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Washed, dried, clay bar'd, washed again, dried, polished, waxed.....

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WAY WAY too much work to be worth it. 6 hours and that doesnt include doing the windows, running boards, tires, wheels, or inside. I wont be doing this but MAYBE twice a year.

Lookin good man! I really need to give the Jeep a bath. Haven't really scrubbed her good since the last bath at the end of winter. Somehow a dirty wrangler just looks right sometimes though...
And the silver doesn't really show unless you smudge it then see the clean mark lol. I have cleaned the wheels, tires, and plastic a few times for photo ops 😁
 
True dat...I'm still waiting for that to happen to me lol.

It can happen you just might not like the costs of it LOL. I hate making the $506 monthly payment.... But every time i hop in it and start driving i forget the costs HAHA
Same here, cept I fill and refill all of it and stash it. Could be worth more than gold one day. Never hurts to have a bit around for Justin... just in case...

Don't worry about expiration dates, it's all false. And by all means, please don't flush into a public water system.


Dont flush pills into a public sewer??? Why??

Not that i will, i have my own well and septic tank. (separate of course) :D

But im thinking LOADS of drugs get flushed into public sewers in big cities.
Lookin good man! I really need to give the Jeep a bath. Haven't really scrubbed her good since the last bath at the end of winter. Somehow a dirty wrangler just looks right sometimes though...
And the silver doesn't really show unless you smudge it then see the clean mark lol. I have cleaned the wheels, tires, and plastic a few times for photo ops 😁

Thanks bud!!

This is the first time i waxed and all that but I have deep cleaned my wheels 3 times total now, but i do wash my truck once every other week at a minimum... Just quick washes, dont take 30 minutes and i enjoy making her look nice for a day or 2 LOL

Silver is another good color for dust. My last taco was silver and was still better than the reds, blues, blacks, and dark greys around here. My father has a silver dodge and it does well with dust. Not quite as good as my white truck but close. My wife's bright red car shows dust like crazy. We wash them the same day, drive them both to the same place, than hers looks like it hasnt been washed and mine still looks mostly clean.


Funny note... Curt's Chevy and my father's dodge were both manufactured in Mexico. Says it on the door jam.... My Japanese Toyota was manufactured in Texas... I like to tell them my truck is more American than theirs :D
 
Funny note... Curt's Chevy and my father's dodge were both manufactured in Mexico. Says it on the door jam.... My Japanese Toyota was manufactured in Texas... I like to tell them my truck is more American than theirs :D

I think my Chevy was made in Louisiana. Kinda happy about that.
 
Pretty sure my dodge was made in the states, not really sure how to tell for sure though
 
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Pretty sure my dodge was made in the states, not really sure how to tell for sure though

Open the driver door and look at the stickers in the door jam. One will say manufactured in "?????" somewhere on it.

My step brothers ford just says made in USA though. Doesnt say a state and doesnt say "manufactured"


Its a ford... SO prolly manufactured somewhere horrible :p
 
Thanks.

If i drive past the driveway i won't be able to tell. I live a mile and a half down a dusty dirt and limerock road. No rain in a few days so the road is especially dusty. I'm talking you look in your rearview and only see a cloud of white dust behind you.

Going slow helps a little... But it never fails after a wash, someone else will haul ass past me and dust me out.

And I'm taking the kids to a birthday party this evening... So... That clean won't last past today.

But the wax helps protect the paint and makes it easier to wash again... The clay bar and polish made the waxing a bit easier.... Definitely gave it a nice shine.

I have read you should wax your vehicle at least twice a year to protect the paint. I have never waxed any of my vehicles in the past but i also never had a vehicle i liked this much. Still too much work... Especially when the shine won't last long at all.

I'm lucky my truck is white though... It hides the dust pretty good.. The black rims are a different story LOL
Here in the Northeast, most of us let a good layer of salt and winter road grime protect our paint. If you leave it on all summer, it'll get renewed the following winter and you NEVER have to wash and wax your car. I've got a friend that has his car oiled....like, the whole underside of his truck gets coated in oil. He swears by it, and his last truck went for maybe a dozen years with no rust issues. Personally I find neglect to be the best method of care, like zzyzz. Amen to that, brother.
 
To flush or not to flush... That is the question. In a nut shell, don't flush except in certain conditions.

Essentially, the FDA and DEA say to only flush controlled substances (e.g., methadone, codeine or morphine based drugs), and prescription pain killers (e.g., percocet, percodan, vicodin) IF you have kids or pets that might get into them if disposed of in the "proper method", which is to mix uncrushed pills/capsues in with unpalatable substances, e.g., coffee grounds, cooled cooking greases, mustard, kitty litter, etc, then seal the mixture in a plastic bag and discard in regular trash.

The problem that is popping up with dropping medications down the toilet is that the pills dissolve in the water, are not filtered out of the water during standard sewage treatment practices and are discharged into downstream waterways. The residual meds in the water are then ingested by water creatures. Some meds, like antibiotics, will start acting like over-prescribed meds in humans, creating drug resistant strains of bugs that could overwhelm the natural resistances to the bugs that the aquatic organisms might naturally have. It has not been studied about how some drugs interact with non-target species, e.g., everything not human. It may affect their reproductive systems, nervous systems, etc in ways that the drugs do not affect humans. Also it has not been studied, but theorized that some drugs might be able to concentrate in some fishes with no toxic affect on aquatic organisms, but could be toxic, even deadly, to humans eating the critters. Kinda like what has happened with mercury in tuna and swordfish or DDT, chlordane, arsenic, etc in freshwater fishes such as catfish, bass, etc.

Yes, there are millions of pounds of drugs flushed into sewage systems around the nation, especially in big cities. And downstream of those major cities is where the issues w/ high levels of "XXXX" are found on aquatic organisms.
 
Here in the Northeast, most of us let a good layer of salt and winter road grime protect our paint. If you leave it on all summer, it'll get renewed the following winter and you NEVER have to wash and wax your car. I've got a friend that has his car oiled....like, the whole underside of his truck gets coated in oil. He swears by it, and his last truck went for maybe a dozen years with no rust issues. Personally I find neglect to be the best method of care, like zzyzz. Amen to that, brother.

I will ditto the Amen. Don't get me wrong, If I had a vehicle of my choice I'd wash it regularly. Since I no longer have the choice of vehicle that I drive, I'll let the owner wash it ;)

Mike, the oil spray :thumbup: I get mine done yearly ($100 cash) and our 2007 grand prix doesn't have a spot of rust on it. The sand and salt up here in the winter is pretty intense.
 
who does this hear oil spray thing?

I try to do a carwash 3x a year, including the undercarriage treatment w/ the waxy bit. My 2008 truck's in pretty good shape, but could be better. Also, I haven't been getting it there as often as necessary...
 
Here in the Northeast, most of us let a good layer of salt and winter road grime protect our paint. If you leave it on all summer, it'll get renewed the following winter and you NEVER have to wash and wax your car. I've got a friend that has his car oiled....like, the whole underside of his truck gets coated in oil. He swears by it, and his last truck went for maybe a dozen years with no rust issues. Personally I find neglect to be the best method of care, like zzyzz. Amen to that, brother.


I have neglected my fair share of vehicles... But this wont be one of them.

My father recently paid someone to do a full detail on his dodge. wash/clay bar/ wax interior/exterior. Engine bay, tires... The whole 9. It cost him almost 300 bucks. I said screw that. too much money.... SO i bought the stuff i needed for about 50 bucks and did it myself.... SCREW THAT TOO. I know why it cost so much now. Id charge 500!!!

The stuff i bought added to the stuff my wife/kids got me on father's day added to a couple items i already had in the shop... Now i got plenty stuff to detail my truck... Everything needed except the motivation to do it again :D

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To flush or not to flush... That is the question. In a nut shell, don't flush except in certain conditions.

Essentially, the FDA and DEA say to only flush controlled substances (e.g., methadone, codeine or morphine based drugs), and prescription pain killers (e.g., percocet, percodan, vicodin) IF you have kids or pets that might get into them if disposed of in the "proper method", which is to mix uncrushed pills/capsues in with unpalatable substances, e.g., coffee grounds, cooled cooking greases, mustard, kitty litter, etc, then seal the mixture in a plastic bag and discard in regular trash.

The problem that is popping up with dropping medications down the toilet is that the pills dissolve in the water, are not filtered out of the water during standard sewage treatment practices and are discharged into downstream waterways. The residual meds in the water are then ingested by water creatures. Some meds, like antibiotics, will start acting like over-prescribed meds in humans, creating drug resistant strains of bugs that could overwhelm the natural resistances to the bugs that the aquatic organisms might naturally have. It has not been studied about how some drugs interact with non-target species, e.g., everything not human. It may affect their reproductive systems, nervous systems, etc in ways that the drugs do not affect humans. Also it has not been studied, but theorized that some drugs might be able to concentrate in some fishes with no toxic affect on aquatic organisms, but could be toxic, even deadly, to humans eating the critters. Kinda like what has happened with mercury in tuna and swordfish or DDT, chlordane, arsenic, etc in freshwater fishes such as catfish, bass, etc.

Yes, there are millions of pounds of drugs flushed into sewage systems around the nation, especially in big cities. And downstream of those major cities is where the issues w/ high levels of "XXXX" are found on aquatic organisms.

Man your smarts.... So basically what you are saying is, it could create Ninja Turtles. Got it :D


I have my own septic tank. Anything i flush goes in there. And HAPPILY have my own well. Well water is delicious. Like bottled water. City water is HORRIBLE. I couldnt drink it in philly. Couldnt drink it in Texas, couldnt drink it here in Florida. But i love some well water.
 
I just live in arid states away from salt water and where they don't use salt on the roads. My '84 Blazer is totally rust free and my '93 has a couple tiny cancer spots and neither ever gets washed.
 
Don't worry about expiration dates, it's all false.

Actually medicines do have a half life where after the expiration date they begin losing potency there by reducing their effects and requiring you to take more to get the same effects. So no, the expiration isn't "false" it's the half life.
 
I have neglected my fair share of vehicles... But this wont be one of them.

My father recently paid someone to do a full detail on his dodge. wash/clay bar/ wax interior/exterior. Engine bay, tires... The whole 9. It cost him almost 300 bucks. I said screw that. too much money.... SO i bought the stuff i needed for about 50 bucks and did it myself.... SCREW THAT TOO. I know why it cost so much now. Id charge 500!!!

The stuff i bought added to the stuff my wife/kids got me on father's day added to a couple items i already had in the shop... Now i got plenty stuff to detail my truck... Everything needed except the motivation to do it again :D

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Man your smarts.... So basically what you are saying is, it could create Ninja Turtles. Got it :D


I have my own septic tank. Anything i flush goes in there. And HAPPILY have my own well. Well water is delicious. Like bottled water. City water is HORRIBLE. I couldnt drink it in philly. Couldnt drink it in Texas, couldnt drink it here in Florida. But i love some well water.

Some of it is a good memory, some of it is due to having read over 10,000 books, some several times, and some of it is good google-foo in just knowing enough to figure out how to get the best out of google or any other search engine.

The issue with flushing meds into a septic tank is that a septic tank is a closed system and the meds just stew in there until you need to have the tank pumped, and then the stuff gets pumped out and dumped into a municiple sewage system en masse. Where else do you think the tank pumpers dump septic sludge?

Assuming you have a 2000 gallon septic tank, with 4 people using it daily, it should be about 4 to 4.5 years between pumpings. You can stretch that out by NOT flushing toilet paper. Also use as little cleaning chemicals on sinks etc. Anything that kills germs will also kill th bacteria in your tank, making it less efficient at eating the shit. The less efficient your good bugs the faster you tank sludges up.

Just because the toilet paper says it is septic safe doesn't mean the bugs eat it well. "Septic safe" just means that the stuff will flush without hanging up in a standard 4 inch line. And those stupid "disposible" POS' s on the end of a toilet scrubber? Just a septic tank plug waiting to happen. And that IS being smart.... due to having between 18 and 24 septic tanks to care for between my house, my parent's house, and at one time 20+ rental houses between us. Damn what stupid city folks flush into a septic tank. :(
 
Good info! Thanks.

We are careful what We flush and dont use much bleach.


4-4.5 years seems short though...

I just went and asked. Curt said he didn't need his pumped until 7 years. And even then it wasn't full, he thought it was but turned out the drain filter was just clogged full of hair from the 2 girls in his house. He had it pumped anyway since the guy was already here.

My father said it's been about 8 or 9 years for him.

3 people both those houses. No idea tank sizes either though. And my father has a separate line for his washing machine that doesn't go into his septic tank. As kids we used a lot of bleach and He said He needed it pumped every 3 or 4 years so He separated the washing machine line and that made a huge difference.

I don't have any idea when the last time mine was pumped. Not while i lived here. But I'm not sure about the last owners. Only 2 adults then...

I guess I'll wait till i need it done and then see how long it takes before i need it again.

Nobody here is experts on the situation.. I think they just wait till it's full or starts backin up... Prolly not the best procedure but i don't know crap about it LOL
 
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I was a little off in my memory.

The Septic Tank Pumping Frequency grid is located here ---

http://inspectapedia.com/septic/Septic_Tank_Pumping_Schedule.php

The frequency data listed there is a rule of thumb based on a lot of measurements and septic tank tracking over time. That said, it is a guesstimate at best. Many factors come into play. If you are on well water, your bacteria are stronger than if you are on a treated water system because the chlorine in the water will kill many bacteria in your septic tank and weaken the ones it doesn't kill.

The flushing of toilet paper will fill up your tank sooner because all the fibers in the toilet paper do not degrade at the same rate, the uneaten ones will sink to the bottom eventually, get buried in decomposed stuff and the degrading will slow or stop completely, filling the tank sooner. Even the bacteria that eat the poop make "poop". Some solids stay suspended in the water and transfer out the tank into the drain field, but at a very low rate. Frequent use of toilet cleaners kill the good bugs more.

Tanks should be pumped BEFORE they "fill up". If the solids build up too much, they will start transferring from the first compartment to the second compartment, reducing tank system efficiency. The purpose of a two compartment tank is to keep the solids from moving out the drain field pipe. If that starts happening, then you get to dig up the drain field and clean out the pipes.

One of my 4 jobs while getting my CS degree after getting off active duty was digging out and cleaning drain field lines. That business and maintaining so many family systems is why I know WAY, WAY TOO MUCH about the processing of poop. NOT, as has been suggested by people who know me that I am full of..... :D It wasn't easy or fun, but lucrative because no one else seems to want to do the job.
 
Oh, and 2 other thoughts ....

NEVER NEVER EVER have a garbage disposal attached to a septic tank system. Putting food directly into the tank that has not been processed through a human gut takes about 8 times as long to degrade.

ALWAYS wipe excess grease from frying pans, etc before washing them. Grease is NOT digestible by septic tank bacteria. If forms a scum on top of the water the reduces gaseous exchanges from the tank water and results in bad pH ranges that affect the bacteria in the liquid. Also the grease will build up and clog the pipes up.

I have also been known to dump the condoms and sanitary napkins fished out of a septic tank right in front of the driver's door of a renters car door where they have to step on them or clean them up AND leave a note that if I found a clogged system due to that stuff in the tank again, it would be a $500 fee.
 
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