True Story...If a folder doesn't have a flipper it's obsolete!!!

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Those are opinions and thanks for sharing them. I would say both methods are equally efficent. Which ever is your preference is just that. Now to truly evolve every folder would need a wave.
 
What if you are walking through thick undergrowth and you need to use your knife but there is no nearby area where the blade can swing completely open without hitting something. Your flipper-only knife just became a two-hand knife or, at best, an knife that is awkward to open.

Flippers are cool but they do not make all other opening methods obsolete.
 
benchwarmer380 said:
Those are opinions and thanks for sharing them. I would say both methods are equally efficent. Which ever is your preference is just that. Now to truly evolve every folder would need a wave.
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These are not opinions, they are facts.
1. Most efficient way mechanically to deploy the blade. Pull of a finger tip as opposed to push of the thumb.
2. When deployed the flipper acts as a guard.

Feel free to test #1 yourself...test to see which one uses the most movement to deploy...I'd say 99.87% of the time folder with flippers are the winner for least amount of movement.
#2 is non debatable.

and yes the WAVE is evolution.
 
I love flippers too, wish the 0550 has a flipper, although I can wedge my finger in between and nudge the blade and flick and it acts like the worst flipper in the world.
 
1. They are about the same. It is pretty much the same movement with different appendages at different angles. Just a flick. Manual flippers will generally need more wrist help than thumbstuds.

2. Is mostly correct. Check out the Boker Burnley Kwaiken.;)
I'm not disagreeing with that part. I quite like that aspect of flippers, especially on a Skyline or my 561. Now I wouldn't want that thing sticking out of my BM 710. Nor would I want a superior wave on my 710 because it would ruin the aesthetics.
 
Aren't flippers all liner locks and frame locks, meaning they're not really all that strong?

I like flippers, I own two, but no matter how much titanium or new fancy XGB8237_1337 steel they have, they'll never be as strong as one of these.

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Not only that, but I find a thumb stud or round hole to be more ergonomic than a flipper. To me, flippers are fun EDC knives more than anything else.

Everyone has their own preferences and it's silly to act like your preferences and subjective opinions are fact.
 
I've never been able to open a flipper, didn't know about the wrist flick but that seems like a lot of added movement which I do not desire.
 
Cynic2701 said:
They seem to get in the way of things more than they are useful. Since I use my knives to cut - and pretty much never to stab - the flipper design actually makes a knife less useful when cutting on a flat surface, as the flipper prevents the use of anything but about an inch of edge near the tip.
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This. Flippers are great when executed well, but my collection shows that I do not prefer it over other methods.

I don't do much stabbing if at all either and when I do, my NON flippers haven't cut my fingers off yet.
 
I would hate to have a flipper on my small knives, like Spyderco Jester's or Ladybugs. Those knives are so small they just disappear in your pocket, and having a flipper would just take up unnecessary room. I don't know what I would be doing that would necessitate opening them in .03 seconds instead of the .5 it usually takes so I can sacrifice the easy opening as well. And lastly, why would I need a guard on a tiny knife? that would either take up handle space or decrease blade length, both of which I would not like to give up.

With that said, I like controlled openings of my knives. Living in CA, there are a fair amount of people who wold call a flipper an automatic knife or just be scared of it in general. With my non-flipper knives, I can control how fast and how far I open them. And again why would I need a guard? If I'm fighting for my life the last thing I'll be worried about is blocking the opponent's knife but then having it slip down and cut my fingers off. And again, we get to the size issue. The flipper can catch or even partially deploy in my pocket. I don't need that. I like my manual knives. And these are not facts, they are opinions and are non-debateable.
 
I like flippers on zero tolerance... some other kershaws.. other than that meh.

when flicking a thumbstud with thumb more of your fingers and hand remains on the grip of the knife. just did this with my benchmade 810. whereas if you are using the flipper with your index finger, more of your hand and fingers are cocked off of the knife.. for me atleast.
 
having a traditional flipper on a penny knife is not evolutionary
but it sure makes life easier.
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whilst a case russlock on the other hand
sure is the best of its kind that i m aware of.
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blixxx said:
These are not opinions, they are facts.
1. Most efficient way mechanically to deploy the blade. Pull of a finger tip as opposed to push of the thumb.
2. When deployed the flipper acts as a guard.
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I like my flippers, but your 'facts' are only advantages because it is your own preference.

1. It may be fastest, but the position of my hand after operating the flipper is nowhere near a secure grip. Opening with the thumb leaves my fingers in a much more natural position.

2. I rarely want/need a guard.
 
My AK-47 opens off my pocket, one movement rather than two.

The handle is cut so the hand cannot slide onto the blade.

Therefore thumb plate Cold Steels > flippers.
 
All of my flippers have thumbstuds as well. They open faster with the studs for me.
 
blixxx said:
As a red blooded American and US NAVY Veteran, I like my "things" to have the most features...flippers inherently have the most features.

Come at me, bro!
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Gee, I have a non-flipper my Wife bought me that has:

1. Water Tight Cavity (I use it for tinder,)
2. Emergency Whistle
3. Ferrocerium rod

And it opens with one thumb.

No necessary connection between flippers and features.

And I have two flippers. Not my favorites.
 
blixxx said:
These are not opinions, they are facts.
1. Most efficient way mechanically to deploy the blade. Pull of a finger tip as opposed to push of the thumb.
2. When deployed the flipper acts as a guard.

Feel free to test #1 yourself...test to see which one uses the most movement to deploy...I'd say 99.87% of the time folder with flippers are the winner for least amount of movement.
#2 is non debatable.

and yes the WAVE is evolution.
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Guess you never heard of either automatics or assisted-opening knives, Much less effort to open.

But wait! Autos have been pointed out to you any yet you ignore those facts.

Very sad.
 
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