TOPS M4X Punisher

I am too new here to get emboiled in controversy. I have picked up the knife in the local blade shop, and the owner of the place joined the laughter as we discussed it.

Wishing you the best of fortune in your deployment. Be careful.

As a combat veteran, I recommend you keep searching for a better knife. Which I think would be almost anything other than the punisher, but you can't do much better than a US navy mark 2, the marine fighting utility. Fraction of the cost, battle and history proven, much lighter to carry, much easier to carry (so you won't be without it when the need arrives). You will also look the part of a US fighting man, not like a comic book character.
 
Haha i can see how you might think that. First off welcome aboard you dont have to be a long running member on here to have a valid opinion. The two knives i am carrying are a RAt-4 on my hip and on the front of my vest i have a microtech cross hair. The m4x is certainly not the only knife id be carrying with me.

Thank you for your service
 
IAs a combat veteran, I recommend you keep searching for a better knife. Which I think would be almost anything other than the punisher, but you can't do much better than a US navy mark 2, the marine fighting utility. Fraction of the cost, battle and history proven, much lighter to carry, much easier to carry (so you won't be without it when the need arrives). You will also look the part of a US fighting man, not like a comic book character.

As another Marine combat Vet I assure you this is good advice that you should read and follow.
 
razorsdescent, what kind of work are you thinking that knife for?

Well we always seem to find something that needs to be taken apart or chopped up when were building up an lp/op.

Id probably carry it on my pack when i wasnt carrying my tomahawk. or if i knew we were going out to establish a new lp/op. Its really depepnds on what i end up doing down range and how i go about doing it. 50/50 itll just sit in my duffel.
 
50/50 itll just sit in my duffel.

Then that should tell you all you need to know about whether or not to purchase it. If it isn't an asset it's a liability. Unless you just want to buy it...then go ahead. But, I wouldn't put much stock in its utility value.

TOPS is a great company and has a great warranty, they try to do right by military personnel, too.

You don't have to own this knife to see all the pressure points and hotspots. Extended use of this thing would have your hand cramping horribly. Whatever use it may pose.

You'd be better off buying something else from TOPS, if that's what your heart is set on. Though I think an RC5 would serve you better than a Punisher.


A lot of military companies have a blade length limit, so I'm not going to mention an Armageddon (10 inch blade). But you definitely may want to look at the Anaconda 7 and 9...as well as check what is accepable before plunking down a bunch of your hard earned cash on something you might not even be allowed to carry.

HTH!
 
I'm going to have to go with Phil on his views about this knife.Have you considered a Becker BK9 for a chopper?It costs roughly 1/3 the price and the quality for what you pay is quite good.Watch your six over there!
 
Then that should tell you all you need to know about whether or not to purchase it. If it isn't an asset it's a liability. Unless you just want to buy it...then go ahead. But, I wouldn't put much stock in its utility value.

TOPS is a great company and has a great warranty, they try to do right by military personnel, too.

You don't have to own this knife to see all the pressure points and hotspots. Extended use of this thing would have your hand cramping horribly. Whatever use it may pose.

You'd be better off buying something else from TOPS, if that's what your heart is set on. Though I think an RC5 would serve you better than a Punisher.


A lot of military companies have a blade length limit, so I'm not going to mention an Armageddon (10 inch blade). But you definitely may want to look at the Anaconda 7 and 9...as well as check what is accepable before plunking down a bunch of your hard earned cash on something you might not even be allowed to carry.

HTH!

I'm definatley going to get one.

i'm already familiar with my units blade length limits and such. (but thanks for the suggestion)

look i just wanted to know if anyone who had the knife could put their .2 cents in before i bought one. I knew there were going to be some people who just had to say their peice about how impractical the knife was etc etc, but i didnt know this was gonna stir up a whole lot of grief from a bunch of people that dont own the knife in question. I dont care if anyone here thinks its a good design or not IF THEY DONT OWN ONE! :(
 
I'm going to have to go with Phil on his views about this knife.Have you considered a Becker BK9 for a chopper?It costs roughly 1/3 the price and the quality for what you pay is quite good.Watch your six over there!

i want that knife. i just wanted a review thats all i wanted.
 
To actually answer one of your questions (I can't help on this model)...

TOPS usually makes good knives that work, but the cost rarely matches the quality of the components or the fit/finish. They make some radical designs here and there, and rely heavily on name dropping in their ads.

Will the knife work up to it's potential? Most likely yes.

Will you pay more than it's actually worth? Most likely yes.
 
To actually answer one of your questions (I can't help on this model)...

TOPS usually makes good knives that work, but the cost rarely matches the quality of the components or the fit/finish. They make some radical designs here and there, and rely heavily on name dropping in their ads.

Will the knife work up to it's potential? Most likely yes.

Will you pay more than it's actually worth? Most likely yes.

Thank you j curd :thumbup:

I love my RAT knives and i know that ROWEN heat treats both so thats what i was going off of. Your answer is about what i expected to hear about tops i lurk alot and they get brought up from time to time and the general concensus tends to be about what you said.

As stated earlier i dont like their advertising but they make alot of knives that appeal to me. some of their pocket sized fixed blades look great.

I wish i could throw you a greenie thanks:D
 
Even The Punisher doesn't like it....
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how much is that bad boy,the blade shape has to big of a sweep for me..
 
Mindless, gory action for its own sake does not make a good movie. The biggest problem with that film is that its script is incredibly uneven and badly paced. It has a final action sequence tacked on almost as an afterthought, for example -- because the plot itself peters out about two-thirds of the way through the film. The dialog is stilted, the characters overwrought, and Castle himself is morally ambiguous in a way that The Punisher should never be. Overall it's an awful movie.

No disrespect I enjoy your reviews, but when a movie is called Punisher Warzone and is based on a comic. I'm not expecting something like Jean Pierre Melville's character study Le Samourai. I was expecting something more like The Boondock Saints, crappy acting entertaining action. Anyway more on topic knives like this will sell, simply for the fact it's in celluloid. Look at The Hunted TOPS is just trying to cash in on the guys who got to have it.
 
And for the record, there is nothing wrong with buying a "movie knife". There isn't a person here that doesn't like something corky in their knife buying here and there. From killer watch bands to comic book knives, there's room for everyone :)
 
And for the record, there is nothing wrong with buying a "movie knife". There isn't a person here that doesn't like something corky in their knife buying here and there. From killer watch bands to comic book knives, there's room for everyone :)

I own a microtech halo for this very reason.:D
 
No disrespect I enjoy your reviews, but when a movie is called Punisher Warzone and is based on a comic. I'm not expecting something like Jean Pierre Melville's character study Le Samourai. I was expecting something more like The Boondock Saints, crappy acting entertaining action. Anyway more on topic knives like this will sell, simply for the fact it's in celluloid. Look at The Hunted TOPS is just trying to cash in on the guys who got to have it.

Boondock Saints isn't a movie characterized by "crappy acting entertaining action," in my opinion -- it's a quirky cult film that's actually quite good, despite not being Oscar-caliber. For that matter, it's entirely possible to do a comic-book-based action movie that doesn't suck. Warzone, to me, was just incredibly uneven and badly paced. Ray Stevenson was to its benefit, but even he couldn't overcome that terrible script.

The Punisher is not supposed to be morally ambiguous; he is supposed to be a righteous avenger. When Stevenson's character kills a good man by accident, that righteousness has been tarnished and it harms the movie overall. Couple that with the act of unnecessary plot-driven cruelty wherein Jigsaw is created, and you've got a very soulless, unnecessarily nihilist film. The Punisher is a man driven by the need for justice -- not a callous killer for killing's sake.

And for the record, there is nothing wrong with buying a "movie knife". There isn't a person here that doesn't like something corky in their knife buying here and there. From killer watch bands to comic book knives, there's room for everyone :)

I don't believe anyone has said, "Dude, don't ever buy movie knives." The original post was not a request for permission to buy a movie tie-in. It was a solitication for opinions about this knife as a knife. As such, it is not a good one. Whether or not you consider "killer watch bands" to be useful is entirely irrelevant. The question was asked; the question was answered.

It's clear the original poster didn't want an honest opinion; he wanted affirmation for a purchase he has already decided to make. This is unfortunate, for he has indicated he intends to use this knife, not as a movie curio, but as a duty tool -- a role for which it is clearly not well-suited by design. Anyone with a basic working knowledge of knives ought to be able to see that.

I own a microtech halo for this very reason.:D

There is nothing the Microtech can do that a Buck 110 cannot -- but there is nothing about the Microtech's design that makes it unsuitable or nonfunctional as a knife. The same cannot be said for this Punisher knife.
 
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The Punisher is a man driven by the need for justice -- not a callous killer for killing's sake.

Uhhhh not neccesarrily depends what you go by. in punisher born its strongly suggested that hes supported by supernatural (possibly satanic) forces simply propped up so that carnage would continue and the war that he loved so much (even murdered to keep going) might continue. Its also suggested that he in turn (possibly even sub-conciously) sacrificed his family to these forces for their help in continueing his precious war. Sounds a little ambiguous to me. Never mind that different writters have given the punisher different motivations and slightly different personalities throughout his comicbook carreer. Lets not forget that he started out as a villian on the amazing spiderman. He slowly evolved from yet another spandex clad wuss:thumbdn: into a bad-ass with a skull emblazoned on his IBA :thumbup:


And boondock saints was a horrible movie. It essentially is an impassioned cry for Murder in the name of god, essentially a reversion to the dark ages, the crusades and other wonderful things. Its remarkably similar to bin-ladens mentality actually.
 
Uhhhh not neccesarrily depends what you go by. in punisher born its strongly suggested that hes supported by supernatural (possibly satanic) forces simply propped up so that carnage would continue and the war that he loved so much (even murdered to keep going) might continue. Its also suggested that he in turn (possibly even sub-conciously) sacrificed his family to these forces for their help in continueing his precious war. Sounds a little ambiguous to me. Never mind that different writters have given the punisher different motivations and slightly different personalities throughout his comicbook carreer. Lets not forget that he started out as a villian on the amazing spiderman. He slowly evolved from yet another spandex clad wuss:thumbdn: into a bad-ass with a skull emblazoned on his IBA :thumbup:


And boondock saints was a horrible movie. It essentially is an impassioned cry for Murder in the name of god, essentially a reversion to the dark ages, the crusades and other wonderful things. Its remarkably similar to bin-ladens mentality actually.

Uh... okay. I don't think our interpretations of either the character or the film are very similar at all. I think we can, agree, however, on something less subjective, and that is that, as a knife, this Punisher blade is not very functional. It sacrifices that functionality in the name of looking like a movie knife.
 
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