Trying to understand why, so let's discuss it

[JAB]

P.S. I love, own, carry, and use “Traditional” as well as “Modern” knives but I somehow manage to find a way to do so without denigrating others’ choices.

 

[JD Bear]

Posted on a 14k dialup modem from an AOL chatroom....

You kids and your technology...

 

[JAB]

P.P.S. Can’t we all just get along?



*What I happened to have handy - didn’t really feel like digging more out

 

[Hickory n steel]

Two words:
"Marketing Hype"

That was the idea I had before, I thought Lynn Thompson just convinced everyone that a pocket knife needs to be hardcore.

I am starting to realize that while it may be true for some aspects of modern folders there may have been more of a desire for such a knife before it's existence than I realized, I don't know If everything was a solution to an existing problem but I suppose there were probably always people who would see modern folders as an obvious choice.

The bulky overbuilt tank folders that don't cut very well have to be a product of marketing, but the more modest ones that cut well maybe not so much.

 

[Danke42]

Ten pages in still don' t get it.

 

[JAB]

Ten pages in still don' t get it.

Doesn’t want to.

 

[Insipid Moniker]

The bulky overbuilt tank folders that don't cut very well have to be a product of marketing, but the more modest ones that cut well maybe not so much.

When you let the limits of your imagination define what explanations you accept you condemn yourself to a smaller, more limited world. That seems to be the root of your problem.

 

[JD Bear]

Don't use a lamp because candles do the job just fine....but when you do, you better use a match and not a lighter....

 

[trevitrace]

Don't use a lamp because candles do the job just fine....but when you do, you better use a match and not a lighter....

Lighters were invented first.

 

[JAB]

Lighters were invented first.

Really?

ETA: Just googled it - I guess you do learn something new every day.

 

[Hickory n steel]

The same way Marketing made me think I need a car with AWD, ABS, Collision avoidance features, and a $#!+ ton of airbags when a Model T will “Get me where I’m going just fine, thank you very much.”?

Locking blades are definitely a safety improvement for a good many users and steels with better edge holding increase productivity/decrease downtime spent sharpening or, worse, struggling to continue on while using a dull/continually dulling blade.

I'm not going to argue that modern folders don't have benefits for some because they obviously do, but your analogy sounds like an infomercial for the latest as seen on TV product.
You know the kind where you're practically gonna loose a finger if you try to cut a tomato with your old " dull " knife so you need their new yoshi knife or whatever.
Just saying, as I'm sure you already know they're not really that bad and nobody is saying technology shouldn't exist.

 

[JAB]

I’ll give you a real life example: I had to break down some large boxes and happened to have the Sodbuster pictured handy - didn’t make it very far before becoming unusably dull so I went and grabbed the Large Sebenza which easily cut through more cardboard than the Case did and was still plenty sharp afterward.

 

[Hickory n steel]

When you let the limits of your imagination define what explanations you accept you condemn yourself to a smaller, more limited world. That seems to be the root of your problem.

Limits of my imagination?
Those inch thick " knives " that Jim Skelton guy shows off, what am I supposed to think?

Those are the kind of knives I was referring to.

 

[craytab]

I'm not going to argue that modern folders don't have benefits for some

I think you need to replace the word "some" with "most". Sorry kid, time to accept the way things are and move on to worrying about something that matters..

 

[JAB]

Y’know, I can’t believe I’m actually being forced to argue against my beloved Cases but I do know what they’re capable of (or not...) and am not so blinded by their aesthetics that I can’t recognize that there just may be much better options for some uses out there.

 

[Hickory n steel]

I think you need to replace the word "some" with "most". Sorry kid, time to accept the way things are and move on to worrying about something that matters..

I am definitely done worrying about it, but that's all I'll really say.

 

[Hickory n steel]

Y’know, I can’t believe I’m actually being forced to argue against my beloved Cases but I do know what they’re capable of (or not...) and am not so blinded by their aesthetics that I can’t recognize that there just may be much better options for some uses out there.

I understand you have experienced some downsides to traditional folders for your needs, I simply have not.

If one of my slipjoints ever folded on me, required sharpening multiple times a day, or I dropped it off a ladder or something because my other hand was full I would likely carry something modern.

 

[Danke42]

It's true. It's nearly impossible to calculate averages without having some sort of preposterously small calculation machinery that you could grasp in one hand and work the punch keys with the other.

 

[JAB]

I understand you have experienced some downsides to traditional folders for your needs, I simply have not.

If one of my slipjoints ever folded on me, required sharpening multiple times a day, or I dropped it off a ladder or something because my other hand was full I would likely carry something modern.

You say that and it’s a perfectly reasonable response. The problem everyone has is that this whole thing started with you basically stating that you don’t see a reason for modern folders existing and wonder why everyone doesn’t just carry traditional pocket knives.

 

[willc]

I use both traditional knives and modern ones.

I don’t see why anyone would shun either type.