Treasures From Jack's Virtual Table

I was hoping to get a few more knives cleaned up today, but sharpening this LB7 has really eaten into my day. The edge was perfectly even, but as Sheffield cutlers say, you could have "have ridden bare-arsed to London" on it! I don't understand how the previous owner could have let it get so (beyond) dull while keeping the blade otherwise pristine. There are not only no previous marks from sharpening, but no marks from use at all. Surely it couldn't have left the factory unsharpened :confused:

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Thanks David :thumbsup:

Just scooped this one out, but it'll have to wait until tomorrow now :)

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With only 3 good digits on my right hand (I ripped half the nail off my pinky a couple of days before stabbing myself in the thumb), I probably didn't pick the best time to do this, but thought I'd at least clean the verdigris off this Uncle Henry Bearpaw LB7. I've only seen a couple of these in person before, but I think this one is from the 80's. Certainly a solid knife! :eek: Hoping it's going to sharpen up OK, as I don't think it's been sharpened since it left the factory, and is blunt as a butter-knife - perhaps just as well with my recent track record! :eek: Maybe I'll wait a few days until I sharpen it :rolleyes: :thumbsup:

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I was hoping to get a few more knives cleaned up today, but sharpening this LB7 has really eaten into my day. The edge was perfectly even, but as Sheffield cutlers say, you could have "have ridden bare-arsed to London" on it! I don't understand how the previous owner could have let it get so (beyond) dull while keeping the blade otherwise pristine. There are not only no previous marks from sharpening, but no marks from use at all. Surely it couldn't have left the factory unsharpened :confused:

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Looks like a new knife, Jack! I gotta say, I'm a tad surprised to see you polish away it's history, though.:D I like the patina the brass built over time. However, I can understand the desire to get rid of the verdigris. Many of my stainless knives show almost NO marks from usage, especially when careless sharpening is absent. Stainless/Carbon; each has it's pros and cons. Glad you were able to get the edge tuned up.:thumbsup:
 
Looks like a new knife, Jack! I gotta say, I'm a tad surprised to see you polish away it's history, though.:D I like the patina the brass built over time. However, I can understand the desire to get rid of the verdigris. Many of my stainless knives show almost NO marks from usage, especially when careless sharpening is absent. Stainless/Carbon; each has it's pros and cons. Glad you were able to get the edge tuned up.:thumbsup:

Hey Mark, hope you're having a good weekend :) I'm not a fan of brass, but have a number of brass bolstered knives, and I suspect that if I put it back in the belt pouch for a couple of weeks, it'll look much like it did previously :D I have a lot of stainless knives, but as with all my knives, I endeavour to keep them sharp, and never get them as dull as this one ;) :thumbsup:
 
Hey Mark, hope you're having a good weekend :) I'm not a fan of brass, but have a number of brass bolstered knives, and I suspect that if I put it back in the belt pouch for a couple of weeks, it'll look much like it did previously :D I have a lot of stainless knives, but as with all my knives, I endeavour to keep them sharp, and never get them as dull as this one ;) :thumbsup:
Thanks, Jack. You too, my friend!;)
There is no use for a dull knife!:thumbsup::D
 
I was hoping to get a few more knives cleaned up today, but sharpening this LB7 has really eaten into my day. The edge was perfectly even, but as Sheffield cutlers say, you could have "have ridden bare-arsed to London" on it! I don't understand how the previous owner could have let it get so (beyond) dull while keeping the blade otherwise pristine. There are not only no previous marks from sharpening, but no marks from use at all. Surely it couldn't have left the factory unsharpened :confused:

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I recently bought a Buck 110 (of which that Schrade is a brazen--pun intended--copy!), and it came RAZOR sharp. Was testing on arm hair and drew blood while barely touching it to my arm. :cool:
 
I recently bought a Buck 110 (of which that Schrade is a brazen--pun intended--copy!), and it came RAZOR sharp. Was testing on arm hair and drew blood while barely touching it to my arm. :cool:

As a teenager, I'd have given my eye-teeth for a Buck 110 Vince (they weren't available here then), don't know why I've never bought one :rolleyes: Probably the most copied folder of all time. Buck did send me one of the Titanium-handled models many years later, but I've never carried it (I don't even have a pic) :thumbsup:
 
This is a Ruderer (Solingen) Sausage Tasting Knife. I rather like this pattern, and have a few, they come with a fork and without, sometimes with a clip so you can carry it like a pen, and usually have a long slim Melon Tester-style blade. All the examples I have have stainless blades, and several have French Ivory covers, like this one. They are frequently supplied as advertising knives. This Ruderer model is 4 3/4" overall, with a blade of nearly 4", has seen some regular, if careless, sharpening, but is currently very blunt.

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Here's another couple of knives I bought in a job lot, German-made Okapi Ratchet Knives, a simple, and rather ugly knife in my opinion, but one which certainly has a place in knife history, and indeed a cultural presence. It was first produced in Germany in 1908, intended to be a very cheap knife for export to German colonies in Africa, and to other poor parts of the world. I first came across these knives in the Middle East in the 1970's, but they are more commonly associated with Africa and with the Caribbean, where the knives have long been associated with criminal gangs. Since 1988, they have been manufactured in South Africa.

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These two, clearly very different in appearance, lack the 'moon and stars', which gives the knife it's Jamaican nom de guerre of the 'T'ree Star'. The steel is 1055, the handles are resin impregnated cherry. As well as being carried by 'Rude Boys', and being referenced in several Reggae classics, Rolling Stone Keith Richards famously carried one.

I am a fan of 'Peasant Knives', a category the Okapi knives certainly fits into, but despite it's history and sub-cultural importance, I personally think the Okapi Ratchet Knife lacks the charm of the Douk-Douk, for example.

Okapi make a couple of other patterns, which I also own (the latter thanks to r8shell r8shell ), which lack the inherently dangerous locking mechanism, and which I certainly prefer.

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Here's some more job-lot knives. For anyone who doesn't know, this first one is a Budding/Grafting Knife, note the distinctive wedge-shape on this type. The nicer ones have brass liners and ivory covers. The tang stamp says C.H. James Ltd, with a partially erased English place name underneath (it ends in 'ough'). I don't know the firm, but I dare say they were a gardening supply/hardware firm/store, who had the knife made in Sheffield.

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There's no tang-stamp at all on these other two knives, both Sleeveboard Penknives. I think the first one, at least, may be German rather than English. Unfortunately, one of the bolsters is missing from the second knife.

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Here's a couple of Sheffield Sleeveboard Penknives. The first, like the Jack I posted about earlier, is by W & JA Baxter Ltd. Some wear to the blades, but the jigged bone covers in nice condition :)

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The other, by George Butler, has seen a lot of use, and lost most of its snap, with the tip of the long main blade riding up out of the frame as the spring has worn from use.

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It's a shame it's so worn, as Butler's made a great knife in my experience. The firm date back to the latter half of the 18th century, and in the late 19th century, they had one of Sheffield's largest cutlery works, manufacturing scissors, razors, and table cutlery, as well as pen and pocket knives. They were always known for their high quality products, but like most Sheffield firms, they struggled after WW2, and were liquidated in 1952.

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I was born into a city awash with pocket knives, and as I was the first-born of my generation within my family, knives were put aside for me from my birth. Strangely, the first knife I was given was not made in Sheffield, it was a Nepalese Khukri, which my favourite uncle had brought back from his time in the Navy. My mother thought it should stay at my grandparents, (where my uncle lived), until I was a little older, but I carried it around when staying with them, attached to my Snake belt. At my parents house, there were two pocket knives which were always mine, given to me by the same uncle I think. I don't remember much about the larger of the two, except that it had black covers, and I wasn't yet strong enough to open it. I think it was a 2-blade Jack. The other smaller knife was made at the Richards factory in Sheffield, where my dad worked when I was very young. It had a patinaed blade, worn from being sharpened on curb stones, and a secondary accessory blade with a bottle-opener and screwdriver. On the mark side cover of the knife, there was a colourful picture of a Native American warrior on horseback, with a feathered headdress and lance. Underneath the picture, in script, were the words Little Chief.

On a summer evening in 1968, when I was 7, I went out to play with some school friends who lived half a mile or so down the road, and I slipped the Little Chief in the pocket of my shorts. I've carried a pocket knife ever since.

I'm always filled with wonder when members here post pics of their first knife. I'm not sure what happened to my Little Chief. Most likely, I gave it away to my younger brother or another kid, when I got a 'better' knife. There were knives all over in Sheffield in those days, particularly the cheap Richards knives, they had virtually no value, and why would anyone want more than one?

Over the years, I've handled tens of thousands of Sheffield knives, probably more than that in fact, but I've never come across another Little Chief.

Then, a few months back, in a junk shop, in a small West Yorkshire market town, I came across this knife.

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I quickly realised that this knife was of the same pattern as my Little Chief, and from the same series. In fact, it had been specifically marketed as a Boy's Knife. I'd always thought that the point on my knife had been blunted from use, from all those games of 'Splits' (or Mumblety Peg), but in fact it was sold like that. The plastic lanyard had also gone long ago.

It's nice to be able to join a few dots about the first pocket-knife I carried, but I still hope I'll find another Little Chief one day :thumbsup:
 
As a rude boy myself, I like the inherently dangerous locking mechanism, but I prefer the Cold Steels to the Okapis, for the materials and the fit.
Now where did I just see a French ratchet knife in several sizes?

This is for you Rudy! ;) :D :thumbsup:


The Cold Steel Kudu filled me with horror! :eek:
 
Thanks for the Specials song Jack.
And of course I'm diggin' the knives.

I've got a 'Robin Hood' Richards knife in the same pattern as your Big Chief. Oops, I mean Little Chief.
 
both blades were very sharp, as I found out when I stabbed myself in the thumb while lightly cleaning the Pen blade :eek:

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Now your blood has mingled with the blood/DNA of who knows what alien species. :eek: Keep a diary and the phone near
by in case you start to evolve into a new hybrid species. ;).

Being an unrepentant scrounger, I enjoy seeing the fruits of your labour, Jack,
rescuing worthy old cutlery from a fate worse than death!!
I hope your digit heals well!!:)

I wanna see the reality show, Knife Hoarders and follow them into Duncan’s and Gary, G2G’s house. Elliot’s or Gus’s hoards would be nice to go through too.

Hey, you know there’s gotta be some mega hoards out there in the Traditional forum landc

Tip-bolsters are something I think make a penknife look really classy :)

I love tip and candle tip bolster, done right they’re beautiful and strong too.

They provide no structural strength and easily fall off to spoil the classy look.

See above comment. I have a 100 year old Camillus with tip bolsters and it’s a beautiful, functional blade and at 100+ y/o it’s held up remarkably. I’ll have to dig up a pic to post.

I wanted to add,Jack, we have the same tastes in traditional knives and you’d be very comfortable in mine and I’m certain I’d be right at home with yours. ;)
 
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Thanks for the Specials song Jack.
And of course I'm diggin' the knives.

I've got a 'Robin Hood' Richards knife in the same pattern as your Big Chief. Oops, I mean Little Chief.

Thanks pal, that's cool about the Robin Hood knife. I think I've seen a photo of one (sometimes they used the same pictures on different patterns) :cool: :thumbsup:

The scales have fallen from my eyes! I've reformed!:D

:D :thumbsup:

Loving this thread Jack keep it up! Your knowledge and memories are priceless.

Thank you very much my friend :) :thumbsup:

Now your blood has mingled with the blood/DNA of who knows what alien species. :eek: Keep a diary and the phone near
by in case you start to evolve into a new hybrid species. ;).



I wanna see the reality show, Knife Hoarders and follow them into Duncan’s and Gary, G2G’s house. Elliot’s or Gus’s hoards would be nice to go through too.

Hey, you know there’s gotta be some mega hoards out there in the Traditional forum landc

Who knows Ted! :eek: :D The wound to my thumb has finally healed, but my pinky is still bleeding two weeks on o_O

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