Top 5 "Tactical" Knives

Seriously, I need to know, has anyone reading this thread actually, for realzies, had to use their knife in a "tactical" situation?
 
I pulled out a Buck 119 on 2 road ragers who followed me into a parking lot. They ran away, I had that crazed look in my eye. Not a huge deal I guess but I felt safe, or safer than if unarmed. They also could have returned with a firearm, but I got in my car and left immediately. A fairly big, shiny knife scared them away, part luck I suppose.
My current shankin blade lol would be a Cold Steel Holdout 2. I have that on me it's reassuring.
 
I thought I was clear in my description, but some people are having issues understanding it, so I'll try to clarify a bit more: I mean something that is good in a fight, but it CAN be something that isn't heavily steered that way (ex: those Cold Steel Spikes as opposed to a Condor Mini Dagger- sure, both CAN be used for both, but the Spikes have a dull back edge & can be batoned through wood).

It's not like survival stuff can't be done in other ways (some of it wouldn't even need a blade & other stuff just needs an edge that can be carved with), but I figure something might be good for both without being a karambit or a dagger.
 
Some of these suggestions are great! I didn't know about that Billy Blade ball cap thing & I forgot all about those Cold Steel Spikes! The sprays are a little worrisome for me, because of potential backsplash or it getting into someone else's eyes. Not a terrible idea, but I think there are some (less & less rare) cases where you might need to drop someone- someone that might shoot the crowd they're attacking for their prophet & god, for instance.

Better to actually try some of that sentry removal stuff than to wait & see who gets raped & who gets killed than- instead of fawning over the "trained" & not do something that could be seen to be equating your abilities with theirs (which can be taken as an insult to them & something people that try to ride their coat-tails don't like).

I have to ask about the tomahawk that was mentioned: What do you consider long-handled & which ones do you think are good? If I were to get one, I think I'd like it to have a double-edged spike on the back of it, since it can be used to cut through laminated windows as well as the assorted combative uses. Maybe all metal, except for the grip. Not really figuring I'd have much use for it besides throwing recreationally, but I'd still want it to be all metal so it doesn't break.
 
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klute said:
I pulled out a Buck 119 on 2 road ragers who followed me into a parking lot. They ran away, I had that crazed look in my eye. Not a huge deal I guess but I felt safe, or safer than if unarmed. They also could have returned with a firearm, but I got in my car and left immediately. A fairly big, shiny knife scared them away, part luck I suppose.
My current shankin blade lol would be a Cold Steel Holdout 2. I have that on me it's reassuring.
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Don't take this the wrong way, but I have a hard time with this story. I want more details.
I worked directing traffic for quite a number of years, more than ten, so I've seen a metric butt load of road rage incidents, and I've never seen one that would have ended that way. Sometimes both escalate the situation to the point where they just get all tuckered out. More often than not both parties escalate until one calls the cops. And I've seen more than a few where the aggressor calls the cops. Point is, people raging out don't behave rationally, they've already settled into the fight response, they're often unstable, ill, or intoxicated and while the victim (if there is one, most of the time there isn't) might be able to retain self control, the aggressor never, ever backs down. They must be able to walk away thinking they won in some warped convoluted way. I saw one once where the aggressor got clocked, like KO, by the other guy, he got back up and continued cussing as if he had the upper hand, meanwhile both their wives looked totally embarrassed and I... I'm not going to play action hero, I was eating a sticky bun and laughing.
 
Wolfeye said:
Spikes have a dull back edge & can be batoned through wood).
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LOL...I'd pay money to watch somebody try to baton with a Spike.

~Chip
 
GREENJACKET said:
Another fantasy tacticool thread.
The people I know who work in combatively dangerous situations might use a SAK, a Leatherman/multitool, some kind of folder. Occasionally they might use a specialised tool such as a machete or golok. Some might carry an issue bayonet but most don't if given the chance to carry a handgun.
Law Enforcement then probably something with a belt cutter and glass breaker.

Go anywhere exotic then use whatever the locals are as they have probably got it right.

Anything else you should ask "what martial art system incorporates bladed weapons and what style are they incorporating". But then martial arts are a lifestyle thing rather than anything else. Get really good at one and it might just help out in a sticky situation in the fact it might give you a better mindset.
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Some of us are having fun with this thread. Others aren't... due to... uhhhh... I just don't know why.
 
GWashington1732 said:
Don't take this the wrong way, but I have a hard time with this story. I want more details.
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Nope, klute is open minded as all hell. What happened was we were in traffic on Saticoy St. I believe, this is in the San Fernando Valley near LA, middle of the day and the usual somewhat heavy traffic. I was hungry and heading to a burger joint on that street. There was a "lane jockeying" thing, momentarily, going on between me and a pickup but I just kept going on my way to lunch, thought nothing much about it. This is about...20 years ago BTW.
Anyway, I had just parked in the burger place parking lot and in my rear view I saw the truck and 2 guys getting out making a beeline for me, I grabbed the 119, maybe stupidly stored in the front seat area and got out with it making abeeline for them and they just seemed to know I would have God damn cut them up, again, the look on my face and I was in fact ready to be their hand of fate, Rubicon had been crossed, so to speak. They just turned around quickly and so did I, and I left. They were Mexicans and I say that to provide detail, not to get down on Mexicans per se. This took a total of 10 seconds, maybe.
That's all I remember.
 
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There were other violent incidents in that area [which I lived in]. Little punk gangs and whatever. We chased after a punk who stole somebody's car stereo one night, we got the stereo back and I think the thief needed new underwear, lol.
And by the WAY, the car's alarm was going off and it DID happen to alert us, I was walking down to get in my vehicle at the time.
 
I always believe a self defense knife should be able to do massive damage to an attacker at a distance, therefore there is only one self defense knife I know of that does the job.
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In my case I wonder if it was even "tactical". It was 10 seconds of madness which I'm sure gets repeated daily with all the road rage going. It was totally reflexive and defensive. My inner head said I had to send these guys a signal and accept the worst since they could have kept following me if they were that intent on "revenge". And it was just normal lane jockeying, CRIKES guys, had you grown out of diapers yet.
Best thing was no blood on the ground over something so petty, yet pettiness is so many times the reason crazies get nuts. The littlest things, really, or nothing at all sometimes except lack of emotional control or simple mental disorder. We really are living in that type of world and anyone who thinks dialing 911 is protection has got their head up a dark warm place.
 
I'll take a cold steel Kobun in some kind of urban situation, or my srk in 3v for the field. Folders would be a recon 1 or anything that waves open and fits the hand well with good materials.
 
"As is probably going to be stated many times, a gun is far superior for the sake of self defense. If you don't have training in the use of a knife as a self defense weapon, you're legitimately better off chucking the knife at the assailant and running as fast as you can while they're briefly distracted by dodging the sharp shiny thing you just threw at them. In this situation, the best knife is the heaviest one you can potentially give them a concussion with by throwing it at their head."

Sure training is preferred. To recommend someone throw away what could be a weapon because they don't have formal training is a thought process I don't understand or agree with. I will skip over the scenarios about what is preferred and better to the one that says " I don't have any other options". In that case you do what you can with whatever is available.

I worked a career and recently retired from the prison system and saw my share of incidents. Do you honestly think all the fatalities across the world from stabbings are all attached to people who trained to use a knife in close combat? To be honest all it really takes is overcoming ones own inhibitions. Humans have lived with edged weapons for over 10,000 years. Humans take to stabbing and clubbing like a dog takes to biting. It's almost a natural action.

I don't recommend to people they should rely on knives for self defense but to tell people to not try something that could possibly save their lives because they haven't trained in it seems like pretty horrible advice. When someone is trying to kill you there shouldn't be any self imposed inhibitions to staying alive and healthy.

Joe
 
120 Acres said:
Citizen's arrest!
Citizen's arrest!


You really do need a badge.
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I'm not sure if it advanced the discussion at all by accusing the SD/tactical knife fans and the OP of running around making citizens arrests and/or implying vigilante-ism. Didn't seem to have anything to do with the OP's question, it's wan't even clear if he was merely a "civilian SD/survival enthusiast", or, in fact someone who serves in law enforcement or the military.

He seems to have implied more information about his motivation later, but, before the fact? :thumbsdown:
 
GWashington1732 said:
Seriously, I need to know, has anyone reading this thread actually, for realzies, had to use their knife in a "tactical" situation?
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Several times i have had to "use" my knife to protect myself. 2 times i have slashe a person attacking me and once i stabbed someone. I was however employed by NYPD at the time and fighting against larger opponents trying to get my gun from me or trying to assault me with a weapon of their own. the knife was easier to get to than my oc spray


edit by stabbed i mean in the leg and after a few stitches they were just fine to get locked up.. charged with resisting arrest and attempted murder of a police officer..i think he plead out to 5 yrs or some garbage.. it was 10 years ago+
 
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