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Umnumzaan Thoughts

My only CRK is my recent Wilson Combat 'StarTac' Umnumzaan. It was a tough decision - but I like larger knives. Sure, some chores require a fb - I may get a Nyala for that. But seriously, it's only .180" thick vs .140" on the 'zaan - and 3.75" long vs 3.625" long for the folder. The 'zaan is one serious folder - and can be one-handed open & close - with care. It should have come with the tools... but the 'zaan kit was only $14 shipped from CRK. The uniqueness of the StarTac handle design was worth the $29.95 extra - and included free s/h, too.

I compared the Sebbies for two years, off and on - only adding the new guy 'zaan to my consideration this year. I finally decided I had to have one - the ambidextrous deployment studs actually being a consideration - and I am RH-ed! Santa bringing me a Buck 172 Mayo TNT, between the small & large Sebbie in size, satiated my needs for a Sebbie... but the big 'working knife' still called to me. I celebrated my first SS retirement check by buying my most expensive knife - that StarTac 'zaan - and don't regret it for an instant - my finest folder.

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I considered the recent StarTac Small Sebenza - tried several 'dress up' small Sebbies locally - just not to my desires. A large StarTac Sebbie? Maybe. It'll have a long way to go to be as popular as my 'zaan is here. It's fit, finish, & function is perfect - love the ergonomics. I normally dissect everyything - but I haven't even adjusted that pivot screw - it's fine as-is. Oh - I did remove the clip, as I do to all of my so-equipped folders. I carry in-my-pocket knives. Yeah, they eventually grow character, but that's just me - to each their own.

Stainz
 
Stainz said:
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thanks a lot for your review! that's what im talking about!

i have mostly mid size folders (spyderco manix 2/paramilitary being the 2 that i carry the most) and i really wanted the Large Sebenza for a larger, heavy duty folder, but i bet the Umnum will fit the bill just fine.

After seeing the micarta inlay sebenzas, they also have caught my attention, as well as the damascus blades.
 
I love my Umnumzaan. I love the improved locking system and overall increased simplicity of the design. I carry mine more then my Sebenza's, though I'm switching to a Mnandi for office carry.
 
Josh K said:
the improved locking system
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oddly, i just learned about this when i was watching a youtube video this morning. seems nice.

but waiting for this to arrive in the mail is going to be painful!!! i think THIS is the knife iv'e been the most excited to get than i ever have before.
 
Zaan is in my pocket at least 75% of the time. I also carry a Brian Tighe Nirk Tighe, a ZT 0301, and a BM 755. I like the Zaan when it comes to precision and just all around ergos. For me it fits my hand well, the jiimping on the blade is good enough to catch your thumb yet not slip or be sharp. The perforated Phosphor bronze washers make for an easy to clean and lube and keeps the grease in the washers. The weight and balance of the knife is excellent too. Sharp as the dickens and the blade angle and shape allows for fine tip work and yet good slicing and chopping. Definitely one of my favorites for all around utility and edc. I will probably pick up a sebenza in the future but for all practical purposes, the umnumzaan wont let you down.
 
Josh K said:
I love my Umnumzaan. I love the improved locking system and overall increased simplicity of the design. I carry mine more then my Sebenza's, though I'm switching to a Mnandi for office carry.
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I think the locking system is different, and a bit smoother, but not improved.. I have seen more people having problem with the lock on the zaan then the sebenza... But who knows... I am no expert.
 
Incahiker said:
I think the locking system is different, and a bit smoother, but not improved.. I have seen more people having problem with the lock on the zaan then the sebenza... But who knows... I am no expert.
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I think that long term any CRK knife will last just about forever, however the Umnumzaan I have is completely smooth, utterly simple (dedent and lock interface in one), and very secure. It also never sticks. I don't mind a slightly sticky lock on my Sebenza's, but if I prefer them to not stick.
 
well, it looks like im not going to be getting the Umnumzaan after all......

a very observant member here on the forum PM'ed me and asked who i had traded with for my knife after reading this thread. come to find out, we had the same guy "make a deal" with both of us with no intention of sending the knife. i really hope he gets his $500 william henry returned before it gets delivered to this douchebag.

back to the scavenging the trade forums.....
 
What.... did you put his name up on the good bad and the ugly? If so post a link.. I wanna see..
 
it was actually on another forum, but his name is "ryano" and lives in SC.

i cant believe how fortunate i am that he contacted me out of the blue and saved me a $400 mistake.
 
I have always got the impression that the zaan point was thicker or should i say stronger, has anyone got a comparison pic of the two ?
 
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kadinh said:
it was actually on another forum, but his name is "ryano" and lives in SC.

i cant believe how fortunate i am that he contacted me out of the blue and saved me a $400 mistake.
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Whhhhoooooa, are you lucky. :eek: Yeow. Buy a lottery ticket tonight while your luck is still strong??? :)
 
JNewell said:
Whhhhoooooa, are you lucky. :eek: Yeow. Buy a lottery ticket tonight while your luck is still strong??? :)
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tell me about it!!! i could have been down a Fox River and TK3...for nothing! i sure am glad he decided to contact me.


but MAN am I bummed out! :(
 
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I have always got the impression that the zaan point was thicker or should i say stronger, has anyone got a comparison pic of the two ?
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Zaans tip is a swedge and is much thinner then the sebenzas, especially the regular sebenza.
 
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Is Ryano the guy who has the Umnunzaan or the guy who contacted you?
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who supposedly had the Umnumzaan. im still waiting for his reply to see if this is just a misunderstanding, but i doubt it.

the user who contacted me said ryano told HIM that he would send the Umnum in trade for his William Henry. "blue" sent the WH and was waiting for ryano to send the tracking # for the Umnum that he "sent out already"


UPDATE - another user, so far the 3rd, has come forward saying he sent our buddy ryano a knife also and hasnt heard anything back from him since providing him the tracking #....doesnt look good for ryan-hoe

Update 2 - and his info has been sent to the SC sheriff dept, to a member of the forums! this is getting good...
 
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The Zaan is amazing... my favorite knife I have, if you still want one shoot me a PM. My lack on funds is forcing me to get rid of it for the time being :(
 
kadinh said:
who supposedly had the Umnumzaan. im still waiting for his reply to see if this is just a misunderstanding, but i doubt it.

the user who contacted me said ryano told HIM that he would send the Umnum in trade for his William Henry. "blue" sent the WH and was waiting for ryano to send the tracking # for the Umnum that he "sent out already"


UPDATE - another user, so far the 3rd, has come forward saying he sent our buddy ryano a knife also and hasnt heard anything back from him since providing him the tracking #....doesnt look good for ryan-hoe

Update 2 - and his info has been sent to the SC sheriff dept, to a member of the forums! this is getting good...
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Man... did you see any feedback from him before you initiated the trade? I won't trade with someone that has no feed back unless they send the knife first... there is no way he could have had good feedback unless he just up and decided to steal knives one day.. guess it could happen.
 
Incahiker said:
Zaans tip is a swedge and is much thinner then the sebenzas, especially the regular sebenza.
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I have to disagree here, the Umnumzaan is thicker then the 21 model, and a touch thinner then the Regular model. The tip shape is different as well, but it's no where near fragile. Look at the thread where the guy bent the tip and managed to bend it back straight.
 
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