tv advertiseing? pros and cons ?

What???...You've never seen the "Ginsu Knives" commercial??? Later made into a 30 minute infomercial??? :eek:

Ginsu has to be the best-known knife brand...bar none...kids, housewives, executives, people who don't even own a knife know what a Ginsu knife is... :rolleyes:

Cuts through a steel reinforced radiator hose and can still cut a tomato!!! What a knife!!! :D ("But wait, there's more!") :p http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ginsu

trax you missed useing your decoder ringy thingy:eek: turn tell the 2ed dile makes you crosseyed .:p
will it sell ... wow look at the gnnsueee ah-cho choppy choppy cheeppy...
they are still selling the he2l's out of them!!! :D :D
 
What???...You've never seen the "Ginsu Knives" commercial??? Later made into a 30 minute infomercial??? :eek:

Ginsu has to be the best-known knife brand...bar none...kids, housewives, executives, people who don't even own a knife know what a Ginsu knife is... :rolleyes:

Cuts through a steel reinforced radiator hose and can still cut a tomato!!! What a knife!!! :D ("But wait, there's more!") :p http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ginsu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abLB7aTmnE4
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I'm thirty years old...but good guess. I'm very young at heart. :)

I think you misundertand a lot of what I'm saying...

I'm not talking about marketing to any crowd that existed in the past. I'm actually saying "market Buck to those same weekend warriors that read Field & Stream" that you are talking about. (to make up for that lost market, no?)

Do you want to know why?

So that Buck can sell more knives in more outlets and make more money.

Do you want to know why?

So that the company doesn't go under because as you said in your post "Most people's disposable income today goes towards the purchase of cheap, black plastic items from China."

From what you've posted, it seems like you're saying that these "psuedo" sportsmen of today don't deserve to buy a Buck knife. Well I don't know of any company that prospered with that type of attitude towards any demographic.

On to your point about "The very fact that Asian products sell like they do is a testament to this. The sportsmen of yesterday would have never purchased these goods."...you already said that that group doesn't exist anymore. Do you want Buck knives to go the same way eventually? If that group of "educated" buyers doesn't exist anymore...who the heck are you supposed to sell your knives to? Wouldn't it be logical to say anyone who wanted one?...or anyone who Buck could get to want one?

I just bought a diamondback from Buck knives that was made in Taiwan. Buck themselves have stated that they need to make these cheaper knives to compete, because as you stated...the average american buys cheap imported knives.

Now let me ask you this question...Isn't this the same group of people that I'm saying should be marketed to so they DON"T buy the cheaper imported knife? If they have the choice of a 20 dollar import and a 20 dollar USA made, don't you want them to make the USA choice? If they're not made aware of the brand, how will you get them to buy it?

To be honest, it seems like you are debating this really basic concept just to debate it. The question is...

Do you feel that "everyone" should have a Buck knife...or do you feel that only "true outdoorsmen like yourself" should have a Buck knife?

It sort of sounds like the latter to me...which to be honest is okay. You should be proud of your abilities and experience...but it doesn't mean you should be so proud that you don't think the average Joe should be made aware of the quality and dependability of a Buck knife.

You should still want other people to support the company even if you think they won't use a knife to the potential you could...so that you'll always be able to buy a Buck knife for yourself...cause the company would still be making them for many years in the future.

Schrade and Camillus lovers can't do that anymore can they? It's cause they went out of business, right?

If you think that these ideas are not compelling...what do you think Buck could do to ensure that they don't go the way of these other fine American institutions?
 
i ran acorss a young man that had a broke 412 buck lite
he had no idear you could get a new blade on it .. wow he said when i told him
he had a new 110 because the 112 broke as his girlfrends dad said they were a top shelf knife..

he is a lot more buck smarter now
so why not advertise to the under 30 market.

if they dont know they dont know!!! some one has to tell them!!
tho i at first was not incline so i have pulled a waffel and changed my mind

yes advertise for the younger market!!
once we were young our selfs and we were sold on buck sooner or later
so what if it tool a mag add or a internet add to catch your son or daughter
on a quality knife!

ok doky aza 77... comerical needed what would you make?
dave
 
Buck seems to sell two types of knives.....Traditional knives and the new, modernistic, sometimes multi-colored, quick openers that young urban guys love to flash around.

Since there's a lot more new urban buyers than traditional......focus is shifting to the urban warrior folding knives.

Most of them don't even watch outdoors shows or read outdoors magazines.......and advertising self-defense knives is too terrifying for most people to bear.

Niche magazines about mercenaries and such are probably a possibility.

American manufacturers will have to downsize and put all their eggs in one basket......featuring only real expensive and even more expensive knives like Canal Street has done.

Not many heartbeats left in America for anything else.
 
Rocinante...

I agree with the heartbeats statement.

Wish we could change that...
 
334dave...

What kind of commercial would you like?

Inspirational? Historical? Informational? You name it we got it! :)
 
334dave...

What kind of commercial would you like?

Inspirational? Historical? Informational? You name it we got it! :)

inspire all us old timers!!!
darn it we need inspireing in something!!!
most of us are so old~ [yea here it goes]
we are like that blue tick hound sleeping in the sun...
jest cause we rember chasing wabit dont mean we rember why...
 
i still think TV advertiseing could be a good thing..
but wander what you ''newbies' think of the idea ??
 
i still think TV advertiseing could be a good thing..
but wander what you ''newbies' think of the idea ??

Wow it's resurrecting old thread month;)

I think so Dave. I watch bull riding and I see Kershaw sponsors cowboys and have thier logo on the flack jackets-might as well have a commercial. The problem I see is that while I'm sure Buck would have a very wholesome down home conservative commercial(I can picture it in my head right now), many of the tacti-cool brands I expect would be too "way-out" there for tv with dramatic/scary demonstrations. Second problem is it even permitted by the fcc(I'm guessing its not)
 
Wow it's resurrecting old thread month;)

I think so Dave. I watch bull riding and I see Kershaw sponsors cowboys and have thier logo on the flack jackets-might as well have a commercial. The problem I see is that while I'm sure Buck would have a very wholesome down home conservative commercial(I can picture it in my head right now), many of the tacti-cool brands I expect would be too "way-out" there for tv with dramatic/scary demonstrations. Second problem is it even permitted by the fcc(I'm guessing its not)

I'm sure it's it note a problem with the FCC. If weapons were an issue then the hunting shows I watch would not be doing firearms commercials.

If the marketing folks at Buck thought TV commercials would significantly improve sales they would already be using that type of sales program. I suspect the numbers just don't justify the cost. However, what do I know as I'm not into marketing or sales!
jb4570
 
I haven't read all the comments here, but off the top one real problem is that TV advertising is very expensive. Aside from Buck's cutlery, which may do well on TV advertising, I think that the standard Buck knives are already well known in the market they are made for. It is not as broad a market as that which standard TV reaches. Aside from the kitchen cutlery, TV advertising would likely be suitable only for their low-end products, the Select line mostly and the lower priced ones at that.

One thing is certain: If Buck started advertising on TV, expect some price increases in their products to cover the new expenses of advertising.
 
i think the sport tv shows may be the way to break in to it..
they could sponser a hunt and the star could ware a jacket with Buck on it
and use buck knives during the show...
the biull rideing is also a great idea
what of NASCAR sponsership?
great big logo on the hood?
what do they cost ?
on the side ?
 
One thing is certain: If Buck started advertising on TV, expect some price increases in their products to cover the new expenses of advertising.

LOL...now that is funny and true. The reason I said funny is the first time I bought a brand new Truck. They were working up the cost and the sales guy said....."this is a $300.00 charge from Dodge for it's advertising cost". WHAT are you talking about? Sales guy said "you know Dodge is charging you for the TV add's they run:eek::eek::mad:.

My thoughts......
A guy is in the knife store and he is buying a new Paradigm Pro (don't laugh they will be available some day:rolleyes:) at a price of $180.00 MSRP. The knife salesman rings him up and asks for $244.00 in cash! The guy buying the knife goes....WHAT? The salesman tells his customer with a straight face....."$180.00 for the knife and $50.00 for advertising fee from Buck and the rest is tax". That would float like a trud in a public pool:thumbup:
jb4570
 
I'm sure it's it note a problem with the FCC. If weapons were an issue then the hunting shows I watch would not be doing firearms commercials.

If the marketing folks at Buck thought TV commercials would significantly improve sales they would already be using that type of sales program. I suspect the numbers just don't justify the cost. However, what do I know as I'm not into marketing or sales!
jb4570

Ya know jb I almost didnt post that cause I wasnt sure if I ever saw guns on outdoor channel commercials or not-little brain fart. I rarely watch commercials and have remote in hand for immediate action. Drive the wife absolutely crazy...walked out on me last night flipping between Penguins game and Quigley down under. She just dont understand how cool the 1/2 mile shot at the beginning is.
 
I think AM radio,may be a better bang for the Buck.A minute or so about the beginning of Buck inc,the quality,made in the USA,Lifetime warranty,see the new models!! Tool for a Lifetime! Sam Elliot makes some great commercials.Great voice!
 
ues sam elliot would be a good voice
some folks jest should not lend their voice
i could not enjoy the Life show as her voice was jest .. wrong..
 
wow this is an old thread but i had reason to be reading in it
and thought well why not reseract it
it is a idea that buck might bennfite from some tv advertiseing
and well as we have some newbies )?( here
it might be worth seeing what they think ...
 
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