Triforge Knives! First knife that will be for sale. Name pending

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Bladesteel is S30V
If you guys have any name suggestions please comment it. Handles will most likely be G10
That's a Carbon Fiber Spyderco Sage, btw
(Not for sale, this is pre heat treat)
 
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Good work bro! Now you need to upgrade your membership and go orange like me.
 
Can you explain what we are looking at in the last picture? I'm having trouble visualizing what angle or direction that is. Secondly, and I mean this with all due respect and don't mean to offend, but you may want to keep at it for a while before considering selling. The profile and shape is quite rough and the plunge line having the over grind into the ricasso is an issue IMO. I prefer a more ergonomic or more contoured handle rather than just a straight stick. I don't mean to discourage, but wanted to be honest and helpful. Few things can hurt a maker worse than starting to sell before they are truly ready. They get frustrated when knives don't sell, or look back a year or two down the road and cringe at what has their name on it when they see how far they have advanced since that point.
 
Grayzer86 said:
Can you explain what we are looking at in the last picture? I'm having trouble visualizing what angle or direction that is. Secondly, and I mean this with all due respect and don't mean to offend, but you may want to keep at it for a while before considering selling. The profile and shape is quite rough and the plunge line having the over grind into the ricasso is an issue IMO. I prefer a more ergonomic or more contoured handle rather than just a straight stick. I don't mean to discourage, but wanted to be honest and helpful. Few things can hurt a maker worse than starting to sell before they are truly ready. They get frustrated when knives don't sell, or look back a year or two down the road and cringe at what has their name on it when they see how far they have advanced since that point.
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Thanks for the input, this is just the rough grind of the knife. It hasn't been heat treated yet. The handle actually bulges out towards the end so it's actually pretty ergonomic, and will be more so once I put a handle on it. The last picture shows it from the back
 
For a name pick a theme you want to follow. A local bow maker came out with a line named after dinosaurs, TRex, Raptor etc.
 
First thing... we got three views of the same side of the knife. What does the other side look like? I need to ask because, like Grayzer, I would say I see a severe problem at the ricasso. If it is mirrored on the other side, then I might believe it was intentional and that you have some plan to make it look less like a problem and more like a feature. If it isn't mirrored on the other side it is definitely a flaw, and a pretty bad one at that.

Also, I can't help but noticing that the inside curve behind the ricasso is EXTREMELY rough. I know, you'll dress it out later. But really, you should do at least that much before spending time grinding the bevels.

And it is my eyes or is there some tapering at the very end of the tang? If so, how do you plan to attach scales so that isn't a problem?
 
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tryppyr said:
First thing... we got three views of the same side of the knife. What does the other side look like? I need to ask because, like Grayzer, I would say I see a sever problem at the ricasso. If it is mirrored on the other side, then I might believe it was intentional and that you have some plan to make it look less like a problem and more like a feature. If it isn't mirrored on the other side it is definitely a flaw, and a pretty bad one at that.

Also, I can't help but noticing that the inside curve behind the ricasso is EXTREMELY rough. I know, you'll dress it out later. But really, you should do at least that much before spending time grinding the bevels.

And it is my eyes or is there some tapering at the very end of the tang? If so, how do you plan to attach scales so that isn't a problem?
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There's no tapering at the end of the tang, and I plan on putting a satin finish on both sides. The mistake on the ricasso isn't deep at all, I plan on finishing after heat treat.
EDIT: The dark you see there is marking dye
 
Do what I did. Hang this on the wall of your shop with a nail, and
make another one. Look for every little flaw in this wall knife and don't do it
again. I look at some of my early knives and cringe that I thought they
were well done. This is one of the few ways ANY craftsperson grows. Look
at your latest work, find the flaws and what caused them and vow to not make
THAT mistake again. Don't worry, you'll find lots more as your skill increases,
but they will be smaller, less noticeable, until you can put out a finished knife
that everyone, well almost everyone, says,"Wow, that's really nice!".

Welcome to a craft that will bring great joy and great frustration at the same
time. It's a dark path from which there is no escape.:D

Bill
 
Don't wait to fix things after heat treat. Especially not on high alloy steel. Takes exponentially longer to fix the smallest flaws and the methods available dwindle. I've regretted that mistake many times. Also, try some thinner stock In a cheaper easier to work steel! The temptation is to go beefy and be stronger than commercial stuff, in reality a lot of commercial stuff is too thick because its easier to machine and less warranty claims when Jim Bob batons his skinning knife though dry hickory knots.
 
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Bill Hoffman said:
Do what I did. Hang this on the wall of your shop with a nail, and
make another one. Look for every little flaw in this wall knife and don't do it
again. I look at some of my early knives and cringe that I thought they
were well done. This is one of the few ways ANY craftsperson grows. Look
at your latest work, find the flaws and what caused them and vow to not make
THAT mistake again. Don't worry, you'll find lots more as your skill increases,
but they will be smaller, less noticeable, until you can put out a finished knife
that everyone, well almost everyone, says,"Wow, that's really nice!".

Welcome to a craft that will bring great joy and great frustration at the same
time. It's a dark path from which there is no escape.:D

Bill
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Thanks, that's a good idea. I'm just not confident I can replicate the shape with cutting
 
I've never made a knife, just a couple of handles. That aside, the last pic from the top view it looks like the grind lines aren't even on the spine? Is that lighting. I can't imagine how hard those would be to get even. Also is that a slight recurve, then belly?

Congrats on stepping up and making a nice knife and posting here. I look forward to seeing more of your work.
 
rnbtexas said:
I've never made a knife, just a couple of handles. That aside, the last pic from the top view it looks like the grind lines aren't even on the spine? Is that lighting. I can't imagine how hard those would be to get even. Also is that a slight recurve, then belly?

Congrats on stepping up and making a nice knife and posting here. I look forward to seeing more of your work.
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The line where the spine meets the grind hasn't been straightened out yet, and there's no recurve. As the others have pointed out there's a lot of kinks to work out but I'll get there! Thanks :)
 
Kinks, no. Keep getting better and sharing your work with us. To me the overall shape is the most important thing and the attached image was enough to get me interested enough to dig in and read. Good job and keep it up.
 
The ricasso is extremely rough. Even if you fix the obvious over grind, it still won't be crisp or well executed IMO. The last shot of the spine shows that the grind is significantly asymmetrical, and at least to my eye it doesn't appear to be fixable. Try something if you would humor me, take a ruler or square piece of stock and cover up the portion of the spine up to the taper/grind area leaving a perpendicular 90 degree edge at the start of the taper. It will show you just how off/asymmetrical the grind is. The handle also looks rough/uncomfortable to me, and the edge still has obvious flaws. Having said all this, keep in mind I haven't even made my first knife, and I can easily see all these flaws. I don't think anybody on this forum would buy that knife. Maybe eBay, but why would want to put out a knife with so many flaws? You said you don't think you could replicate the shape again right? That's another sign you may not be ready to sell. Why don't you finish it and keep it for yourself? Next time maybe have the forum critique your design on paper, then attempt to execute it. The overall shape/design is good, and I do think you have potential as a maker... You just aren't quite there yet IMO.
 
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91wm6 said:
The ricasso is extremely rough. Even if you fix the obvious over grind, it still won't be crisp or well executed IMO. The last shot of the spine shows that the grind is significantly asymmetrical, and at least to my eye it doesn't appear to be fixable. Try something if you would humor me, take a ruler or square piece of stock and cover up the portion of the spine up to the taper/grind area leaving a perpendicular 90 degree edge at the start of the taper. It will show you just how off/asymmetrical the grind is. The handle also looks rough/uncomfortable to me, and the edge still has obvious flaws. Having said all this, keep in mind I haven't even made my first knife, and I can easily see all these flaws. I don't think anybody on this forum would buy that knife. Maybe eBay, but why would want to put out a knife with so many flaws? You said you don't think you could replicate the shape again right? That's another sign you may not be ready to sell. Why don't you finish it and keep it for yourself? Next time maybe have the forum critique your design on paper, then attempt to execute it. The overall shape/design is good, and I do think you have potential as a maker... You just aren't quite there yet IMO.
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I can draw it very well on paper, but after I make it now I know what I messed up on, and how to make it :) thanks for the input.
 
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