Traditional Knife and Gun Picture Thread

Hatchet_Jack said:
That was my buffalo load, did the job.

Historically speaking, mountainmen were documented using up to 200gn when reaching out on longer shots 😬

I go by the “use as little as possible but as much as necessary” mantra.
Mind you I don’t target shoot and where I live hunting shots can stretch out there. I don’t want to have to aim over a stags back at 130yds to arc it into the vitals. To each his own I say 👍🏼
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afishhunter said:
The manual for my TC big bore (.54 calibure) Hawken gives a recommended charge of 120 grains 2F regardless if shooting patched ball or greased bullets weighing consideraby more.
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You guys are talking about something different from what I was saying. For a new shooter, good advice is to start with the lightest loads and work your way up in 5 grain increments to the sweet spot for a rifle. If you recommend the maximum load in the beginning, it will cause alarm to many new shooters and likely introduce flinching. I mean ...... you want them to have fun and not get punishing recoil. I shoot .32 caliber flintlock, .40 caliber flintlocks, .45 cal. TC Hawken, .50 cal. Pedersoli Rocky Mountain Hawken, and a .58 caliber custom made Hawken. You don't need over 100 grains of FFG black powder to shoot these rifles accurately, inside 100 yards. It's a waste of powder and not as safe as under 100 grains. I typically have found that 70 grains of FFg in my .50 caliber is the sweet spot for match shooting. If you are shooting all afternoon, you will be able to tolerate the moderate loads much better. Hunting large game, I would use more powder.

From my TC manual for a .50 caliber, this is what Thompson Center reccomends:

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Primble said:
You guys are talking about something different from what I was saying. For a new shooter, good advice is to start with the lightest loads and work your way up in 5 grain increments to the sweet spot for a rifle. If you recommend the maximum load in the beginning, it will cause alarm to many new shooters and likely introduce flinching. I mean ...... you want them to have fun and not get punishing recoil.
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Agree. That is why I mentioned the minimum load based on hundreds of years experience by the world's armies and sportsmen.
For long guns, 1 grain of the appropiate powder per caliber, rounded to the nearst "0" or "5". 36 caliber would be rounded to 35 grains FFFg.
.44 cal. rounded to 45 grains FFFg or FFg. (FFg will give a lower recoil impulse than FFFg, because the powder burns slower than 3F, producing lower barrel pressure, grain per grain.)

While not suggesting or recommending the maximum charges, I felt it prudent to mention them, in the hopes new shooters won't exceed them when working up their target and hunting loads, using the available projctiles.
(and for hunting the legal projectiles. For example, in Idaho, sabots are banned.
So are the popular with the inline muzzleloader's black powder pellets. Loose powder (real black powder or fake black powders like Pyrodex are the only legal powders for hunting in Idaho with a muzzleloader be it a traditional side lock or an inlne.
The percussion cap also has to be visable when at full cock. Cartridge primers for pistol/rifle/shotgun are prohibited. #10; 11; or Musket caps only. (flintlocks are obviously exempt from that regulation.)
Electronics mounted on the rifle/shotgun/bow/crossbow, including but not limited to electrically lit recectical scopes/red dots/lasers, range finders, camera/cellphone, etc. are also banned, unless the shooter has the low vision permit.

Fact is, until 2023, Idaho (and Oregon) banned the use of expanding broadheads when hunting with any bow or crossbow.
Fixed broadheads were the only legal option for big game hunting, and they had to have a minimum 7/8" cutting diameter, with blades a minimum 0.15" thick.
I don't know if Oregon changed their laws or not. If not, they are the only location in North and Cental America (not sure about South America) and quite possibly the world that bans expanding broadheads for all big game.
(I would not be surprised if African game such as Black Death (water buffalo), hippo, rhino, Elly Phunt, and the other "Big 5"/"Big 7" require fixed blade broadheads, and non crossbows with a pull of 80+ pounds. Crossbows might require 200+ pound draws.)
 
Old Hunter said:
Spring turkey hunting about 8 years ago, Winchester M1300 Waterfowl special with an additional turkey barrel and tight choke, a gift from my Dad. That gobbler was a swamp bird and didn't want to leave his swamp; I had to go down in his world to take him - could not call him out to the field even though I tried on two different days! The Buck 110 Folding Hunter is the same Three-Dot in a picture up above. OH
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Nice Bird!
 
afishhunter said:
Fact is, until 2023, Idaho (and Oregon) banned the use of expanding broadheads when hunting with any bow or crossbow.
Fixed broadheads were the only legal option for big game hunting, and they had to have a minimum 7/8" cutting diameter, with blades a minimum 0.15" thick.
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I know we’re going off topic so this is my last comment on the matter.
I don’t really bow hunt anymore, we don’t have weapon specific seasons and I prefer flinters over anything else. When I did, I had mechanicals fail. I’m not opposed to them, but if I ever get back into it I’ll just stick to fixed blades.

In other news, the state next to mine just banned bow hunting (“cruel”) in a deal the party who won the election made with an anti hunting group ☹️. I used to do some bow hunting over there too, no longer.

What part of the state are you in?
 
draggat said:
Hope ya'll don't mind..... like I said some time back, being a city slicker, I have an affinity for air guns, mainly because I can safely shoot indoors and it's cheap!
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Not at all 😉
That's a pretty nice looking combo, a top break Webley & a stag Lambsfoot, love it 👍

Although you are giving me some possibility bad ideas with an indoor shooting range, I know Mrs Hoovie will NOT be down for that... Watch out babe!!!... LIVING ROOM IS HOT!!! 🤣
 
ZHoovie said:
Not at all 😉
That's a pretty nice looking combo, a top break Webley & a stag Lambsfoot, love it 👍

Although you are giving me some possibility bad ideas with an indoor shooting range, I know Mrs Hoovie will NOT be down for that... Watch out babe!!!... LIVING ROOM IS HOT!!! 🤣
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I've used my hallway as an indoor pellet gun range. Sometimes being a bachelor has its benefits :p
 
ZHoovie said:
Not at all 😉
That's a pretty nice looking combo, a top break Webley & a stag Lambsfoot, love it 👍

Although you are giving me some possibility bad ideas with an indoor shooting range, I know Mrs Hoovie will NOT be down for that... Watch out babe!!!... LIVING ROOM IS HOT!!! 🤣
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mbkr said:
I've used my hallway as an indoor pellet gun range. Sometimes being a bachelor has its benefits :p
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My wife actually doesn't mind at all. Just have to make sure there's no wild shots!
 
Speaking of the Mrs

Mrs Horsewright at the range Saturday.

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Rifle is a Christensen Arms in 7mm WSM. Knife is a Horsewright Vaquero, her edc and sheath and belt are Horsewright water buffalo overlay. Our daughter working with mom's Weatherby in 6.5 Creedmore.

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And with her friend's big boomer, a Christensen Arms in .300 Ultra Mag:

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6.5 Creedmore on the right:

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Pistol time too:

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