Two Hand Forged 52100 Integral Bolster Knives

Graham - I too am surprised that these are still here. Good luck!

Folks - I've held these pieces personally and have been to Graham's shop. The fit and finish is as smooth as a brand new baby's butt and the edge is wicked as they come.
 
I think its just because folk over here don't know me, or my work yet.

Unfortunately you have to sell a few knives for the word to get around, but yet you have a hard time selling knives if no one has heard of you... such is the paradox of sales...as well as a few other things in life :p

For anyone who is interested in these knives, but afraid of taking a risk because of my "unknown" status:

I pride myself in the quality of my blades, firstly in performance and equally in fit and finish. I stand behind my work 100% (I'd say 200%, but that is physically impossible ;) ). My work is warrantied for as long as I am still alive and able to make knives, so if it fails because of poor workmanship, I will repair or replace it, no if's and's or but's about it. AND if you purchase one of my knives and are unsatisfied with it in any way whatsoever, send it back and I'll give you a full and complete refund.
 
I've been following along with this thread each time someone posts to it because they are such sweet blades and I want you to find the right buyer for them, Graham. That style blade isn't what I'm after right now, but they sure are attractive! Seeing them has also prompted me to check out your well made web page. I like your work very much and the breakdown of photos from conception to completion was interesting to examine.

Best of luck with these, I'm sure they are going to make someone very happy.
 
Thanks Brass, thats what I'm hoping for.

I've got some youtube videos of some of the forging and construction processes I use in action as well, http://www.youtube.com/user/FredeenBlades for those interested.

And here's a fun little one I did of some mid-air paper cutting with one of the knives I did in the past (sold now though).

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Need to get some more videos uploaded (got a complete documentary of making a pattern welded blade recorded and in need of editing, and would like to take some more movies of shop/blade related stuff), but I've been much much too busy to even think about any of that :rolleyes: . Someday maybe ;)

Thanks for looking.
 
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I think your knives look very very nice and the craftsmanship and quality is evident but they are a different style for sure. They do look like high end chef's knives. So I think they are in a niche market. They look like they would be more at home julienning (sp?) onions or boning a chicken than being out in the woods getting beat on. Which isn't a knock. I haven't been here long but I have bought a few knives on here and it does seem the more EDC woods knives sell easier. So these particular ones might sell better on a cuisine forum. I believe this is the thread where the woman asked if you could make a set of steak knives like them??? If I had unlimited funds I would definetely add one to my collection.
 
Akthor, I sort of agree with you. The fact that they look like high end paring knives is one of the main reasons I wish that I could afford them.
 
To each his own. Someone will like something, someone else may not.

Personally I don't look at these as kitchen cutlery, the blade shapes are not really the same, and I certainly didn't make them for that purpose. The integral bolster style of these blades is not something you see very often, save in kitchen cutlery ;) which could be where this view comes from. I look at these as quite nice high end EDC/utility blades, something you'd want to carry around and show off (and get some use out of them too). However someone else may think they belong in the kitchen, thats fine too.

Everyone will view things based on their own opinions, and I slight no one for that, but I don't think its fair to narrow the down the view of what these knives are (or could potentially be) and just classify these as kitchen knives. Their purpose is whatever the customer will dictate.
 
fwiw I look at them as very attractive and high quality bird & trout knives. I've had thoughts of buying one for my brother's 50th birthday as he does a lot upland bird hunting and fishing too. The only thing is his birthday is over a year and half away.
 
Either of these would serve the purpose of a bird and trout knife pretty well Brass, and would make a wonderful birthday gift for your brother :).

At this rate one (or both) may still be available by the time your brother's birthday rolls around ;). Course you could get your birthday shopping done early, I'm sure you wouldn't mind having one of these keep you company for a few months until its time for your brother's B-day ;)

Course that could be risky.... you might not want to give it to him then, lol.
 
Graham, i see these as well made, most attractive, Utility, B&T, or Kitchen knives. basically a knife for many uses. i'm sure i could easily field dress a deer with either, as the profile is one that i prefer for a dedicated Hunter.
and i love using any sharp knife in the kitchen. why not ? a well made knife always imparts enjoyment with use.
I think the holdback is your price. there are many well established makers who sell a comparable integral for the same or often less.
i think if you knocked $50 off the price, they would sell fairly quickly.
when you get glowing FB posted here, the next ones might go a little higher; and with some time, you'll be back up to your initial asking prices.
but please don't just abandon BF. we do want to see more of your knives.
roland
 
Roland,
No one has mentioned anything about abandoning BF, and I will (eventually) be posting more of my blades here as they come along. However my shop time is very limited, and often dominated by commissions so its not always very often that I have available blades.

I have told you, I am a very patient person and I am sure someone will want to purchase these blades, be it here or elsewhere. I'll continue to keep the posting around for potential customers to see until that time, and at the very least, people get to enjoy my work through the pictures.

I do question why you thought it necessary to bring up your pricing suggestion here, seeing as we have already discussed this same exact matter in private. I don't think a public for sale forum is the appropriate place to discuss a seller’s pricing, nor do I think it is the most respectful thing to bring up in a seller's listing.

However, since you brought this up I do feel the need to address this.
Firstly, while I may not be well known around Blade Forums, I am far from an un-established maker, these are not the first knives I have made, and are certainly not the first knives I have sold. I have sold quite a few knives for a good deal more than these and don't see the need to start over with my pricing. The quality of my work justifies my pricing structure, and I as a maker have the right to set whatever prices I wish on my work.

The prices for these knives are quite fair for what they are, the skill necessary to produce them and the quality of the craftsmanship. I always try to set a fair price for my work. I don’t try to stiff people, take people, rip them off, “make off like a bandit,” or whatever saying one prefers. I don’t make knives for the money, I make them because it is what I love doing, I make blades to make the best knife I possibly can, and to grow and spread the craft of bladesmthing to others. Selling my work is a way to recuperate some of the large investments I’ve made in my shop, and to give me some funding to continue on with it (and help fund some of life as well). I never try to be excessive in my pricing, and always try to price “within” the market. But at the same time, with the vast amounts of work and time and care I put into my blades, I refuse to cut myself short and give my work away for practically nothing. This would be a disservice to myself, to my work, and to those customers who would wish to collect my work. There are some makers out there who charge practically nothing for good quality work, this doesn’t make a great deal of sense, but that is up to them to decide and their right to do so. At the same time there are those out there who do marginal quality blades who ask a fortune (no one here that I have seen, but there are a few you run across on the internet). I try to ask what is fair, plain and simple.

Yes drastically cutting the price of these blades would help them sell faster, but then what would be the point of selling the knives, that just removes the incentive to part with them. If someone just wants a knife for the “best deal” there are plenty of factories that churn them out for cheap. People buy custom knives for the quality, materials, craftsmanship, and very often, aesthetic beauty of a custom blade that sets it apart from other knives. The quality of these blades and the work and skill that went into making them more than easily justifies their price, it is a fair price, and it is the price I stand by.

I hope this did not come across as an attack on you, or harsh in any way, because I did not intend for it to be. I just wanted to provide some insight into my reasoning.

And btw, I personally haven’t seen very many comparable integrals to these around, I’d be interested in seeing others, the integral is always something that has fascinated me and I haven’t seen a great deal in this size or style (or really all that many integral bolster knives in general, comparitavily of course).
 
Graham, if you re-read the many posts in this thread, i think you might see that others said much the same as i did. but couched in terms like "i wish i could afford it", or "if funds were unlimited", etc. (those may not be exact quotes).
why not bring up pricing here ? these have been around for some time now and viewed by many potential buyers, but remain unsold. other FBs posted here are selling reasonably well.
as for all the time, skill and cost of tools and materials, i agree 100%. knifemaking rarely seems to pay well, especially if calculated on an hourly basis.
my posts and email to you have been intended as supportive and helpful. but i do not mind at all if you reject what i have said. we all must make our own decisions.
good luck with these 2 knives, roland
 
Hmmm, I possibly see a husband and wife pair in my future. How long is the hidden tang? Do you have a spine pic and/or a pic of the choil? I would use mine more in the field but my wife would use hers at home and she likes a thin blade. If no spine pics, what is the width of the spine just in front of the choil? Thanks for your time.
 
Thanks for the interest beyondmyken,

I will take a few more additional pictures of these blades (spine, choil area, and probably a few more detailed pictures of the blade finishes/handles) for you a little later today and post them here. I'll also grab you some spine thickness dimensions to go with the pictures.

As far as the tangs go, they extend ~75%-80% through the handles, and are forged from the same peice of steel as the blade (no separate welded, brazed, or threaded on tangs in other words). I never took an exact measurment of the tangs before I put the handles on, but I made sure they went in deep enough to provide sufficient internal support for the handles.

Thanks,

Graham
 
As promised, here are the additional pictures (seems my camera likes to take close-ups better than the far away shots) and spine dimensions:

Both blades are pretty dead close to 1/8" at the spine (after the radius bolster transition is finished) and have gradual distal taper to the tip.

The blades are full flat ground, and as a result have relatively "thin" blades. They aren't anything like paper thin fillet knives, but they aren't chunky either.

Here is a look at the spine of the big leaf maple:

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And the choil area on the big leaf:

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And a bit of a close up on the handle:

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And here's the smaller madrone burl with similar shots:

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And finally some really detailed shots to better show the hand rubbed finish on these (its a hard thing to capture on camera it seems).

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Thanks for looking,

Graham
 
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