA is unmistakable compared with the Schrade Waldens.
Shapleigh adopted the Keen Kutter brand after 1940, according to LG4, I guess from Simmons. Schrade made some/all of them after the War, until 1960 I believe.
 
After learning a few things lately and trying the mineral oil, I would just wipe down after the knife comes out and not do much more, the patina will not come out as I'm sure you know and the rust spots will blacken, the rust does not seem to be to far into the steel that I'm thinking they may just end up pretty much smooth. If not I have used a blunt matchstick to easily rub over the rust if it is slightly raised on the steel. Other than that I would think you could ruin the factory finish that still exits. Use a matchstick again to clean the inside while there is some mineral oil still inside the knife.

Superb find Charlie, and not a mark on the bone.

Russell
 
Charlie, That's a real winner that will fit right in with your "SCHRADE CONTRACT KNIVES" collection. Can't wait to see the "After" pix. Congrats, Barry
 
Great find, Charlie, and a fine write-up too. I'm really looking forward to seeing that beauty rejuvenated after the mineral oil spa and a few rubdowns.

The ancient insect remains amid the old remnant of a spider's lair found inside lend the old girl a bit of gravitas: the tribulations of the food chain; nay! The very cycle of life and death was enacted untold years past within the dark recess of that handle! :eek: :D
 
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Great find, Charlie, and a fine write-up too. I'm really looking forward to seeing that beauty rejuvenated after the mineral oil spa and a few rubdowns.

The ancient insect remains amid the old remnant of a spider's lair found inside lend the old girl a bit of gravitas: the tribulations of the food chain; nay! The very cycle of life and death were enacted untold years past within the dark recess of that handle! :eek: :D

Mercy! such word pictures.

And that will be an amazing find when you are done restoring it. Please post pics of the "after".
 
Great find, Charlie, and a fine write-up too. I'm really looking forward to seeing that beauty rejuvenated after the mineral oil spa and a few rubdowns.

The ancient insect remains amid the old remnant of a spider's lair found inside lend the old girl a bit of gravitas: the tribulations of the food chain; nay! The very cycle of life and death was enacted untold years past within the dark recess of that handle! :eek: :D

Priceless!!:D
 
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