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If we can respect others choice of food for the body, we only need to remember that beliefs are only food for the mind / soul, and that applies too.. respect others their choice of food for mind (at peace while holding/using knife brand X type Y, etc.)

Just my .02;)
 
rollin eyes....GET USED TO THINGS THAT HAPPEN ON THE NET PEOPLE. Sometimes there are wars and personal attacks....yawn...
 
...that if you put this many people/personalities together in one place you're bound to have some jacklegs! I'd know, I'm one of them!

Professor.
 
I would much rather know what people really think than have some faux 'community' crap that you find on a few other forums....what's the point of promoting circular chat where everyone agrees with each other and all say basically the same thing? You just end up with bunch of locked threads and admontions if any discussions become even slightly heated. Maybe some like being treated like children, but just like in the real world, people don't always get along, and it would be quite boring if they did.
Go visit some other forums that disallow any heated discussions and see how inane and boring they are, and then come back here and you will hopefully appreciate the difference.

If you can't take a bit of heat even on the internet, I really can't understand how you manage in the real world, day to day.

I don't have an internet persona or some such that I put on when I post here or anywhere else. Anything I would say on the internet, I would gladly say directly to you were I to meet you face to face. I measure everyone with the same yardstick, I do not in any way hold anyone to a higher standard than I hold myself, and I expect the same from others.

So, if a thread bothers you, or you are not enjoying reading it, well for god's sake don't read it...it's really that simple.
The earth won't tilt on it's axis if you refrain from reading something here, that's for sure.
 
Mikemck, I think we are talking about decorum, not about disagreeing.

For example, I always read your posts. I agree probably 75% of the time. I enjoy formites like that because I learn new stuff and I admire people who are not afraid to take a position. I am buying a knife from a new vendor because I read your stuff.

However, I think there is a world of difference between, "I don't like Benchmades," and "I don't like Benchmades and anyone who does has his head up his @$$."

Further, I think after eight years of buying upscale knives and sharpening, and thirty years of buying firearms and reloading I have some insight. When I see a flame or when one forumite insults another, I don't post. (And I tend to avoid the guy who appears immature.) That's a loss to the forum.

See? I disagreed with you, but I'll bet you don't hate me.
 
I wonder why it is that some people just can't seem to disagree with someone else without turning the whole darn thing into something personal and doing it in an incredibly ignorant manner. There is no need to interject snide, childish insults into a debate on knives, makers, manufacturers, locks or any one of dozens of other topics that seem to bring the worst out in some people.

Heated debate is great as long as it is being carried out in an intelligent way. Disagreement can produce some of the most interesting threads. It is when they break down into infantile name calling and posturing that I start to laugh. People that get so heated up over anything that goes on on BladeForums that they have to resort to insults and threats, take themselves way to seriously.

There are those that seem to add nothing of value with any post that they make. These people seem to wonder around the forum adding comments intended just to piss other people off and they never put forward anything that furthers the discussion. As far as I am concerned these people are just out trolling, looking to get a fight started. The comments they make aren't worth the time it takes to read them. That being said, I find that the good things I get out of BladeForums make anything these pathetic creatures have to say seem unimportant.
 
Originally posted by Ichabod Poser
Mikemck, I think we are talking about decorum, not about disagreeing.


Yes, you are correct, and thanks for pointing that out.
I find your posts to be reasonable and intelligent, and I really enjoy your posts as well.

However, I must admit that sometimes a topic or opinion is just so ignorant or odious, that I find it necessary to leave no doubt at all how I feel about it.

A recent example was a thread dealing with the freedoms I have, a cavalier attitude towards useless profiling of a particular ethnic group, and a willingness to let the government basically do whatever it takes to give people a false sense of security.

Yeah, I made my opinion of such peolple perfectly clear as I did not want any doubt about how I felt about such people, and I don't regret it in the least.

That being the case, I don't presume to try to judge others over what they get upset about either, because it happens to everyone sooner or later.

Agreeing with someone and expecting them to agree with you in turn is what you find on some forums, because everyone is so busy trying to fit in and be part of the group that you get this herd mentality, and anyone who does not agree must be a troll....What's the point of that crap?
If you can't handle a different point of view, you have a real problem.
Further, what's the point of frequenting a forum where everyone agrees with you, because of how many posts you have, or because your part of the 'clique'? It's a common occurance, and I would really hate for that to happen here.

I don't gain or lose respect for someone based on what they say or don't say, for the most part, but rather on what their opinions and beliefs are based upon.
If your opinion or belief is logical and intelligent, how you express it does not change that, it just makes it a bit more or less unappetizing.
 
Mikemck,

I agree with you on the "community" aspect. I would rather hear an opposing viewpoint, but a well thought out one, not just "I'm a knifemaker and you don't matter" b.s. Those knifemakers don't matter to me, either.

I guess the whole point for me, is that when dealing in the real world v.s. the internet, if someone was stupid enough to call me a f*****g idiot in person, he OR she will be eating their teeth in half a second. That can't be done on the internet. It's easy to be an armchair hero when you are typing. Plus, it just brings the forum down to the lowest common denominator, when most of us are here to learn something.

That being said, alternate viewpoints don't bother me, it's the 6th grade immaturity....
 
You wrote: "It's the 6th grade immaturity..."

I take exception to that. I read and write at at least an 8th grade level, maybe even higher, and i resent the 6th grade label, both its implications and aspersions on my character which you have thoughtlessly cast. :D

I am, of course, kidding. (I read at a 9th grade level, not 8th grade, why just yesterday i got a gold star sticker on my paper on the Washington Monument.) ;)
 
Originally posted by Megalobyte
I read and write at at least an 8th grade level, maybe even higher

With a username like Megalobyte, heck, I'll give you college credit!!!! :D
 
Swede79, what happened to make you dislike knifemakers?
Did you run into an arrogant one?
Not trying to start trouble, just curious.
BTW, I don't like some knifemakers either.:D
 
Hi Mike,

I am sorry if I came across that way, that was not my intention.

I sent you an email to avoid fanning any more flames myself.... :D
 
If anyone needs a breath of fresh air, come on over to the Busse and/or Himalayan Imports forums...nice folks :)
 
Mikemck, I never take your posts as being the type that I called trolling. You have always told it like you saw it. In the thread you mentioned I was left with no doubt about how you felt. Your comments showed how much you value your rights and freedom and I didn't disagree with anything you wrote, even though I thought the last post you made was stronger than it had to be, I can't even say that I disagree with what you wrote in that post.
 
I am a relatively new member, and a few weeks ago I posted a reply on a thread and unfortunately "bumped" into hostility and argessiveness because my opinion was misunderstood by someone. So I posted another explaining that he/she misunderstood my view and explained what I had meant, in simplier terms. And what I expected in response is not at all what I got. A few more joined in, and the replies made me feel very horrible. The angier spilling our of these people seemed to leap out of the computer and blast me in the face. So I never replied anymore to it and because of these people I am afraid of posting anything now and haven't but a few since.
 
Lady Colt, I'm sorry you had a bad experience and I would encourage you to come back and get to know some of the other forumites. As a kid, we used to say "cheaters prove" whenever an issue could not be resolved.

I've found in life, in hobbies, in business and around cars and motorcycles that it's the empty box-cars that rattle the most. Your experience with cutting implements is valid, just as valid as the most diehard SD fanatic; it's based on the events which truly happened in yoyr life. But keep an open mind to a diverse opinion.

Here's a light hearted example. Before I became a Christian, I used to sit in saloons with other gear-head derelicts. Some young kid came into the bar bragging about the speed he had just attained on the highway. "I must have hit 130."

A more knowledgible biker quietly said, "Yeah, I had a speedometer like that once."

Ignore the background noise and welcome back.
 
Lady Colt,
On any on-line community you will find a wide range of characters. You'll have the whiners, trolls, keyboard commandos, and others who just don't play well with others. Sometimes you even cross paths with someone who talks sense.:) Don't let the idiots get to you. just add them to your ignore list.

Paul
 
yer all jerks :p :p :p :p :p

Sometimes it's like kicking an anthill- everybody & everything spills out at once. I too would appreciate a more decorus exchange of ideas here, or at least a baseline of civility- but passions sometimes overrule our ability to react reasonably. People here are passionate about knives & some folks just like to stir the pot. It would be great if everyone could focus on the issue at hand & keep personalities out of it. I'm guilty too. It would also be nice if every day someone would hand me a big bag full of money, scratch my belly & put me down for a nice nap.. Ain't none one of it gonna happen, so let's just roll w/ it & try to behave.
 
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