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Hi I recently traded a knife (or tryed to anyway). And wanted some opinions from some of you on what happened. I had an accurate description of my knife along with pictures (that were taken to the best of my ability). And in my description I stated all of the damage even being a little pessimistic. I got an email from a forum member saying he would trade, and I agreed and was looking forward to trading, he even said the knife he was getting was going to be a User. I didn't have any feedback yet because I had never done a trade before so he wanted me to ship first, and I did. And today he received the knife, and said he did not want to trade because of things that were wrong with it that were stated in the description. I think it is unfair because I had an accurate description and the deal was set. He said he is sending it back but I am still angry about the whole situation.
I had an Emerson commander and he had a protech godfather.
Sorry if I posted this in the wrong place.
 
It's generally accepted that the deal is not done or set until both parties are satisfied or happy with their end of the trade.

Although I believe you did your best to accurately describe the knife, the member who received it may have felt differently once he had it in hand, or for whatever reason no longer wanted to go threw with the trade.

Frustrating I know, especially after you went threw the trouble and effort to package and mail it and were no doubt looking forward to receiving your end, the fact is by the rules and customs of the exchange he was within his right to reverse the trade and to that extent did nothing wrong.

I do hope you have better success in the future.
 
You didn't do anything wrong. Some people are more finicky than others. At least it seems he is sending right back so you aren't out anything but shipping. This isn't a done deal for iTrader purposes but posting it in FEEDBACK is a good way for you and others to talk it out and learn how to handle less than optimal situations.
 
That is, in part, true. However, if all issues with the knife were fully disclosed prior to the trade being negotiated it comes down to buyers or traders remorse after receiving it.....that isn't acceptable. The member who received the knife is just as responsible for due diligence on his end as the person who sent the knife is. Having the newer member send the knife first and then turning the deal down for already-known issues is akin to trying to buy a used car and then taking it back after you get cold feet....the dealer wouldn't take the car back and the more senior member shouldn't try to renig on the trade deal.....very bad form.


pbcg said:
It's generally accepted that the deal is not done or set until both parties are satisfied or happy with their end of the trade.

Although I believe you did your best to accurately describe the knife, the member who received it may have felt differently once he had it in hand, or for whatever reason no longer wanted to go threw with the trade.

Frustrating I know, especially after you went threw the trouble and effort to package and mail it and were no doubt looking forward to receiving your end, the fact is by the rules and customs of the exchange he was within his right to reverse the trade and to that extent did nothing wrong.

I do hope you have better success in the future.
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pbcg said:
It's generally accepted that the deal is not done or set until both parties are satisfied or happy with their end of the trade.

Although I believe you did your best to accurately describe the knife, the member who received it may have felt differently once he had it in hand, or for whatever reason no longer wanted to go threw with the trade.

Frustrating I know, especially after you went threw the trouble and effort to package and mail it and were no doubt looking forward to receiving your end, the fact is by the rules and customs of the exchange he was within his right to reverse the trade and to that extent did nothing wrong.

I do hope you have better success in the future.
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Very well said.


wjswiger said:
That is, in part, true. However, if all issues with the knife were fully disclosed prior to the trade being negotiated it comes down to buyers or traders remorse after receiving it.....that isn't acceptable. The member who received the knife is just as responsible for due diligence on his end as the person who sent the knife is. Having the newer member send the knife first and then turning the deal down for already-known issues is akin to trying to buy a used car and then taking it back after you get cold feet....the dealer wouldn't take the car back and the more senior member shouldn't try to renig on the trade deal.....very bad form.
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We really have no idea if buyers remorse or cold feel has anything to do with this.
I doubt that was the case, and he may have thought all was not disclosed.
In truth we do not know. We only know what we've read here.

If either party isn't happy with the trade I feel its always best to undo the deal. If a person doesn't want to trade with that condition I feel its best not to trade here. Most all trades here do go smoothly though.



OP, you may want to think about selling the knife and then buy the one you want. For me that way is less hastle, and a Gold membership here is well worth the price. Good luck.
 
So we have two directly conflicting statements, and they have appeared many times.

1. The deal is closed only when both parties are satisfied.

2. Buyer's remorse is not a legitimate basis for refusing to go through with a deal.
 
Maybe a link of this thread should be sent to the other member so he can have a chance to respond and see why he was not happy with the knife.
 
If there are issues with the knife (other than stated/pictured), the other guy has every wright to change his mind about the trade.
Otherwise I must agree, is bad form on his side. He should send the knife back along with reimbursement for initial shipping.
OP didn't do anything wrong.
 
Pretty much what every one ells has said. Deal is not done until both parties are happy. However the person who had buyers remorse should pay you for having it shipped out to him. (IMOP)
 
mquez said:
Pretty much what every one ells has said. Deal is not done until both parties are happy. However the person who had buyers remorse should pay you for having it shipped out to him. (IMOP)
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That's the point. This is NOT what everyone else has said.
 
Yup the person who is not satisfy pays for the other person shipping cost .
 
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We do not know that this was buyer's remorse. I highly doubt that has one thing to do with why it was sent back.

We only know one side of it.

If the OP really thinks that it was buyer's remorse he can name the person and send him a link to this thread.
We can't just assume it was buyer's remorse until we hear the other side of this.
 
We also don't know that it had anything to do with the knife not being accurately described. Either way I would also like to hear the other side of the story.
 
If buyers remorse was the reason for the return then I would agree completely that's very poor form to say the least and at a minimum return of shipping should be due. However, we don't know that was the case.

Maybe it was buyer's remorse, or maybe it was that the other party felt the knife was not accurately described although a good faith effort was made to do so by the OP. These thing's are very subjective. We just don't know at this point so without hearing from the other party we really can't say one way or the other. We know the OP is not happy about it. Which from his prospective I can completely understand.

It does illustrate though that understanding the rules and customs of the exchange should be carefully considered when deciding, if based on them the trade forum is a place you want to do business as this type of thing can and does happen.
 
At least it sounds like you'll be getting your knife back. Some folks are very particular about their knives, and he might've noticed something you missed.
 
Thomas Linton said:
Says who?
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In some cases, says the people involved. If it is an issue with buyer's remorse then the recipient should cover the shipping costs. It's what many would do, myself included. Someone else should not have pay real money for my own indecision. That is why you ask as many questions as you can BEFORE the deal, and ask for pictures of stated damage and use.
 
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