UK knife article will boil your blood

allyourblood said:
i think some people's view of knives and their fondness for them is getting in the way of common sense.

also, people shouldn't have to train their 4 or 5 year old to expect a toy to have a fully functional knife, unless the product is unavailable to children, due to an age restriction.

abe m.
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Amen! :) I don't know how the laws work where this party popper blunder took place, but this wouldn't fly in the USA. I guess what we don't know is how much information was available to the purchasers of the poppers as to what was in them.
 
1. There should have been a warning or a list of potential items on the package etc.. no excuse for this. I think we all agree with that.

2. The demonizing of knives which happened as a combination of #1 and the attitude towards knives was a bad bad thing.

3. A 13 year old should not be afraid of inanimate objects like knives, but she should not have it unless supervised or educated first. Unfortunately the education was simply to pass on fear. This is what the parent chose, and since we don't know the parent personally, we really cannot do anything about it except complain to each other.
 
WadeF
We expect people to respect our rights so why don't you try and respect theirs? If they don't want their kids to have knives and don't want knives showing up in their children's hands without their knowledge then they have the right to be concerned about it
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I agree bud , the problem is though say in an instant like the one were chating about , they allready live in a country dangeriously obsessed with common folk not owning any sort of "weapon" , this type of thing makingthe news and even more parents and "loving State officials" will get all in a dander for even more laws to protect us from ourselves.
Once gain I am glad it didnt happen here , God knows enough of that sort of silliness has happened here in the last decade and look at what it has done (gun and edged weapon laws/hysteria).
To make another point , I used to have an OLD comic book that an uncle gave me , it had a couple of ads in it where you could buy all sorts of stuff that would make any self respecting American soccer mom lose her freakin mind !
Here are a couple of examples.
http://www.mikesfreegifs.com/main4/TootsieRollads.htm -Scroll down to the Savage Gorilla one and look at those goodies kids could buy :eek:

http://home.att.net/~1.elliott/comicbooktoysoldierflatsFootlocker.html
Yet another example of why our society is so horrible and mean and militaristic !!! :rolleyes:
Remember those ads anyone ? :)

Knives ? Guns ? Hell when my little brother and I were kids we would hurl leftover BBQ coals (still red hot!) at each other (until we got caught LOL) shoot each other with homemade bow and arrows and cap guns and slingshots.... lol.. Those WERE the days.
By the way both of us are quite well and alive :D

Oh and zombies really are our friends. :cool:
 
WadeF said:
Haha, at least it didn't come with fuel and you had to get that from an adult, even if it was without their blessing. :) At that point it would be your Dad's fault for leaving lighter fluid accessable to you. If he gave you the lighter fluid he at least had a chance to decide if you should have a functional lighter.
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Oh, they knew I had it alright. My folks were alright with letting me make my own mistakes and learning from 'em... Amazingly enough I grew up without any permanent injuries or felony convictions, all without a Nanny State to protect me from guns or knives. :D

1984 has passed, forget about Big Brother,
Welcome to the 90's where the government's your mother.

- "Goodbye Freedom, Hello Mom" by Scatterbrain

fulloflead said:
Phuck. You're OLD.
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Heh, all that much closer to all those senior discounts and AARP bennies. Eat your heart out.
 
"GOD, GUTS, and GUNS (KNIVES TOO) are what made America great." Hardly Englands finest hour, how can anyone that would buy a gunpowder loaded popper for their child be upset over a TINY knife. This case is just another example of how we (USA) are what prevented the rest of the world from being subjects of a German-Japanese empire. :D
 
For reference, my father gave me a red Swiss Army Knife when my sister was born as a "big brother" present. I was 5 years old at the time. It's one of the first real clear memories I have. The responsibility and trust my parents gave to me that day has been with me ever since. To this day I hold that knife in a very special place. I liked the part about how society is more violent today then ever....BS!!!!!!!!!! People have been killing each other, as does just about every other animal on this planet, since the dawn of time. Taking away a tool from a 13 year old....well...was she retarded or something? Does the kids forks still have corks on them? Does she still wear a chest harness and helmet? 3/4 of an inch for Pete's sake. Be wary though, these idiots are the same ones trying to take over our Country to.

Max
 
rebeltf said:
WadeF


....they allready live in a country dangeriously obsessed with common folk not owning any sort of "weapon" .... :cool:
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Precisely the reason we moved to America and told the King to shove it in the first place. Now we just have to keep the "king" and his folk out.

Max
 
>"I don't think the important part of what is in that article is that there was a knife in a party favor. It is the fact that there are people so afraid of knives that they would teach their children to be just as terrified as them that is so pathetic."

EXACTLY!

>"The mayor's fault lies in generalizing that all knives are evil."

EXACTLY!

Jeez, when I posted the article I definitely didn't envision it going off in the direction it went.
 
what child isn't 'trained' to properly use a knife? Do none of these kids ever enter the kitchen before puberty? I haven't seen anyone suggest sayoc kali, I think a simple, "Billy, don't stick the sharp bit in your leg." is more along the lines of the training for a child.
 
I see nothing wrong with a pocket knife in a cracker, if a kid got the cracker either the kid is old enough to use the knife or should be opening the cracker under adult supervision which should also supervise on the knife.

In this particular case the girl thought about "cutting twine for bales of hay for her horse", I wonder, how does she cut twine today ?.

It is true that it is the right of parents to keep knives away from their kids, but that doesn't make it right.

I agree with others that the main point of the article is not about a knife in a cracker, it is about people having unreasonable feelings against knives.

Luis
 
In this particular case the girl thought about "cutting twine for bales of hay for her horse", I wonder, how does she cut twine today ?.
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With her Teeth !!!! HAHAHA!!!! :eek: :) ;) :D\
 
Boxes of crackers usually do show you the type of thing that come inside as they range from plastic crap upto expensive jewellery, and I assume you wouldn't want to pay £100 for some crackers that contained rubbish. As far as I could see, there was no mention in the article that the box DIDN'T contain a warning.
I think the problem here is that in the UK it is illegal for anyone under 16 to buy a knife, and as a knife is infinitely more dangerous than a corkscrew say, there should be a warning in massive letters on the box like on cigarettes.

Surely the girl had the right idea? She didn't say "Oh now I can go and stab that girl who picks on me", she suggested a responsible use for the knife. I swear she is the only one who comes out of the article looking like she has any sense.
 
Hi !


Wow so Americans don't have crackers! I have learnt something new today.

I think its now obvious this is not a foodstuff! and no its not a firework either.
A cracker when you pull it gives this pathetic little pop (far less than a party popper) you couldn't hurt someone with one even if you wanted to.

Literally, there is a tiny smear of gunpoweder on a long piece of paper which is stuck to another piece of paper deep inside the cracker. as they seperate it cracks (like a twig cracks when you snap it) thats it. No flame. No smoke.

Any resposible parent would have checked the contents of the crackers. It does say clearly on the box (by law) what the contents are (and mentions that children can choke on or get cut on the contents). You can get sexy crackers with condoms and stuff in for adults... so it really is up to the parent to chose wisely.

When I was 10 in the UK I used to walk around our local towns (Ipswich / Colchester) with a 5" sheath knife on my belt. Nobody freaked out. Nobody even commented. How sad a place the UK has become today.

If you treat children like "small adults" then they will behave resposibly and more often than not live up to the trust you have put in them. If you treat them like completely irresponsible retards then thats how they will behave. A sad sign of the times.

Nice to see theres some fellow UK knife nuts out there! I was feeling lonely.
 
Hello, Rebeltf,
I remember that footlocker ad, always thought it sounded great :) ,
Forget the archery set and rifle, it says that one of the prizes was a live pony, how the hell would you get that in the mail? :D ,
Who could forget the joys of torching army men :) ? Almost as much fun as setting them up at the bottom of the back yard and and sniping at them with my first air pistol :) .
Not everyone in the UK likes the way things are going under Big Brother Blair and his nanny government, not all of us are hysterical halfwits who act like Pavlov's dogs when we're presented with his months bogeyman.
if it's not knives it's something else :rolleyes: .
Btw, Rebeltf, I couldn't help noticing that scurrilous pro-zombie propaganda at the foot of your message have you been got? 's a g'damn conspiracy! :D
Must go now, there's been a van marked "Pizza delivery" parked across from my house for two days now..I think that they're beaming some kind of zombie ray at me :D :D :D
 
Btw, Rebeltf, I couldn't help noticing that scurrilous pro-zombie propaganda at the foot of your message have you been got? 's a g'damn conspiracy!
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oz23 ! A real live pony ! Wouldnt that be the tops!? lol , imagine playing cowboys and indians with your friends , you'd be the only one one a real horse ! (assuming a pony and a horse are the same animal lol).
Not to get this post off of context but if have ever watched 'Day of The Dead' , zombies can be trained to do common household chores, imagine the joy of coming home to your spotless house that your zombie maid has been dutifully cleaning all day whilest you were at golf , lol. I have several zombies that I use for mundane tasks like mowing the yard and vacuuming , the coolest part is you dont have to pay 'em and they only eat brains ! :D
 
mnblade said:
three-quarter inch metal knife was inside a cracker
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I'v coughed up more dangerous things than that, this country is so pathetic there just arent the words to describe it.
 
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