"Traditional" means traditional...

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Personally, I try to be as accurate as I can be about the proper pattern names. I remember a time when I was surprised to learn that my "Equal End Moose" was actually a "Double End Trapper" [LG4, p. 216]. Very interesting reading for me after that. (Thanks Elliott - :thumbup:)

I recently posted a thread I called Honest Working Knives, and one I had really stumped me: it's what I called a "Harness Stockman" by Camco, but I'm not sure if I have the pattern name right. It's a Stockman with an awl, but no pen blade. So, I try to be as accurate as possible, but sometimes I just can't find the right info. I know I can come here, though, and someone from the vast well of knife knowledge can help me figure it out. That's why I love this place.

Blues said:
If you go by LGIV, (and I can't think of a good reason not to), it's a Bull-Head.

An equal-end, double-end knife based upon the cattle pattern. An image of such a knife, a Winchester, (with blades in reversed configuration) is on page 190 of LGIV as I recall.

However, under the new rules established by Kerry, this knife would henceforth be known as a two bladed whatchamacallit.
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I'm feelin' all empowered & Bullheaded myself, so, I just wanna know - where's my "Doohickey" Forum? And we need a forum for "Doodads" too. :D And while we're at it, can we have a "Hummel" forum? and a "Matryoshka Doll" forum? And a . . .

Elliott, you can be the moderator for these extra forums. We have full confidence in your supreme capabilities. Kerry can't do it - he'll be too busy making our forum knives for us! :p

~Chris

ps - Kerry . . . 54? Really? I swear you don't look a day over sixty. :p
 
orca8589 said:
I'm feelin' all empowered & Bullheaded myself, so, I just wanna know - where's my "Doohickey" Forum? And we need a forum for "Doodads" too. :D
Elliott, you can be the moderator for these extra forums. We have full confidence in your supreme capabilities.
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Well, I'll email Spark right after I drink myself into a stupor (and wake up again) and ask him to rename the "Gadgets & Gear" Sub-Forum the "Doohickey & Doodad" Sub-Forum.

As to my moderating that area...in the immortal words of Lyndon Baines Johnson:

"I shall not seek, and I will not accept..."

;)
 
Blues said:
If you go by LGIV, (and I can't think of a good reason not to), it's a Bull-Head.

An equal-end, double-end knife based upon the cattle pattern. An image of such a knife, a Winchester, (with blades in reversed configuration) is on page 190 of LGIV as I recall.

However, under the new rules established by Kerry, this knife would henceforth be known as a two bladed whatchamacallit.
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If it's going to be called a whatchamacallit, then you have to give equal representation to thingamajig. Fair's fair.

And there will be no committee formed until there is a panel to look into the need for a committee. If we're gonna do this, then we do it right!

Yeah!
:D

Carl.
 
jackknife said:
If it's going to be called a whatchamacallit, then you have to give equal representation to thingamajig. Fair's fair.

And there will be no committee formed until there is a panel to look into the need for a committee. If we're gonna do this, then we do it right!

Yeah!
:D

Carl.
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I'm sorry, Carl, but the discussion of thingamajigs is off-topic for the Whatchamacallit sub-forum.

However, we will move it to the Doohickey & Doodad Sub-Forum and leave a link behind in Whatchamacallit so that we can try to accommodate everyone.

;)
 
Blues said:
I'm sorry, Carl, but the discussion of thingamajigs is off-topic for the Whatchamacallit sub-forum.

However, we will move it to the Doohickey & Doodad Sub-Forum and leave a link behind in Whatchamacallit so that we can try to accommodate everyone.

;)
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Where are we supposed to post discussions about "what the hell is the name of this damn things"?
 
Blues said:
In BRL's forum, obviously!

:p
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Okay, so I just describe it and say, "it's you know like sharp and I think it's old, but I don't know and I don't have a picture and it doesn't look like anything I've seen before, but I'm hoping to sell it for several thousand dollars, what is it?"
 
wagglebee said:
Okay, so I just describe it and say, "it's you know like sharp and I think it's old, but I don't know and I don't have a picture and it doesn't look like anything I've seen before, but I'm hoping to sell it for several thousand dollars, what is it?"
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You're getting a bit off-topic for whatchamacallit but if you look at the header for BRL's forum..Bernard Levine's Whatchamacallit Collecting & Identification... it should be rather obvious.

First he helps you to identify the whatchamacallit you have in your collection, then you can come here and have an intelligent discussion about it.

:D

(And you guys thought being a moderator was easy...)
 
Blues said:
You're getting a bit off-topic for whatchamacallit but if you look at the header for BRL's forum..Bernard Levine's Whatchamacallit Collecting & Identification it should be rather obvious.

First he helps you to identify the whatchamacallit you have in your collection, then you can come here and have an intelligent discussion about it.

:D
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Sorry, my mistake.

Please don't ban me from the whatchamacallit forum. :eek:
 
knifeaholic once posted; "Remember, pattern nicknames are never etched in stone and have evolved from the old days to the modern collector era." That's pretty much my thought too.

Here's a Case 6292 referred to as a "Texs Jack" by many Case collectors but some wouldn't call it a "Texas Jack".

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Basically, it's a run of the mill Jack knife. Then you can add Double-End to it and get a Double-End Jack knife and continue from there.
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Knifehead -- I'd still like to get a serious answer from you as to what you think our 2010 Forum knife should be called -- pattern wise that is.
 
Modoc ED said:
Here's a Case 6292 referred to as a "Texs Jack" by many Case collectors but some wouldn't call it a "Texas Jack".

Basically, it's a run of the mill Jack knife. Then you can add Double-End to it and get a Double-End Jack knife and continue from there.
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Actually, before today, that pattern would be considered a premium jack (as it is based upon the stockman frame).

A run of the mill jack would most likely be a "standard" jack. But what do I know?

I'd better stick with whatchamacallits.
 
wagglebee said:
Actually, I think it would be a black and chrome two bladed whatchamacallit.
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"dark colored" and "shiney" would be more in line with whatchamacallit standards but you are getting the hang of it. :D
 
Blues said:
Actually, before today, that pattern would be considered a premium jack (as it is based upon the stockman frame).

A run of the mill jack would most likely be a "standard" jack. But what do I know?

I'd better stick with whatchamacallits.
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Actually, before today Elliot but you are right in that is based on a Stockman frame with squared bolsters to boot and as pointed out on page 234 of Steve Pfeiffer's "Collecting Case Knives Identification and Price Guide", the 2-bladed version of the Case 92 pattern is sometimes referred to as a Texas Jack by collectors.
 
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I can't even follow along. My ADD is flaring up, I have no sense of humor and I'm just not very funny. All I know is that the nomenclature can get really confusing. GEC has more than a few patterns called one thing, that remind me of something else. AG Russell's new Sowbelly, while quite nice, looks just like a dogleg.

Whatchamacallit sounds just about right.
 
Modoc ED said:
Actually, before today Elliot but you are right in that is based on a Stockman frame with squared bolsters to boot and as pointed out on page 234 of Steve Pfeiffer's "Collecting Case Knives Identification and Price Guide", the 2-bladed version of the Case 92 pattern is sometimes referred to as a Texas Jack by collectors.
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Ed, I think all of us who own and collect those two blade "92" patterns (I have several) are aware that Case calls it a "Texas Jack". Actually, some of their double-end "47" patterns (and many other knives by other manufacturers, ie. Schrade and Primble by way of example) are referred to with the same designation in various guidebooks. Go figure.

I was simply referring to what the "actual" pattern is based upon as opposed to the manufacturer's nomenclature. (This applies to both the "32" pattern as well as the "92" in two blade form.)

If one uses Levine's Guide as a go-by, a "Texas Jack" is a double-end pattern based upon a stockman frame with a wide clip master and either a spey or spear blade secondary (of the same length). He makes little differentiation between it and the "Moose" pattern. Though Steve Dick refers to the spear bladed incarnation as a "Texas Jack", and the spey bladed version as a "Moose".

And that's a wrap...
 
MHill said:
I can't even follow along. My ADD is flaring up, I have no sense of humor and I'm just not very funny. All I know is that the nomenclature can get really confusing. GEC has more than a few patterns called one thing, that remind me of something else. AG Russell's new Sowbelly, while quite nice, looks just like a dogleg.

Whatchamacallit sounds just about right.
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+1. All this is a bit much, I think I'm starting to get a headache.

- Christian
 
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I like this Bull-Head name:D

My Gran had an enormous striped cat called Bull-Head.
Much better than Moose..can't imagine her having one of them loose in the house:D
 
I don't care what they call it, but they better call it that somewhere else.
 
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