rusty edge said:
Growing up I was a Boy Scout, and I couldn't possibly put a price on the things I learned growing up. We used to have "survival campouts" where we started the weekend with ONLY a compass and map. We would use the compass and given coordinates to find food/gear that the leaders hid for us to find. At the end of the day we had to use what little gear we collected to build shelter and cook dinner. My best exeriences growing up were in the Boy Scouts, and the particular leaders I had were especially bent on teaching us survival. To this day I will still take minimalist camping trips. Above all the gear in the world the most important thing is between your ears:thumbup:
Wilderness survival
1) Compass/map
2) Water bottle
3) Water tablets
4) First aid kit
5) Emergency blanket/tarp
6) SAK Camper (with two blades, saw and can opener)
7) Flashlight (We used to be denied flashlights on our survival trips)
8) Good lighter (who needs firesteels when you have butane?)
9) Para cord
10) Survival guide
You don't need to waste a slot in the lineup for sleeping bags and other things. We had to insulate with leafs/pine needles, build shelters with branches and sleep by the fire. I would also take my $20 SAK camper over your Swamp Rat/Busse/huge whatever. When your lost in the woods you don't expell energy by felling trees with your five pounds of steel. This isn't keyboard comando time, how many have actually camped in the minimalist style??? Compass and Map above ALL ELSE!!! When lost in the wilderness what is most likely to save your ass than knowing how to get out!!! Have any of you actually tried to start a fire with a fire steel? It sucks. Bring a good lighter. I have actually started a fire with two sticks, really, I did. It sucked:thumbdn:
Urban survival (WW3, natural disaster, Urban setting)
1) Glock 23 with extra ammo
2) 12 Gauge Shotgun with extra ammo
3) .308 rifle with extra ammo
Thats it. Stay home with my supplies and keep unprepared looters from taking them.
That makes 2 of us..
You're about ?? 50 years old ?
My scoutmaster was a Korean war vet ( 2 tours) and golden glove boxer.
I grew up in the mountains of Va.
He made " Man Scouts" out of Boy Scouts.
Snares, drops, "noodling" ( thats reaching under a rock or the underside of the creek bank and catchin' some food )
Raw crawdad tails aint all that bad LOL
Shelter was simply finding young pines, breaking off a ton of branches and piling them onto a fallen tree.. It worked OK.. even in heavy rain... READ.. no knife used.
One VERY important thing that all of the armchair warriors

neglected to mention was a fair supply of PRESCRIPTION MEDICINES. ( if you need them)
The absolute #1 necessary item in the world is proper footware for any terrain you might get caught in.
I wear lightwight Gore Tex hiking boots ( Vasque) everywhere I travel.. Yes.. NYC included.
They do fine without socks, if need be.
Another I didn't see was IODINE.. For injuries as well as effective water purification.
Black 3M electrical tape. Fixes anything and you can wrap up a BAD cut, if need be. Duct tape is too big.
If your plane crashes you can forget about having your knife handy.
Sharpen a nice piece of fuselage on a rock and hammer part of it into a handle.
Fold, fold fold fold, break, to shape.
You can gut and scale a fish with broken glass ( tell Emeril)
You can sharpen a belt buckle on a rock.
In closing.. Now that everyone hates my post
Fatazz Amerikkans like me would do well not to eat for 4-5 days as long as we had water...
